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General Discussion / Re: Spec Chart for Major Cryptos
« on: January 20, 2015, 12:34:17 pm »
Hello people,

As promised, an updated chart.

I've also put it on our Reddit with an explanation why it's updated.

Tweet will go out soon.

Please point out any glaring mistakes. There are a few areas where things are debatable, because definitions of some features differ across projects. If we can come to consensus on definitions, that helps, otherwise, we should probably put that in somewhere to at least make clear we're not dealing with comparable entities.

So, here it is: http://i.cubeupload.com/J02n9J.jpg

I won't clog up the thread with a big pic ;)

Not bad, but BitShares does have "profit sharing/dividends".  It does profit sharing in the form of burning of transaction fees and fees for user issued assets, fees for delegate registration and there may be some other fees I'm not aware of.  These fees are all burned and  reduce the supply of BTS which equates to profit sharing as these are DAC income streams and benefit everyone in proportion to their stake.

Marketplace and smartcontracts are AFAIK in the works.

I thought multisig was already up and runnng?  Not sure.

What is "account control"?

Thanks for doing the modifications.

Account Control is what it says on the tin: an advance feature set for accounts: http://www.thenxtwiki.org/wiki/Account_Control
These features are phased in one at a time, not as one large block. For instance, our next release will include phased transactions. Broadly speaking, Phasing is a two stage transaction that isn’t processed until a second condition is met.

There are a few areas where specific platform have unique features. Nxt for instance has Transparent Forging, and I am sure BTS has things that aren't present in any other platform, too.
It would be a pity to leave those out. Maybe a "doesn't apply" icon is a good way to handle those?

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General Discussion / Re: Spec Chart for Major Cryptos
« on: January 18, 2015, 09:49:48 pm »
Multisig is close to been release but not yet on the main net .. so the infogfx might get outdated pretty soon :)

That's the reason that I asked them to keep updating this chart for at least three months.
I expect this chart to be constantly outdated, which is a nice testament to the pace of development we're all going through :)

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General Discussion / Re: Guys can we stop shitting on nubits
« on: January 18, 2015, 05:48:43 pm »
PS because of nice guys like him we never should shut our mouths when we recognize big risks on other projects...

Never!

I've been known to go head to head with our devs and members myself if I consider something a bad idea.
Pointing out flaws and asking questions is important.
Of course it's not nice to hear someone pointing out something you hadn't considered. Needs to be done, sometimes, though.

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General Discussion / Re: Spec Chart for Major Cryptos
« on: January 18, 2015, 05:38:42 pm »
Hello people,

As promised, an updated chart.

I've also put it on our Reddit with an explanation why it's updated.

Tweet will go out soon.

Please point out any glaring mistakes. There are a few areas where things are debatable, because definitions of some features differ across projects. If we can come to consensus on definitions, that helps, otherwise, we should probably put that in somewhere to at least make clear we're not dealing with comparable entities.

So, here it is: http://i.cubeupload.com/J02n9J.jpg

I won't clog up the thread with a big pic ;)

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General Discussion / Re: Guys can we stop shitting on nubits
« on: January 17, 2015, 11:19:42 am »
One of the problems is that the people who like to shout (in ány community) shout very loudly, up to the point where communities look like they are made up of a group of shouting baboons at time.

Please don't try to dress it up. I have visited Nxtforums back when I was interested, and I saw members, including higher ranking ones supporting and backslapping each other over CoolSchool's antics. I didn't see any of your non-baboons say anything to the contrary.

Before here I was with Worldcoin (was one of the interim committee members) because of the vibrant community. Here I was drawn to BM's vision and philosophy. Maybe you'll think that me souring over NXT for the community was a stupid move for any investor, but I like to be involved in projects which are positive.

Indeed, we dó have a good laugh when 2kool posts. Mostly because of the outrageous way he puts criticism over the top. I myself rather enjoy that, especially because it's so utterly way over the top that it's hard to take with anything else than a pinch of salt. We also remove posts that go way over the top to our trash part of the forums. However, usually we don't, not even if they are critical of Nxt.

We have a few trolls on both BCT and Twitter who do exactly the same about Nxt. Most of óur people also go up in flames when that happens. I've never really understood that reaction. What do they think is going to happen? That they are going to convince someone who took the time to craft such outrageous posts? Seems rather unlikely.

I see both the good and the bad in our community. My own experience obviously is more positive than negative, otherwise I wouldn't be around anymore. For you, the balance tips the other way. And that's fine.

As to posting criticisms to our respective projects by going to each other's forums: I see that as an exercise in futility. That's like going onto a building site where people are hard at work, pointing to the artists rendition of the project and shouting "Your building sucks!". At that point it would be better to run, and with good reason.

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General Discussion / Re: Guys can we stop shitting on nubits
« on: January 17, 2015, 12:40:32 am »
To get a 1st-hand perspective of what our recent NuBits-bashing is like, go over to the Nxt forum and try to start a discussion on BitShares. The mindless tribalistic hatred you will experience is something we should be very careful not to dish out to our competitors.

Well-thought-out criticism is great, but whatever we do, we should never act like the Nxt folks.

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Sorry, but that's álso a generalisation :)
Some obviously do, and that's their problem.

Others (which is most probably the silent majority) are interested in both Nxt, Bitshares and a few others systems, too.

One of the problems is that the people who like to shout (in ány community) shout very loudly, up to the point where communities look like they are made up of a group of shouting baboons at time.

That happens on Bitcointalk, Nxt forum and no doubt you at times have the same.

I am admin on the Nxt forum, and no, I do not hate Bitshares. Neither do any of my colleagues. I may have my doubts about some things, but am open to being persuaded, like any sane person would be. I lurk here and also read along. It's only normal to do so.

"the Nxt folks" do not exist. Any community is diverse and will include nice and less nice people.


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General Discussion / Re: Spec Chart for Major Cryptos
« on: January 16, 2015, 09:46:25 pm »
Hello people,

I am the one who commissioned this chart, mainly because there wasn't anything like it around.

Believe it or not, I have clearly stated that the chart should be correct.

I will also make sure that it wíll get redistributed on twitter wíth corrections.

When the first versions were made, it was very clearly biased towards Nxt (larger logo, Nxt in the middle, facts kept out etc), something which I said I would not pay for as that's not the purpose of it.

Of course, because it's posted from the Nxt Forums and Nxt Twitter accounts, it's quite normal for people to think that it will be Nxt biased. Suspicion in the crypto world is rather wide-spread and in the FUD-rich scene we operate in, it's understandable.

I will take the gratuitous insults in this thread in that light then.

For the rest: judge by actions, please. The changes, once checked, will be made. I would like to ask that when made, you at least grant us that much.

Dan's article http://bytemaster.bitshares.org/article/2015/01/03/Cooperation-Amoung-Crypto-Projects/ suggests we not burn each other to the ground each time we encounter a perceived slight, and I agree with that. There're bigger fish to fry.

Hope that clears these things up somewhat and I hope you will keep us on our toes with this.

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General Discussion / Re: POS vs. DPOS
« on: July 25, 2014, 12:10:46 am »
For review, as I have noticed that this often gets overlooked, here is the link to the most current revision of our whitepaper, by the way: https://www.dropbox.com/s/cbuwrorf672c0yy/NxtWhitepaper_v122_rev4.pdf

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General Discussion / Re: POS vs. DPOS
« on: July 24, 2014, 11:48:03 pm »
Decided to register to thank you for crossposting this to our forums :)

Always good to have intercoin discussions!
Welcome Damelon!  I just made my first post to the NXT forum (I registered a couple months back), so + 1 for intercoin discussion!
https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/nxt-pos-vs-bitshares-dpos/msg70361/#msg70361

Yes, I saw your first post :)
I am excited by this intercoin discussion.
The Bitshares community also has always seemed very nice and welcoming to me, so I am happy to be here and share and learn.

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General Discussion / Re: POS vs. DPOS
« on: July 24, 2014, 10:28:07 pm »
Decided to register to thank you for crossposting this to our forums :)

Always good to have intercoin discussions!


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