Quote from: twitter on January 06, 2016, 07:30:42 PM

QuoteAnyone can create new smart contracts for BitShares today. There is ample

BM, i guess there is a typo in your blog "ample" ---> "sample"

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http://bytemaster.github.io/blog/2015/12/30/Why-I-like-Ethereum/

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thats not a typo

QuoteAnyone can create new smart contracts for BitShares today. There is ample

BM, i guess there is a typo in your blog "ample" ---> "sample"

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http://bytemaster.github.io/blog/2015/12/30/Why-I-like-Ethereum/
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Quote from: xeroc on January 05, 2016, 04:18:40 PM
Can we get in contact with the guys from http://ciyam.org/ again?
@cass: IIRC, you have a contact

With workers and FBAs on the blockchain, we may be able to convince them to help us out

Last I believe I was close to convincing Ian Knowles to integrate AT into bitshares but he was on the fence about the project in the first place, although he is on the fence about just about everything... at that time ByteMaster never replied to my private message so I just assumed it was off the table for bitshares and I never really spoke to CIYAM since... I was integrating AT into bitcoin but that fell apart when me and Ian has philosophical differences than seemed to make him not want to work with me anymore so since then I tihnk they are working on their own platform which tries to enable developers from creating software through a manufacturing process (think templates) and blockchain is just a small part of it, although its ambitious im highly skeptical of its merits and usefulness anytime soon.

He made wild claims such as the BCNxt was non-existant and was actually ComeFromBeyond in disguise and that the whole NXT thing was built ontop of a scam, so he pulled out of it because initially he wsa to do ACCT on NXT(this i believe)... and that he would work with Vitalik but vitalik doesn't listen and does things the wrong way (this i don't believe), although when I asked vitalik he didn't even know who Ian was so go figure.

Essentially its a one-man team and a helper (vasilis does the grunt work based off of design) Vasilis is a good worker but Ian is the guy with the design although I kind of know it now too. Working in a team with Ian is asking for trouble as he wants to have things his way or no way.

Looking at this commit done 2 days ago https://github.com/ciyam/ciyam/commit/9d7f7753c67858f79cc007c39e50a97376a8b861
it seems possible to do ACCT through CLTV on the latest bitcoin core which integrated peter todd's OP

The guy is smart but not that smart, the real guy we should be going for is Tier Nolan who comes up with the idea of ACCT from which Ian used to build his c++ prototype. Tier also commented in the CLTV thread on bct and said it can be used to do ACCT through CLTV which Ian is trying to do now.

Quote from: xeroc on January 05, 2016, 04:18:40 PM
Can we get in contact with the guys from http://ciyam.org/ again?
@cass: IIRC, you have a contact

With workers and FBAs on the blockchain, we may be able to convince them to help us out

That would be quite interesting to see

Quote from: xeroc on January 05, 2016, 04:18:40 PM
Can we get in contact with the guys from http://ciyam.org/ again?
@cass: IIRC, you have a contact

With workers and FBAs on the blockchain, we may be able to convince them to help us out

I agree it would be nice to have multiple options on one chain.

Can we get in contact with the guys from http://ciyam.org/ again?
@cass: IIRC, you have a contact

With workers and FBAs on the blockchain, we may be able to convince them to help us out

"I would actively support a FBA to integrate the Ethereum VM into BitShares. Done properly this would have significant advantages over the current Ethereum blockchain" BM

I think this is a very good approach +5%

Quote from: jakub on December 30, 2015, 08:00:43 PM
BitShares can process smart-contracts faster and in a more efficient way than Ethereum.
Also, block frequency close to 1 second might be unavailable on Ethereum.
But it's a trade-off because it's harder to deploy a smart-contract on BitShares than on Ethereum.

I believe this trade-off would be a non-issue once (and if) full documentations with easy how-to guides are developed for bitshares.

Quote from: sittingduck on December 31, 2015, 04:08:28 AM
That issue was resolved and since then Dan and v have been friendly

i actually believe that dan asking that question was one of the reasons why vitalik made so many of his own changes to ethereum.   I mean ethereum is still going to end up POS right?

Do you consider why you are change , how many percentage of reason is price .

That issue was resolved and since then Dan and v have been friendly

Quote from: IOHKCharles on December 30, 2015, 11:40:05 PM
Review the panel video from 2014 in Jan with Dan, David Johnston and me. Stan asked to form a crypto triumvirate between ethereum, mastercoin and bitshares. At that same conference, Dan asked an ambush question to vitalik and then made a YouTube video attacking his answer. It created a lot of very unnecessary bad blood.

I actually wanted a partnership and was willing to work with Bo and Stan at creating one. The video and how vitalik was treated made it extremely difficult politically for me to suggest it.

So we still need to wonder why BitShares has no developers outside of several people ? I don't think it's about money or budget anymore .

Yea, one of the founders.

A person who works for them express his personal opinion. One person is not a company.

ERIS pretty much called Bitshares garbage. You really think they are going work with us? I doubt it.