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Important: There is nothing official about this post.  I have not spoken to anyone about it yet. Just an idea I would like to get feedback on.

The following is an idea to:
  • Increase bitshares revenues immediately.
  • Create an army of rabid fans that are paid to promote bitshares
  • Pay those fans from fees and not by dilution and only after they have created value for bitshares.
  • Eliminate the need to pay any marketing delegates through dilution.
  • Create massive incentives for organizations and companies to begin using bitassets with their employees, customers and partners,
  • Create massive incentives for people to run bitshares meetups.
  • Create a model for all bitshares chains to automate their marketing, and
  • Allow bitshares to be the only blockchain that pays its users directly through the blockchain for growing the user base.

The idea:
Allow bitshares fees to be shared with the person who introduced the user that paid the fees. Possibly allow the sharing of those fees for several generations or tiers.

Details (from someone who can’t code and has no idea if this is feasible)(All figures used are just place holders and should be thought out more):  The blockchain already records all registered users by recording a TITAN name for each user. What if it recorded 2 more pieces of information.
1.   The status of the account, and
2.   The TITAN name of the introducer/referrer.

An account may have one of 2 states. A non income earner state/status. This is the current status that we all know and love. Or An income earner status.  For a fee of 20bitUSD a user may upgrade to this status, which enables them to earn a share in the Fees paid by anyone they introduce for the next say 20 years. This includes the 20 bitUSD fees for upgrading status.

For a simple example lets say all fees are shared 20% to the bitshares network, 50% to first upline who is earner status and 30% to the next upline of earner status. When a user (John) makes a transaction, lets say he pays 20bitUSD for earner status here is what happens.
1.The Bitshares network takes 4bitUSD and converts it to bitshares and burns them. (Yay us, we are reversing our dilution or said another way we re creating income for the DAC)
2. John’s introducer is looked up. John’s introducer is Mary. Mary has not paid the 20bitUSD to become an income earner status and so the network looks for Mary’s introducer. Mary’s introducer is Jane and Jane has paid the 20 bitUSD fee and does have income earner Status.  She will receive 10bitUSD (50% of the 20).   
3.Hopefully you guys can figure out how the remaining 6bitUSD is distributed. If no one in Jane’s upline has paid the $20 then the network gets it and burns as above.

There are lots of different combinations of tiers/percentages/payouts that could take place.  That is for us to discuss later but the point is that we have achieved the worlds first self marketing DAC. No elections and No dilutions necessary. And only performers get paid. No guessing who will produce like the delegate model.

Consider some use cases.

1.   Anyone hosting a meetup now has a revenue model and an advertising budget to grow their meetup.
2.   Someone may be incentivized to hand out paper wallets loaded with several dollars on it. The QR code contains their TITAN referrer name and when someone scans the QR code to receive the funds the referrer is automatically populated.
3.   Brochure printers are incentivized to print and handout brochures with a referrer code on it.
4.   A factory owner in say China says to his workers…. From now on I am paying you all in bitCNY.  I have purchased a bitshres ATM and placed it in the lobby so everyone can redeem their pay for cash when ever they want. The factory owner makes money on the ATM spreads, and the fees generated by his employees for 20 years, but that that will take too long.  He holds a meeting for his employees and explains the Earner status option. His profits from the signups pay for the ATM in the first week and he now has an army of employees who are out introducing bitshares to local merchants so they can spend their wages their and so they can earn commissions.
5.   This will get the attention of every person in Crypto.
6.   Have a twitter list? Email list? Facebook friends?  Big pay day on your horizon.

One of the best things about this idea for me is people are incentivized to sit with someone, explain it to them, set them up with an account and be there first bridge. 
For example: I meet my friend for lunch. I tell them about this cool new money/payment network.  I show them the app.  I say here. Let me show you how easy it is.  I will send you 50 cents. We download the app together and set them up with a TITAN address. I want to be involved in this process so I can make sure I am the referrer. I say now you try it and send me 40 cents back. They try. They love it. I explain you can send any amount of money anywhere in their world and it is that fast and that simple.  They say Wow this is the Future. (this has happened to me 3 times since the light wallet has been live btw.)   I say, well you know you can make money with this thing, just by introducing people like I just did you.  Because I introduced you, I am going to get paid a fraction of a penny every time you use this app for the next 20 years.  With enough people it adds up real fast. In fact if you introduce people to this, I get paid on that as well. I have hundreds of people introducing this to other people for me right now… And I get paid on all of it. (Insert 5 minutes of questions of answers) My friend says I want to be an earner.  I say It is simple. It only costs $20. You give me the 20 now and I will pay your fee for you and you will be an earner. In fact give me another 20 and I will send you 20bitUSD so you have some funds to by stuff.  Plus I will show you to a few websites where you can purchase stuff with it or just hold it and earn interest what ever you like.

That is a powerful conversation.

MLM groups will be all over this like white on rice.  In fact I already know of one who would get behind it right now if it were built.

So community is it a good idea? Tech crew is it possible? An answer in the affirmative will not be seen as an endorsement.

Thoughts/feedback/criticisms welcome

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General Discussion / How about a bitshares leadership summer meet
« on: March 22, 2015, 03:24:05 am »
Hey everyone,

I think a meetup in the flesh with bitshares leadership, delegates, and entrepreneurs building on top of the protocol would be incredibly beneficial.

Knowing it will most likely be in the US, I will selfishly suggest sometime between June 15th and August 15th as that is when I will be in the US next.

Is there any interest in this?  Virginia meet be a good location to keep costs down for the most amount of people or something like Vegas could be fun enough to draw more people.   Is there any interest in this?   To get specific.... perhaps answer this question.

Would you attend a bitshares specific event that would span a Saturday and Sunday this summer if it were held in America?

Feedback welcome

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General Discussion / The web wallet is a must use sales tool.
« on: March 16, 2015, 11:34:24 pm »
I just spoke to a couple of non-crypto people.

Talked about bitshares for about an hour with not much to show except confusion.   
Then we went to https://wallet.bitshares.org/ and I asked them sign up for an account.

I sent them 50 cents each, and got them to send 25 cents to each other. The whole process was done in less than 5 minutes and light bulbs were going off all over the place.

The web wallet is a must use sales tool for non-crypto and is actually an easier sale than crypto people.  Crypto people struggle to get over the stable currency thing. Non-crypto people never think to ask. Futures contracts, derivative markets and delegates never get mentioned.

I cant wait to have a phone app without the delegate and markets tab to promote.

edit:  I should mention I have done this same process for bitcoin many times over the years and the difference is huge.  Bitcoin still left them confused because what is a bitcoin worth?  This is infintely more powerful. When they send 50 cents.... they get it.  No more question other than... Can we do it again?

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General Discussion / New Bitshares.tv episode.
« on: March 10, 2015, 11:46:22 am »
This video was presented at the Bitcoin virtual summit last week.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2yjrjw/bitcoins_killer_app_decentralized_bitpay_without/

Your support is appreciated.


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Technical Support / patch update. Is it real?
« on: March 02, 2015, 09:50:32 pm »
1. So I downloaded the latest bitshares client direct from github and as soon as I downloaded it and went to log in it said there was a patch I needed to download.  Is this a legit patch?  I would normally have trusted an internal client message but I was just playing with the webwallet and started to doubt it.

2. When I go to the faucet page in any browser, I do not see the buttons to register (eg: facebook, reddit, etc)  I have seen the problem before in Firefox and switching to chrome solved my problems.   Now I get the same problem in all browsers.

3. Do you have a link instructions on how to set up an offline paper wallet?

Thank you.

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General Discussion / BitShares 101 is now on youtube.. (mostly)
« on: February 28, 2015, 03:19:45 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqTbfbn7Vco&index=1&list=PLjgfpSQFJTLpKmTGCG8FjvDFbfst6F-x5

Feedback welcome.

Edit: I want to acknowledge and thank Edilliam for doing all of the editing on videos 1-3 for nothing more than the love of bitshares. I believe he intends to run a delegate as our video editor.  What Cass is to graphics, Edilliam would like to be for video editing.   You might want to send him some love next time you are speaking with him.

Unfortunately he was unable to dedicate the resources to finish off the project by the deadline, but hopefully he will soon and I can
1. Replace video 4 as the place holder,
2. Get a higher quality rendered version of the first 3 videos and,
3. Get the remainder of the videos up very soon.


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General Discussion / Bitcoin meme repurposed for bitshares please support
« on: February 16, 2015, 07:52:16 am »
Do you guys remember the popular bitcoin meme #bitcoinusersnotaffected

I thought I would repurpose it

Please join in the conversation on reddit comments and V0tes are cluctch

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2w22u7/7170_bitcoin_stolen_decentralized_bitcoin/



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I just answered this question on /r/bitcoin and I think its the shortest answer I have ever figured out how to deliver to answer it.  I thought I would share it. Feel free to use as you see fit.

Answer:
The easiest way to understand it is to consider the COMEX can have a wheat futures contract without having any wheat on hand. How do they do it?

Lets say I think the price of what will fall and I want to profit. I can sell wheat today, and then buy it later for cheaper and I can profit by selling high and buying low. But how can I sell that which I don't have? I can place $'s as collateral with the exchange. If I sell a bushel of wheat at $200, the purchaser now has an IOU from me that says I owe him 1 bushel of wheat in the future. If the price goes up and I have to buy a bushell for $250, then that $50 loss I made is taken from my collateral. Notice I both bought and sold wheat and yet there was no wheat... just $'s. In this case, it is said that the settlement instrument was $'s.

So what if rather than have a wheat futures contract settled in $'s. We had a dollar futures contract settled in cryptocurrency?

Instead of selling a bushel of wheat, I sell $1. I place cryptocurrency on an exchange as security for the buyer. Now in the future I owe the buyer $1 no matter the excahnge rate. Either the rate moved up an I made a profit, or the rate moved down and money was taken from my collateral and I made a loss. Either way, the buyer receives $1 in the future no matter the exchange rate.

Therefore the buyers fully securitized IOU for $1 is always worth $1. ie: it has a stable value. And it is always backed by collateral (the cryptocurrency held on the blockchain.) Hence the $1 IOU is fully securitized and has no counter party risk.

This is what bitshares has achieved.

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General Discussion / bitshares.tv #7 is now live
« on: January 22, 2015, 04:24:18 am »
Hey guys,

Episode 7 is now live.  Check it out here.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2tb034/thinking_of_crowd_funding_your_bitcoincrypto/

If you could comment and punish the trolls with down votes that would be great.   I have noticed if a thread gets momentum from trolls it stays that way.   If it gets momentum our way and trolls are down voted then they shut up pretty quickly to protect their own karma.

Enjoy.

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General Discussion / Any video editors here than can help out?
« on: January 16, 2015, 05:38:57 am »
I recorded all the video for bitshares 101 video series.  Anyone here who can help with green screen video editing to get this project finished quickly?   Please PM me.

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