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我只是猜测。。TOST和BM 想几年内加速DNS达到能商用的水平。
所以才搞45%,如果能商用,系统活水来源就主要不是依靠45%或者30%而是系统价值的提升了即使获得很少的手续费B,价值也很大。
但确实存在一个风险就是代理人竞争和宣传不充分,45%是拿到了。升级并没有同步进行。
3I宣传上,DNS完全可以让一些有远见的社会团体组织,公司,资本来参与。

比如大家觉得每个月几百美圆很贵,但对于一些看好此领域的,或者有空闲服务器的组织,愿意为将来来投入资源。
欢迎C回归产业
要想做产业,肯定得有公司进,不仅仅是几个大炒户的游戏!应该是很多家公司进入这个行业,如视窗当年构筑市场一样!500刀只是让公司注目的吸引标签,如果早实现了,而且能稳步不被当画饼DAC,估计3I已经开始引领产业发展了.也许只是我想的太好了太容易了,现实是残酷的,风险,竞争...引领也不是咋说了算的

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General Discussion / Re: Keyhotee Founders Claim your BTSX
« on: August 05, 2014, 04:24:32 am »
Is there a big backlog of e-mails to Stan to claim BTSX?

I expect to have to process several hundred emails in the next few days.

Unbelievably, I am now caught up!   

Yes!  I have paid out all Keyhotee Founder BTSX that have claimed them via [email protected]  (If you have requested them some other way, I have probably missed them during my week in the Caribbean shark tank.)

So, at the risk of burying myself in claims once again,
I hereby bump this thread.

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Note to Keyhotee Founders

If you have been having trouble importing your Keyhotee Founder ID it is probably for this reason:

BTSX is not Keyhotee.  For security reasons, it has its own, more stringent rules for what constitutes a legal name:  <ISO Basic Latin Alphabet, only lowercase alphanumeric characters, dots, and dashes. Must start with a letter and cannot end with a dash.>   Think of them as far more flexible than a bank account number but constrained to facilitate accuracy and avoid name confusion and collisions.

So we tried to give an extra benefit to our Founders by including them in more than just the genesis block of Keyhotee.  We added them to BTSX too.

But some names just won’t work in BTSX.

Of the names that would work, many had never been registered during the long Keyhotee registration process.

So we did what we could and included all the legal <name-public id> pairs we had.

Since so many Founders did not register (probably because of early Keyhotee instability) we decided to award Founders their BTSX shares manually.

If you did register with Keyhotee, then you can use it to dump your private key.   Copy it and paste the private key (wif_key) into your BTXS console with wallet_import_private_key <wif_key> , and it should find your Keyhotee ID in the BTSX genesis block and give you access to it as a new account.

If, your Keyhotee ID wasn’t legal under BTSX we’ll let you change it to one that you were able to register instead.  That's where your promotional BTSX will be sent. There is currently no deadline for claiming them, but eventually we will have to figure out what to do with any unclaimed BTSX that remain in our trust.

Just email [email protected] with your original Keyhotee ID and proof that you own it (either the "Founder ID" address from which you donated, or the email address you used when you signed up) and give us the working BTSX name to which you want us to send it.  That name will become your Keyhotee ID.

Meanwhile, Toast is working on a much better namespace solution that will become the common standard for all our future DACs and Keyhotee.  Check his recent posts on the subject.

Does that mean funder who used internation characters as account should change their ID in btsx ?
And I would like to known If they  can hold old ID by using internation characters in other DAC and keyhotee , or just keyhotee,or none?

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KeyID / Re: Alternate Allocation Proposal
« on: August 05, 2014, 03:47:59 am »
Better

I prefer
25% AGS
25% PTS
5% MYSTERY sharedrop
5% dev preallocation  -  split among 4 or 5 trusted organizations (i3, das, dacsun, bitsuperlab, maybe more)
40% delegates(not more than 21% in first year)

or
21% AGS
21% PTS
5% MYSTERY sharedrop
7% dev preallocation  -  split among 4 or 5 trusted organizations (i3, das, dacsun, bitsuperlab, maybe more)
46% delegates and others ?(not more than 21% in first year - just delegates, Or if big companny getting in with  pledging large amount of assets in in DAC and sharesholders may more than 17% but not more than 29~33% in first year)

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General Discussion / Re: 8/21 DUAL SNAPSHOT
« on: August 05, 2014, 03:33:08 am »
Great news. Needing more news.

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不知道这次天朝要如何对付这个DNS,长城防火墙将全面架空


长城无用,全面封网封IP,应付这太容易了。谷歌现在就是这结果,过滤难起效,后面你懂的

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Probability of missing block is too high now, 3i should improve this. I think the Probability of missing block should be lower than 1/1000000. Or missing less than one block for 50 years will be better for application in industries.

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不论是怎么样,原始投资人要能大赚,市场人员看了有大希望,服务代表也能赚,而且不能开始都把股份散完了,要不后面谁来发展,都当自己是山寨币玩一把走人?总之整体公平不会变成就那么几个人玩的东西,能经得起市场考验才是好DAC的方案。待市场考验吧。特别是3I不要老是变来变去,应该好好讨论,3i,社区等共同完成一个真正符合大家利益并且符合市场推广的方案,不要让外人不知道要怎么分,更不要让自己一起走来的人没有希望,外人一看funder ptser agser等都无法保障利益,新进来不是等亏?当然也不能让服务的代表不能赚,而且要形成代表能向市场推广的能力和机制才行否则就只是大家搭个好服务器几个在那儿自娱自乐,那还不如投钱给我我给你们搭个超算算了,几个爱怎么玩怎么玩去。
jianli

这里我个人有些同的看法; 变来变去是炒家角度的看法,而在创业人角度的看来,这是一直在改善,在完善,这是利好,无论什么系统都不是一开始就那么完美,要经过多次尝试,这本是原创,大部分功能以及模式都没有参考的标本;假如您是一位创业人,您想像下,感觉到某些功能有不足,难道您不想参与改善意见的讨论,不想看到改善?(还是那句话,初创事业,事在人为;成功的事业不是想当然它就是成功的。)

另,其实很多东西论坛里有讨论,只是大部分在英文区,但是社区各种角色的人都有,要满足所有人利益的确很难。

老兄举个例子:假如你加入我要建立一个银行集团,集团目标是做100点营业网点我发行100W股份,你购买了1W股份,现在我告诉你,你的1W股份变成0.1W股份,我总发行股份还是100W,而且我也不打算弄什么营业网点,我拿它来做风险投资了,按你说你是炒家对吧,你未来收益及风险与我没关系是吧? 不要开这种玩笑,大家都有判断力,留下来的都是经过了种种斗争的。对于3i取得的一些成果是值得肯定的(出块速度不是最快也是离最快不远了),但仍旧需要走很长的路(可靠性必须保障丢块等问题小于百万分之一,或者50,最少5年?内不丢一个块,这是实用必须保障的;时间尽快能再快;核心的跨链交易和可自定义DAC必须尽快实现),市场是残酷的不是几个人游戏而且也不是几个人随时想怎么改规则就怎么改的,改善不是随便改规则。DAC是新东西相对灵活,但是走不了市场最终还是失败,你不愿面对它也会摆在面前。以太方这种垃圾都能几天就能集到上万BTC可见市场。。。。BTS市场运作好了其实早就到500刀并具有潜力带动整个数字化财富冲向更高层次了,btsx500刀也会尽在咫尺的吧,不过现在这个时间被延迟了,竞争也被后面的竞争者加剧了,市场的推广的乏力使得这个概率下降了,但坚持下来的应该都还坚信会的吧...


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不论是怎么样,原始投资人要能大赚,市场人员看了有大希望,服务代表也能赚,而且不能开始都把股份散完了,要不后面谁来发展,都当自己是山寨币玩一把走人?总之整体公平不会变成就那么几个人玩的东西,能经得起市场考验才是好DAC的方案。待市场考验吧。特别是3I不要老是变来变去,应该好好讨论,3i,社区等共同完成一个真正符合大家利益并且符合市场推广的方案,不要让外人不知道要怎么分,更不要让自己一起走来的人没有希望,外人一看funder ptser agser等都无法保障利益,新进来不是等亏?当然也不能让服务的代表不能赚,而且要形成代表能向市场推广的能力和机制才行否则就只是大家搭个好服务器几个在那儿自娱自乐,那还不如投钱给我我给你们搭个超算算了,几个爱怎么玩怎么玩去。

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中文(Chinese) / Re: 如果我是大户,会怎么做!!!!!
« on: August 03, 2014, 08:07:08 am »
“如果我是大户,手里有较大的股份,为了保证我自己的利益最大化,我更愿意做的是联合其他几个大户,争取一定数量的代表,并且这些代表全部100%收益都留给自己,哪怕1%都不燃烧,就算有人给我投反对票被选掉了,我可以马上更换一个ID重新成为代表,那么最终的结果就是我控制的代表可以100%的收益给我自己,并且随着我手中的股份增多,我可以争夺更多的代表席位,我手中的股份会滚雪球式的放大。散户你永远没有发言权。假设散户或其他有贡献精神的人,都设置90%的燃烧率,那对我就更有利了。假设,我控制了10个代表,其他代表都是90%的燃烧,那么大家想想一年后的结果是什么:我10个代表获得了整体代表收益的50%,一年后,70%的45%中的10%的股份是我的,也就是我一年中获得3.15亿的股份,而此时市场的总股份是多少呢,是10+10+10+3.15+3.15=36.3,我此时的一年收益就是整体股份的10%,我又可以拿到更多的代表,继续设置为100%不燃烧。PTS、ags你们跟代表比起来,什么都不是。没有自己的代表,就别来玩DNS。”

玩到后面自己玩自己,没有可运作必要了,这肯定是作死的节奏吗。 DAC应该是充分市场化的,否则大户有那么多股份玩不了多久也就废了。

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现在就根本就不强大,而且可以说就没看到其使用好用的地方。用其它外人来看就是画大饼还要不多画点给投资人,谁还敢进来投资玩呢?无法保证后续市场健康运作这DAC就是自己玩自己,有所有股票有啥用,还把ptser/agser的钱贴进去干市场不认可的东西?

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中文(Chinese) / Re: blockchain explore(BitSuperLab出品)
« on: August 03, 2014, 07:58:41 am »
楼主程序牛人,赞一个。希望看到更多作品。 +5%

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中文(Chinese) / Re: DPOS出块速度太快的副作用
« on: August 03, 2014, 07:56:43 am »
而且现在丢块数量也很严重啊,这丢块率超过了千分之几,可能达百分之几了。如果想要真正工业级应用不达到百万分之几以下,怕是bitshare也根本就没能保障应用了。

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市场都没运作起来就把股份大把分给代表了那不成了自己一个人玩游戏了吗,还DAC,1AC吧。除非代表可以开拓市场,即使股东只有20%的情况下能首先兑现给股东获利后再说。否则就是玩不起来还要自己一个人拿着所有股份,其它人一看起始投资人都亏本进来不是自找的吗那还不如去投其它的先获利再说或者至少是小户看着自己也可能获利的东西再说,这不就把整个产业玩死成全NXT XRP甚至是后来的市场运作强者。

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这是是想代表或者3i独吞股份啊?不想让用户进来体验和使用了?不想要市场了 独自玩游戏呢!

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求点币测试
ADDR:XTS8Wdxdckikd2NUEAEWf28bXg31gLruUyM2u79bwmXyvi1Rk6ujp

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