Google has "don't be evil", which we all know is some Orwellian bs, but that's another story.

I went back to Rome for inspiration in finding one for Bitshares.  There was a saying that if you went against Rome, "it would put it's boot on your neck".  Since "kill you and take your money" is probably not a good idea for a slogan, I sought to emphasize one of the currently more underestimated features.  User issued assets will be much bigger than people expect.  For example, Individuals in stocks, such as Jim Cramer or Brian Kelly, probably do things like issue frontrunning newsletters.  They could issue a finite number of tokens via user issued assets and commoditize their newsletter to the highest bidder.  Even things like the Bilderberg group, instead of manually selecting people to join their kleptocracy, can issue tokens for the highest bidder to have a rolling, fully autonomos, aristocratic kleptocracy.  User issued assets can be used for almost anything, club membership being one of many.

Based on this, the best thing I could come up with for Bitshares is, "Bitshares:  Commoditize Everything".  If you just see the words "Bitshares" now, nobody knows what that means.  Nobody knows if it's a cryptocurrency product or some kind of Irish slang for "a bit of sharing".  Maybe a potato company that shares potatoes with you?  If you saw the words "Bitshares:  Commoditize Everything" on a card or T-shirt, you would immediately know it's a financial product.  It sounds like something you just want to toss money at with a shovel.

I like the commodizie everything slogan. The good about it is that you first have to think why Bitshares comoditizes everything.

Other suggestions
Bitshares: The transaction processing platform
Bitshares: comoditizing finance

Inspiration for creating mantras: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A2-7_nujtA

Quote from: delulo on September 15, 2015, 10:33:15 pm

Why would a super delegate vote for someone that acts not like itself?

Anonymous voting would likely be required so that junior delegates aren't forced to conform to the senior delegate.  In that instance, as I explained, worst case scenario you have the exact same political system as before, just with more redundancy, but more likely, you would also see an increase in distribution of power as well.  Another benefit, speaking about humans from a sociology standpoint, you don't want a king because the king could be a psychopath, so the more people you have sharing power, the more you hedge against irrational or destructive behavior in general.

You didn't factor this in:

Also there is not much of a continuum for a witness (new block producing role in bitshares 2.0) to act like. A witness can either be honest or not (aside from performance (uptime etc.))

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Quote from: xeroc on September 15, 2015, 06:23:41 pm

Are they going to use graphene tech? Any link to PlayDAC?

Does it use graphene? If it does and there is no share drop it effectively competes with PLAY who did a sharedrop. Why would we support it then...

Being that it is a UIA on bitshares, I'm assuming g it is using bitshares

I was referring to the technology they use to reaize their trustless online gambling service that has nothing to do on which platform you issue your IOU/donation token on...

It doesnt?  If the platform uses the UIA, then the ledger they are using would be bitshares (aka graphene).  If they are just doing a UIA to act as a stock type of token, I'd imagine it might be a different story.  But let's not assume the former is not possible as well

It will be a stock type token, that is bought back from holders.

the 2 Partners are myself, Mark Lyford (BANX), and Jan Thoelke (Former Race Car Driver)

So are there plans though to put the actual buying of a lotto ticket on the blockchain so that way shareholders can see how many were bought and the payouts etc?

Yes that is exactly the plan

I think the question we are all aksing ourselves here is how you will achieve that, which blockchain will you use and if you use an own / new chain will you use graphene?

Are they going to use graphene tech? Any link to PlayDAC?

Does it use graphene? If it does and there is no share drop it effectively competes with PLAY who did a sharedrop. Why would we support it then...

Have you developed a split forum personality, xeroc?

except that there are now 3!!!! prices per bitasset.

Unfortunatelly, I have no clue why you say there are three prices in price_feed ..  I only see settlement_price, and core_exchange_rate. The other two are 'constants'

lol one forum account isn't enough let's get another one that talks to me

because ethereum made some design decisions which are good for thin clients [...] In graphene you see some places where the opposite decision is made.

Isn't Graphene entirely built for thin clients?

 

while throughput and cost favor native contracts only by as much as compiled code is slightly faster than advanced VM tech like java

That sounds like a contract that is written with a scripting language on Bitshares (in case Bitshares had one and could interpret it), which is what I meant by virtualized (is there a more suitable term?), would consume maybe 10% (ballpark figure) more ressources resulting in 10% more cost and 10% less throughput. Doesn't this contradict what you said here https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3jvo9k/bitshares_says_it_will_be_able_to_complete_100000/
If that is the case why then BM's decision to go native? There must be other aspects to it?

And does "virtualized" have other benefits than the externalization of feature/application development and the competition of apps and maybe more flexilibity / individuality with respect to what a contract can do?

First of all correct me if I am wrong with my termninoloy "virtualized"...

I am asking myself what paramters are affected if you have virtualized vs. native smart smart contracts.

The three parameters I am looking at are: Blocktime, tx/sec (throuput), cost (in terms of tx fees paid in practice).

It would also be interesting to know why each of these paramters is diffent for the two types of systems.

That is pretty impressive! You have translated the complete bitshares/technology section