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General Discussion / Re: Committee Fund Operation Review
« on: September 12, 2019, 07:21:10 am »
Why not let BBF pay the 2.5M BTS to committee-account, then the latter borrow 600K CNY with 8.27M BTS and margin call price=0.116 CNY(less than current GS price), and pay back to BBF?

I find this a good suggestion, joint effort and using community funds as collateral for community approved payments.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Draft][Worker Proposal] Global Marketing Board
« on: September 11, 2019, 05:57:35 pm »
FWIW there were some feedback in the Chinese thread: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=29600.0

I was hoping wonder88 would response to me in here, but instead he chooses to add the same in the Chinese post. I do not speak Chinese, and I do not trust automated translation services enough to do a good job for a back and forth conversation.

wonder88, I would very much like to discuss and iterate on all your concerns.

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General Discussion / [BBF] Obtaining necessary BitAssets for Worker payouts
« on: September 10, 2019, 01:39:00 pm »
Dear BitShares Community,

the BitShares Blockchain Foundation is always looking to obtain
bitCNY, bitUSD and bitEUR at reasonable rates for worker payouts. As a part of the larger
BitShares community considers obtaining those BitAssets in the decentralized markets
disruptive, we are now looking for other ways to obtain them and bridge the gap
between operational needs and the desire to sustain a certain price level and
liquidity in the BitShares DEX.

Hence, we offer peer-to-peer sales of BTS for bitCNY as a one time
trial. This is a step towards the community's concerns to reduce sell
pressure on the BitShares DEX. In the case that this is successful today
we will be exploring possibilities for more extensive use.

The requirements for participation in such a trade are:
 * Minimum batch size of 100,000 bitCNY
 * Up to 600,000 bitCNY
 * Sale/Trade at market price
 * Trades will be executed as a "barter proposal" on the BitShares
   blockchain (risk free for both parties)
 * The offer is limited until Sept. 11th 23:59:59 UTC

To get in contact, please send an email to `[email protected]`.

This message was redirected by me to the forums on behalf of the BitShares Blockchain Foundation. I personally do not speak for the BBF.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Draft][Worker Proposal] Global Marketing Board
« on: September 08, 2019, 01:25:59 pm »
Chinese version now completed
https://www.bitshares.foundation/workers/2019-09-global-marketing-board-cn

I believe "Global Marketing Board" as term should be replaced with "Global Management Board".

Global Management Board will submit workers for (Infrastructure, marketing etc...) that would be specific and in details when it comes to for example "Annual Marketing Plan" which will have a marketing plan and it's down budget.

"Global Management Board" budget must be segregated from "Annual Marketing Plan" budget.

"Global Management Board" must be OpEx.
"Annual Marketing Plan" must be CapEx and budget should consider the BTS value.

As for the budget, BTS holders have full control how much they want to create. Otherwise the ideas align.

Please move your envisioned management board advances to a new thread if you want to pursue it, I would consider this here as part of it for marketing focus.

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中文(Chinese) / [Draft] 市场营销:全球市场营销委员会
« on: September 07, 2019, 07:40:40 am »
亲爱的华人社区,

一项新提案已经出版。

主要线程在这里:https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=29599.0
中文翻译也可在网站上找到:https://www.bitshares.foundation/workers/2019-09-global-marketing-board-cn

任何和所有反馈表示赞赏!

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General Discussion / Re: AVG2907 dumping price massivly ?
« on: September 06, 2019, 08:21:00 pm »
avg moved BTS to poloniex again ...

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Draft][Worker Proposal] Global Marketing Board
« on: September 06, 2019, 07:50:34 pm »
Hello there wonder88,

my apologies for not giving more detailed updates here in the forum on the preceding marketing worker. We gave you comments to them in https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=27747.msg335192#msg335192.

Concerning this new worker proposal there is one comment / question fitting:
If you are the manager of any marketing or pr team, please tell me the truth whether this "marketing" achievement is good or not. Thanks.

Looking from the outside, I agree the marketing achievement of the previous worker seems insufficient (addressed in the post mentioned in the beginning of this text). I never claimed to be a marketing expert, I wrote the previous worker simply because no one else was doing any kind of advancement in the marketing front and I saw the need. I did several attempts to invite others to join the previous marketing worker, but there was either no interest, or lack of BitShares knowledge to conduct the task at hand. The intent of the previous marketing worker was also inclusive, inviting the community for collaboration. The new one takes it even a step further: We introduce a globally distributed marketing board as the decision makers and increase the budget, which now also allows to invite professional marketing companies for collaboration.

In that sense, the new worker is exactly addressing your concern. Expand and enhance the marketing team and put the budget at the complete mercy of the voters. It is not the intention that the marketing boards are exclusively the ones to execute marketing efforts.

To elaborate more on that, the intention is to provide a frame that will allow other marketing & PR experts (which are likely not so familiar or interested in the governance and politics necessary for a worker proposal) to have an easier way to get funding for their ideas, while the board can serve as the go to point of contact to address all questions and needs of said expert. After all, marketing experts are normally no experts on the topic / product that they are marketing, but they need to be able to ask the right questions and get spot-on answers.

really? how to write the general guideline of marketing if the people/entity even could not delivery those small "marketing" goals?

This was also in reference to the previous marketing worker, but concerns more this one. I am no marketing expert myself, but I believe I know where to go and what to ask to be able to write acceptable guidelines for it. Please note that this worker proposal is a draft and I am now publicly asking for feedback to refine the text.

Please let me know if you have further questions or concerns.

P.S. I saw that you were involved with, or at least reposted the interview that was conducted with Ryan. If so, and you have background in that area that we are not aware of, are you interested in contributing to marketing efforts?

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Here are questions regarding this worker from another thread (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=29599.0).

where are the interviews & articles? "The wikipedia article of the BitShares Blockchain https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=BitShares&redirect=no currently links to the personal website of Daniel Larimer. This needs to be reworked and filled with proper content." PLEASE CHECK IT, IT STILL LINKS TO DANIEL LARIMER! LOL....THANKS.

Articles reviewed / created through the old marketing worker can be found here: https://github.com/bitshares/marketing/tree/master/publications.

The wikipedia article is quite tedious. There have been 3 attempts to get an article up (even before the worker, OpenLedger put efforts there), unfortunately all have been rejected. It is rather difficult to find an author to do a complete revamp of the content, I had one that canceled due to the scope, and two others interested that I had to reject due to lack of BitShares knowledge. Ultimately I will start drafting it myself, but I wanted to avoid that.

There is another worker seeking to publish four articles from professional content writers, so I saw no reason to enforce publication of another article. Just two weeks ago there was a interesting topic being raised, with a promising lead on an author that would be a good match for this worker. An article on #defi (Decentralized Finance). Ongoing effort. I understand it feels slow and I could be more efficient.

Also where is the 8btc.com interview link?

The first interview was with Gokhshtein (published here https://github.com/bitshares/marketing/tree/master/publications), the featured version of it has been used at several conferences as printed handouts already. Shortly afterwards, interviews were conducted by other parties with Ryan (core team) and Magnus (UI team). I was not able to find a willing or suitable party to conduct another interview for 8btc since then, but I have to admit I have not looked actively in the last 6 weeks. So the 8btc interview is not done, but will be done if an opportunity arises.


 Please read the introduction of previous proposal "Marketing: Interviews, articles and visibility". If they do not have time/ability to delivery their "marketing" words on time, then find someone do it, please. DO NO WASTE ANY marketing fund again! The greatest talkers are always least doers. How can community trust those people/entities will delivery this proposal this time?


The proposal is explicitly inclusive towards the Community, the intention was never to do everything ourselves. This worker is also not done delivering.

Let me help you to read their bill/invoices carefully first. We had paid "3 Video Clips & Gokhshtein" for 59.22243k CNY. Have you heard any info about those videos or gokhshtein in our channels or social accounts?

The Gokhshtein interview was published in March, was advertised back then and has been used at several conferences already as a printout. It is a quite general introduction to BitShares and can easily be re-published and re-used for the next marketing push. The 3 Video clips that you mentioned are not published yet. The shooting is completed and we have a raw version of them. Our intention is to release them in anticipation of Decentralized conference with a social media campaign.

how about other goals from proposal? So that's call "We aim to change that by doing baby steps and are asking for funding to conduct interviews, craft articles and increase the general visibility and awareness of the BitShares Blockchain by fixing misinformation and deadlinks in common crypto-overview websites and centralized exchanges. (quote from proposal)", right?

The Visibility efforts are consolidated now in the marketing repository: https://github.com/bitshares/marketing/issues. Some could already be closed (Huobi for example), it takes surprisingly long time to iterate with CEXes and other informational websites to get content corrected. So this is also ongoing. Please note that nothing has been billed here so far.

If you are the manager of any marketing or pr team, please tell me the truth whether this "marketing" achievement is good or not. Thanks.

Can certainly be better. Would you be interested in joining any of those efforts? Also, please let me know if you have further questions or concerns.

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@Customminer

I'm sorry i can't get any useful information from your answer.

Every bts is free, no one force them.

Reserve pool funds shouldn't exsit for the program which have run for almost 6 years,the program should use its own income to feed the witness and worker,especially core and UI worker.

BTS has its own income, it's a DEX, this is its advantage, i don't want anyone forget it, not only focus the reserve pool.

I can agree with that sentiment. I would have suggested a transition phase though where fee schedule and other things can be adjusted for that.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Worker] Bitshares UI Worker Proposal for 2019
« on: September 05, 2019, 12:22:56 pm »
Dear BitShares community,

currently the BTS holders came to consensus for reducing spending in expectations for reducing BTS sell pressure.
Several workers are cut off mid progress, and for some hefty prepayments have already been made. The BitShares UI worker has been voted in and out for a while now, and with recent vote changes has been rendered completely inactive by this expectation. The budget was always tight and the worker is now out of funds.

As a consequence, the efforts being made for this worker by the BitShares UI team are halted, effective immediately. The upcoming release is put on hold as it cannot be finalized. We regret this step, yet it is a most unfortunately a necessary measure since we can't uphold the required integration testing and subsequent bugfixes.
Publishing the release without it, is out of the question as it does't not fit our quality assurance desires.

The upcoming release contains many improvements, new features and bugfixes. Here is a short overview:

 - Prediction Markets: Tailored user interface for prediction market assets that guide the user and show the underlying mechanisms that are not obvious for the everyday trader
 - Revamped Wallet Merchant Protocol: Tailored user interface that allows the creation and processing of payment requests (e.g. invoices) via the blockchain
 - Open orders allow grouping per market and also include force settlements
 - Various improvements in the usability of Bartering and HTLCs overview
 - User can specify an arbitrary asset that is then used to pay transaction fees, and also gets notified if not enough funds are available in fee pool or user balance
 - Usability of Asset overview page is improved
 - Final preparations for inclusions of Beet for "offline" signing
 - Bugfixes to the Deposit and Withdraw modal to ensure all gateways work seamlessly
 - Resorting, removal and addition of nodes to enhance connectivity
 - Reworked referral statistics to show a holistic overview for LTMs
 - and many more ... a full list of included issues can be https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui/projects/17.

If you like what we are doing and want our quality development to continue, please voice yourself in the comments, and consider the BitShares UI worker in your next voting update:

          Proposal ID    Proposal Name
          1.14.165    201902-bitshares-ui

You can vote for the BitShares UI worker as follows:
  • Reference UI https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/voting: Select Workers > Find the worker in the Proposed section > Toggle to vote for it > Save
  • MagicWallet: Enter Wallet Page > Vote > Find the worker > Confirm
  • BTS++ Wallet: Select Services in the bottom row > Voting > Select Workers in the top row > Find worker and Submit

Best regards,
  BitShares UI Team

为UI团队翻译下,如有翻译不对的地方还请指正^^

亲爱的BitShares社区,

目前,有些BTS持有人达成共识,希望在减少支出,以减少BTS的出售压力。

有几个工人在项目进行中途被中断,并且有些工人已经预支付了一些大笔预付款。 BitShares UI工人在最近被投进和投出去了一段时间,在最近的投票更改中由于这种情况ui工人已经完全失效。 预算在之前就已经非常紧张了,ui工人现在已经完全没有资金支持了。

因此,BitShares UI团队为此工人所做的一切努力都将立即停止。由于目前无法确定这种情况会如何发展,所以即将发布的版本将被搁置。我们对这样的情况感到遗憾,这一阶段是非常重要的阶段,因为目前我们无法继续做所需的集成测试以及后续的bug修复。

在没有这些的情况下是不可能发布新版本的,因为它不符合我们的质量保证要求。

即将发布的版本包含许多改进,新功能和错误修正。以下一段简短的概述:
- 预测市场:为预测市场资产量身定制的用户界面,指导用户并显示对日常交易者不明显的潜在机制。
- 经过改造的电子钱包商家协议:量身定制的用户界面,允许通过区块链创建和处理付款请求(例如发票)
- 开放性订单允许在每个市场进行分组,以及包括强制清算
- 对于Bartering和HTLC概述可用性的各种改进
- 用户可以指定随后用于支付交易费用的任意资产,如果费用池或用户余额中没有足够的资金,也将会收到通知
- 改进了资产概述页面的可用性
- 为“离线”签名的帮助功能做最后的准备工作
- 存款和提款模式的bug修复,以确保所有网关无缝工作
- 利用、删除和添加节点来增强连接性
- 重新设计的推荐统计数据,以显示LTM的整体概述
- 以及更多...包含所有问题问题的完整列表。
https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui/projects/17

如果您支持我们正在做的事情并希望我们有质量的开发能够继续下去,请在评论中表达自己的意见,并在下次投票更新中考虑BitShares UI 工人

         提案 ID    提案名称
          1.14.165    201902-bitshares-ui


您可以按如下方式为BitShares UI 工人投票:
  • 参考用户界面https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/voting:选择预算项目>在提议部分找到预算项目>切换为投票>保存
  • MagicWallet:进入电子钱包页面>投票>查找预算项目>确认
  • BTS ++电子钱包:选择最后一行的“服务”>“投票”>“选择顶部一行中的预算项目”>“查找预算项目”和“提交”

致以友好的问候,
BitShares UI团队

Thanks a lot Luke, posted in Chinese forum now.
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=29595.0

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中文(Chinese) / 来自BitShares UI团队的更新
« on: September 05, 2019, 12:21:35 pm »
亲爱的BitShares社区,

目前,有些BTS持有人达成共识,希望在减少支出,以减少BTS的出售压力。

有几个工人在项目进行中途被中断,并且有些工人已经预支付了一些大笔预付款。 BitShares UI工人在最近被投进和投出去了一段时间,在最近的投票更改中由于这种情况ui工人已经完全失效。 预算在之前就已经非常紧张了,ui工人现在已经完全没有资金支持了。

因此,BitShares UI团队为此工人所做的一切努力都将立即停止。由于目前无法确定这种情况会如何发展,所以即将发布的版本将被搁置。我们对这样的情况感到遗憾,这一阶段是非常重要的阶段,因为目前我们无法继续做所需的集成测试以及后续的bug修复。

在没有这些的情况下是不可能发布新版本的,因为它不符合我们的质量保证要求。

即将发布的版本包含许多改进,新功能和错误修正。以下一段简短的概述:
- 预测市场:为预测市场资产量身定制的用户界面,指导用户并显示对日常交易者不明显的潜在机制。
- 经过改造的电子钱包商家协议:量身定制的用户界面,允许通过区块链创建和处理付款请求(例如发票)
- 开放性订单允许在每个市场进行分组,以及包括强制清算
- 对于Bartering和HTLC概述可用性的各种改进
- 用户可以指定随后用于支付交易费用的任意资产,如果费用池或用户余额中没有足够的资金,也将会收到通知
- 改进了资产概述页面的可用性
- 为“离线”签名的帮助功能做最后的准备工作
- 存款和提款模式的bug修复,以确保所有网关无缝工作
- 利用、删除和添加节点来增强连接性
- 重新设计的推荐统计数据,以显示LTM的整体概述
- 以及更多...包含所有问题问题的完整列表。
https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui/projects/17

如果您支持我们正在做的事情并希望我们有质量的开发能够继续下去,请在评论中表达自己的意见,并在下次投票更新中考虑BitShares UI 工人:

         提案 ID       提案名称
          1.14.165       201902-bitshares-ui


您可以按如下方式为BitShares UI 工人投票:
参考用户界面https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/voting:选择预算项目>在提议部分找到预算项目>切换为投票>保存
MagicWallet:进入电子钱包页面>投票>查找预算项目>确认
BTS ++电子钱包:选择最后一行的“服务”>“投票”>“选择顶部一行中的预算项目”>“查找预算项目”和“提交”

致以友好的问候,
BitShares UI团队


为UI团队翻译下,如有翻译不对的地方还请指正^^ by Lu1ke, original post https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=27785.msg335102#msg335102

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Worker] Bitshares UI Worker Proposal for 2019
« on: September 05, 2019, 09:08:27 am »
Do you know if the UI team plan to stick around whilst funding is stopped? I am worried that we will loose these talented devs.

At least one is in it as a source of income, so I expect that he won't stick around long. I also have to shift my focus to other projects now. We (BCP) have decided, very much intentionally, to not be operational on BitShares (in order to avoid creating another conflict of interest). This is biting us in the ass now, since there is no revenue stream to keep my UI contributions afloat.

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