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Just as an example, if BitShares were to consider paying an entity to do some work for it, how should this work? It's not ideal to be offered just one proposal by the entity and to have the community simply vote 'yes' or 'no'. Wouldn't BitShares benefit from being able to negotiate and suggest alterations to the terms before submitting a proposal (or sets of options) for voting? I'm trying to imagine various ways in which BitShares may be able to negotiate and assemble proposals prior to the community voting on them. I see that this may become very difficult in the future as BitShares grows, unless we have a solid mechanism for implementing the process.

At the moment the community is very small and this forum, along with the hangouts, are obvious arenas for discussion. This makes it relatively easy to discuss various aspects and come up with solid proposals, around which we can reach agreement. In the future if BitShares really expands, the landscape could be much more diverse, with no real consensus on where we should come in order to properly discuss issues.

Obviously the blockchain will be capable of offering voting functionalities, so we can easily vote on proposals. My issue is though, how will the proposals be assembled? In real world business there can be much back and forth, tweaking, haggling, swapping in and out of various conditions etc. This is otherwise known as negotiation. This can be a complicated procedure which can end up with a handful of possible proposals which can then be voted on. Do we need the ability to negotiate so that we can come up with a select few viable options prior to voting?

Is there a nice, clean, efficient way to address this issue entirely on the blockchain? Or will we need to maintain some kind of commonly agreed communication method outside of the blockchain, so that we can effectively engage with one-another prior to putting up proposals for voting?

To put it another way, it's a bit like voting on the polls on this bitsharestalk forum. How many times have you thought, "I want to vote, but none of the options is quite right. I need to propose a tweak to the options before I can vote in good conscience". Surely we need to avoid this problem when it comes to voting on fundamental issues once BitShares 2.0 is up and running.

How is this going to work, especially when it comes to voting on things with many factors or variables?

Is what I'm describing a real issue, am I understanding it correctly, and have there been solutions already suggested?

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Random Discussion / TonyK is Movie-Plot Threat Contest Winner
« on: June 13, 2015, 08:22:04 pm »
See this from Bruce Schneier.

The contest was looking for a movie-plot threat which shows the evils of encryption.

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On May 14, I announced the five semifinalists. The votes are in, and the winner is TonyK:

November 6 2020, the morning of the presidential election. This will be the first election where votes can be cast from smart phones and laptops. A record turnout is expected.

There is much excitement as live results are being displayed all over the place. Twitter, television, apps and websites are all displaying the vote counts. It is a close race between the leading candidates until about 9 am when a third candidate starts to rapidly close the gap. He was an unknown independent that had suspected ties to multiple terrorist organizations. There was outrage when he got on to the ballot, but it had quickly died down when he put forth no campaign effort.

By 11 am the independent was predicted to win, and the software called it for him at 3:22 pm.

At 4 the CEO of the software maker was being interviewed on CNN. There were accusations of everything from bribery to bugs to hackers being responsible for the results. Demands were made for audits and recounts. Some were even asking for the data to be made publicly available. The CEO calmly explained that there could be no audit or recount. The system was encrypted end to end and all the votes were cryptographically anonymized.

The interviewer was stunned and sat there in silence. When he eventually spoke, he said "We just elected a terrorist as the President of the United States."

Given the subject matter (Follow My Vote in mind) I wonder if this could possibly be 'our' tonyk.

I've been wondering by the way, on this forum does the use of an ampersand, e.g. '@tonyk' actually notify the forum member?

(This post was an absolute pig to compose on my phone! Sorry if it's gone wrong somewhere!)

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Charlie Shrem wants to spend his time in prison thinking about the blueprints for creating a way to provide countries, or companies, or foundations, or nations, or states, or municipalities a turnkey solution to running cheap but free and fair elections using the blockchain.

Listen to this bit of "Let's Talk Bitcoin! #206 Reflections with Bitcoins' First Felon". It's less than two minutes - the link is at 19:22, listen up to 20:43...

Can we contact him to tell him about our solution?

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General Discussion / Can we use the low BTS price to our advantage?
« on: April 24, 2015, 09:06:51 pm »
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Many people don't like to feel that they've missed out. They wish they'd bought a cryptocurrency 'on the ground floor'.

When they feel like they've 'missed the boat', they ignore the boat or want it to sink.

Could or should we try to market BitShares by saying that people have a second chance to get in at the ground floor (because the price is so low)?

Perhaps this could be an opportunity to promote the creation of a wider distribution?


I believe the above is a poor train of thought, but I present it to you all nevertheless. :-\

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I saw this tweet from Bruce Schneier, which lead me to this article from the EFF.

"New South Wales Attacks Researchers Who Found Internet Voting Vulnerabilities"

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General Discussion / Are people really this ignorant of BitUSD?
« on: March 16, 2015, 08:59:40 pm »
Epicentre Bitcoin: EB65 – Adam Back & Greg Maxwell: Sidechains Unchained

Brian Fabian Crain says something like, "the idea of stable cryptocurrencies, it's very attractive but so far there are no implementations, although some people told me this nubits thing but I haven't looked into it"...

I know there are intricacies when it comes to the meaning of 'stable', but if nubits makes it onto people's radar, surely BitShares should!? It's so frustrating.

From 1h19m36s the subject went on to proof of stake. I'm not sure how DPOS fits in to what they were saying. Adam Back and Greg Maxwell seem to be of the opinion that there is no decently viable option around for proof of stake. Are they aware of DPOS I wonder?

They get some interesting people on the show/podcast. I was thinking of sending them some sort of message regarding BitShares.
Is there anyone here well placed to communicate with them? Or inclined to do so?

Their main sponsor seems to be ShapeShift, and they do a demo of ShapeShift during the episode. Maybe we could suggest they use BitUSD for something now that we're back on ShapeShift...

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Random Discussion / Old mice
« on: March 08, 2015, 06:15:21 pm »
Does anyone else miss the act of scraping gunk off the rollers on the inside of the old roller-ball mouse?
I guess some will never have used one?

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I've seen this in the MaidSafe forum.

I started this topic in general discussion...

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I saw this topic in the maidsafe forum. I think it's interesting enough to be a topic here in "General Discussion".

Essentially, it seems from David Irvine's comments that there's a possibility of their platform switching from C++ to Rust! Can you imagine what a kerfuffle it'd cause now if our very own bytemaster made similar comments on our forum?!

David Irvine is the main man at maidsafe, and he is 'dirvine' on the forum... have a read!

I've created this post, because I expect people here will see at least a couple of discussion points:
  • The fact that David Irvine has made such comments (it's relevant to where we were and where we're going)
  • Technical aspects - is Rust really THAT good? Is this something we should or could consider at any point?

I'm actually pretty interested in the second point, especially as I think the first has already been covered to an extent elsewhere.
Although I'm virtually clueless about programming languages (I've just started to learn Python), I'd like to hear from people in the know.

Also, feel free to tell me to learn something other than Python. :P

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General Discussion / What does Peter Todd mean in his tweet about P.O.W.?
« on: January 26, 2015, 07:40:09 pm »
He tweeted, "One thing proof-of-work does is to convert burned proof-of-stake to a form that can be validated with O(1) scaling".

I don't even understand the meaning of his sentence.
Does anyone care to enlighten me?

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General Discussion / People don't understand BitUSD peg
« on: November 27, 2014, 12:33:39 pm »
This problem may be worse than I thought!
It's understandable that newbies judge the peg by the price on centralised exchanges with low volume, like this https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=11036.0

But it's gotta be a problem when more experienced people think the same way. Talking about volatility, and the peg, Adam B Levine mentions that there's almost no volume on bter, and that the rate is 95 cents on the dollar. It was on Let's Talk Bitcoin! #164 - The Page and the Notes with the Peertracks guys at about 30:30 minutes in.

People need to realise that the price of BitAssets aren't significant when it's exceptionally low volumes of exchange. Where the proper volumes of exchange occur (currently on the BitShares exchange) are where the price is relevant.

If I saw someone on the street being given a dollar for free by another person, would it make sense for me to start announcing that the price of the dollar was unstable and had collapsed? (I'm not saying this is equivalent to Adam's comment).


Edit: to be clear, when I say, 'it's gotta be a problem when more experienced people think the same way', I'm not saying there's a problem with BitUSD or the peg. I'm saying it's gotta be a problem for BitShares that people are misunderstanding the situation. I.e. what can we do to educate people and help them to see sense. Perhaps this is an issue which marketing can help with? I'd like to see an episode on LTB to set the record straight on many issues relating to the perception of BitShares...

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Random Discussion / Ketogenic (Very Low Carbohydrate) Diet
« on: November 25, 2014, 08:44:23 pm »
Does anyone have any experience of a ketogenic diet?
It involves eating very low amounts of carbohydrate, and thereby putting your body into a state of ketogenesis. You utilize fat as a source of energy, rather than glucose.

I was largely ignorant and had been skeptical of this but am now changing my mind after hearing Steve Gibson (of "Security Now") talk about it.
He has a webpage here: https://www.grc.com/health/lowcarb.htm
and two podcasts here: https://www.grc.com/health/lowcarb-podcasts.htm

It supposedly has many potential health benefits, and I find it a fascinating topic. It's argued to be the most natural diet, in that it's the one for which we are optimally evolved as humans.
I'm at the point where I've decided to look into this properly, and probably try it out for myself.

Mr Gibson also seems to advocate supplementing with vitamin D (which is actually a steroid hormone): https://www.grc.com/health/vitamin-d.htm

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General Discussion / Fundraising mechanism
« on: November 15, 2014, 10:15:53 pm »
edit: this post is in reference to raising funds for normal, yet expensive tasks such as those ordinarily carried out by delegates within BTS. For example, an expensive advertising campaign...

Is it possible to create a semi-automated 'fundraising system' within the protocol, whereby users can give funds for a project and receive 'interest' if the project is successful?
Failing this, is it possible to do it in a more manual way using delegates, and requiring some trust?

Has anyone discussed ideas for fundraising above and beyond delegate pay? (My understanding is that delegate pay is limited by the amount of fees being payed in the system)
Is there a mechanism in place (or planned) for bringing in more money if it is deemed to be necessary or desirable?

What if someone comes up with a really good plan which the community wants to see implemented for the benefit of BitShares, but funds are lacking?
What if the community could in these situations give funds voluntarily and immediately?

I believe there may be various ways to implement something like this. The main problems I see are that some trust would likely be needed, and subjective issues would need to be voted/argued on.

Perhaps this isn't possible, or would introduce too much scope for underhand dealings?

There are some complicated issues here, perhaps more than meets the eyes.

Potential upsides:
  • This could be an alternative, in some cases, to increasing inflation.
  • It could offer increased 'yield' to those individuals who want to take risks, at the same time as supporting improvements to BitShares.
  • These individual risk takers could swallow the loss of the initial investment, instead of the BitShares userbase as a whole.
  • Perhaps this method would therefore allow risky projects to take place when otherwise they wouldn't have got off the ground.
  • It could allow more flexibility if opportunities suddenly appear which would ordinarily take a long time to fund.


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General Discussion / Does this describe your BitShares process?
« on: November 09, 2014, 05:37:24 pm »
  • Hmmm...this BitShares thing looks promising. Protoshares? I'm gonna get some.
  • Oooh, what's this? Angelshares? I'm in! How much should I donate? I fundamentally love the ideas behind BitShares and trust the people. I'd like to go all in, but I've got a family to support. I'm going to put a significant chunk into it, but not too much - I must be responsible!
  • Oh shit, oh shit!!! The snapshot for BitsharesX has been announced and I've not given enough to Angelshares. Oh bugger, the daily donation amount has gone right up! Gonna put more in, but can't go crazy - I've got the children's future to think about!
  • Oh, the daily donations to Angelshares have dropped right off after the BTSX snapshot. I want some cheap AGS - there are all those other DACs which haven't had snapshots yet. Gonna send a few more BTC/PTS. Not too many though, I've got bills to pay! Gotta be responsible!
  • I want to diversify, there's loads of crypto stuff about. I'm going to buy some Bitcoin so I can get some other crypto stuff...I wanna get some NXT...but I love BitShares...oh crap, I sent all the Bitcoin to the AGS address!
  • People are whingeing and complaining all over the forum. They don't trust 3I because nothing's been released...I'm not worried, I believe in BitShares more than anything else around! More AGS please!
  • The Angelshares window is closing! Last chance! Oh sugar, the price is going up again! Hmmmm....no, I've given loads already. I mustn't take risks unnecessarily. I must save money for the family's future.
  • OH FUCK!!! The AGS window is now closed, and it's never coming back!!! I wish I'd gone all in, but I had to be responsible.

Throughout the process, and with everything that's happened since, my feelings remain solid:
"With BitShares, it's about the attitude and the ideas. The ups and downs and market caps are not so important. We're going places and changing the world."


P.S. I never managed to buy any significant amounts of NXT, even though I like what they do. It all keeps coming to BitShares! Can anyone here motivate me to get some NXT please? :D

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General Discussion / Visa Checkout Advertisement
« on: November 04, 2014, 08:53:56 pm »
Has anyone seen this ad? http://youtu.be/FLZuGJUDzJM
Visa Checkout with Larry Fitzgerald

Just posting this up in case it gives anyone some useful ideas (not that there's much to it!)
That is all...

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