Quote from: Zapply on April 19, 2016, 01:43:32 PM
4)free transaction fee and bond market

YES

Bond market:
BSIP70: Lending for Margin Trading
BSIP78: MLP (Market Liquidity Pool)
New BSIP: MPLP (Margin Position Liquidity Pool)

Free transfers:
New BSIP: Free TRANSFERs with coin-days

Quote from: gamey on April 20, 2016, 08:27:48 AM

Quote from: bitimaru on April 19, 2016, 11:26:15 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but some whales leaving ship just give more leadership to the remaining supporters. Right?
At that point, I think BM withdraw on a facebook/reddit (Please name me a reddit clone that doesnt feel like russian thundra right now) is all what was really needed for BTS to focus and move on with a more  'enlighten' alignement with workers/voters.

Leadership was lazy and now it's time for change. Statu quo sucks. Both for investment and development.

How are workers who write a signficant enhancement to the code ever going to be elected?   It is one thing for a single person.. but a whole team?  They're supposed to assume that yunbi never becomes popular etc ?  Chinese no-dilution movement has dug a nice hole.

now can start blaming each other or think of solution

Quote from: bitimaru on April 19, 2016, 11:26:15 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but some whales leaving ship just give more leadership to the remaining supporters. Right?
At that point, I think BM withdraw on a facebook/reddit (Please name me a reddit clone that doesnt feel like russian thundra right now) is all what was really needed for BTS to focus and move on with a more  'enlighten' alignement with workers/voters.

Leadership was lazy and now it's time for change. Statu quo sucks. Both for investment and development.

How are workers who write a signficant enhancement to the code ever going to be elected?   It is one thing for a single person.. but a whole team?  They're supposed to assume that yunbi never becomes popular etc ?  Chinese no-dilution movement has dug a nice hole.

Bitshares blockchain can be one of the Whale Powered Assets

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,22253.0.html

Correct me if I'm wrong, but some whales leaving ship just give more leadership to the remaining supporters. Right?
At that point, I think BM withdraw on a facebook/reddit (Please name me a reddit clone that doesnt feel like russian thundra right now) is all what was really needed for BTS to focus and move on with a more  'enlighten' alignement with workers/voters.

Leadership was lazy and now it's time for change. Statu quo sucks. Both for investment and development.

oh stop being such a BENEVOLENT WHALE!

Quote from: lil_jay890 on April 19, 2016, 08:18:48 PM

Quote from: Stan on April 19, 2016, 07:00:00 PM

Quote from: lil_jay890 on April 19, 2016, 06:17:18 PM

Quote from: oldmine on April 19, 2016, 06:00:29 PM

Quote from: Stan on April 19, 2016, 05:26:54 PM

Quote from: oldmine on April 19, 2016, 02:02:53 PM
In the other thread Stan seems to have relegated the bond market to an optional feature that is "still possible", whereas in reality it is essential if BTS is going to be seen as a real competitor to Polo. People want to short everything, not just BitAssets.

Stan doesn't get to relegate anything to anywhere.

The voters are 100% in control of what gets funded and hence, what gets built.

So when is the bond market proposal available for voting?

This is what I don't get... CNX complains that bitshares is unwilling to pay workers yet they never even create a proposal to vote on.

The only worker out there are bug fixers, GUI improvement and documentation.  Important, but none of those are adding a new core feature.

Proposals are based in part on what resources are available to work on them.
Resources are hired based on the availability of stable funding.
A constant battle over who controls the funding light switch means no one dares hire against any line item.
So the resources remain allocated elsewhere.

Voting is overrated.  I wouldn't want to ride on an aircraft controlled by voting passengers.
Give me a benevolent whale any day.

:)

So you are only going to create a worker proposal if you are guaranteed to get funding... yet there is no way to guarantee funding.

Good job CNX... you designed a system that not even you guys can utilize.

I may be way off base here, but my current impression is that a lot of Stan's recent posts are thinly veiled pitches for Steem & should probably be relegated to the random discussion area.

Quote from: Stan on April 19, 2016, 07:00:00 PM

Quote from: lil_jay890 on April 19, 2016, 06:17:18 PM

Quote from: oldmine on April 19, 2016, 06:00:29 PM

Quote from: Stan on April 19, 2016, 05:26:54 PM

Quote from: oldmine on April 19, 2016, 02:02:53 PM
In the other thread Stan seems to have relegated the bond market to an optional feature that is "still possible", whereas in reality it is essential if BTS is going to be seen as a real competitor to Polo. People want to short everything, not just BitAssets.

Stan doesn't get to relegate anything to anywhere.

The voters are 100% in control of what gets funded and hence, what gets built.

So when is the bond market proposal available for voting?

This is what I don't get... CNX complains that bitshares is unwilling to pay workers yet they never even create a proposal to vote on.

The only worker out there are bug fixers, GUI improvement and documentation.  Important, but none of those are adding a new core feature.

Proposals are based in part on what resources are available to work on them.
Resources are hired based on the availability of stable funding.
A constant battle over who controls the funding light switch means no one dares hire against any line item.
So the resources remain allocated elsewhere.

Voting is overrated.  I wouldn't want to ride on an aircraft controlled by voting passengers.
Give me a benevolent whale any day.

:)

So you are only going to create a worker proposal if you are guaranteed to get funding... yet there is no way to guarantee funding.

Good job CNX... you designed a system that not even you guys can utilize.

A crypto monarchy?

Quote from: lil_jay890 on April 19, 2016, 06:17:18 PM

Quote from: oldmine on April 19, 2016, 06:00:29 PM

Quote from: Stan on April 19, 2016, 05:26:54 PM

Quote from: oldmine on April 19, 2016, 02:02:53 PM
In the other thread Stan seems to have relegated the bond market to an optional feature that is "still possible", whereas in reality it is essential if BTS is going to be seen as a real competitor to Polo. People want to short everything, not just BitAssets.

Stan doesn't get to relegate anything to anywhere.

The voters are 100% in control of what gets funded and hence, what gets built.

So when is the bond market proposal available for voting?

This is what I don't get... CNX complains that bitshares is unwilling to pay workers yet they never even create a proposal to vote on.

The only worker out there are bug fixers, GUI improvement and documentation.  Important, but none of those are adding a new core feature.

Proposals are based in part on what resources are available to work on them.
Resources are hired based on the availability of stable funding.
A constant battle over who controls the funding light switch means no one dares hire against any line item.
So the resources remain allocated elsewhere.

Voting is overrated.  I wouldn't want to ride on an aircraft controlled by voting passengers.
Give me a benevolent whale any day.

:)

Quote from: oldmine on April 19, 2016, 06:00:29 PM

Quote from: Stan on April 19, 2016, 05:26:54 PM

Quote from: oldmine on April 19, 2016, 02:02:53 PM
In the other thread Stan seems to have relegated the bond market to an optional feature that is "still possible", whereas in reality it is essential if BTS is going to be seen as a real competitor to Polo. People want to short everything, not just BitAssets.

Stan doesn't get to relegate anything to anywhere.

The voters are 100% in control of what gets funded and hence, what gets built.

So when is the bond market proposal available for voting?

This is what I don't get... CNX complains that bitshares is unwilling to pay workers yet they never even create a proposal to vote on.

The only worker out there are bug fixers, GUI improvement and documentation.  Important, but none of those are adding a new core feature.

Quote from: Stan on April 19, 2016, 05:26:54 PM

Quote from: oldmine on April 19, 2016, 02:02:53 PM
In the other thread Stan seems to have relegated the bond market to an optional feature that is "still possible", whereas in reality it is essential if BTS is going to be seen as a real competitor to Polo. People want to short everything, not just BitAssets.

Stan doesn't get to relegate anything to anywhere.

The voters are 100% in control of what gets funded and hence, what gets built.

So when is the bond market proposal available for voting?

Quote from: oldmine on April 19, 2016, 02:02:53 PM
In the other thread Stan seems to have relegated the bond market to an optional feature that is "still possible", whereas in reality it is essential if BTS is going to be seen as a real competitor to Polo. People want to short everything, not just BitAssets.

Stan doesn't get to relegate anything to anywhere.

The voters are 100% in control of what gets funded and hence, what gets built.

 +5% +5% +5%  good idea

In the other thread Stan seems to have relegated the bond market to an optional feature that is "still possible", whereas in reality it is essential if BTS is going to be seen as a real competitor to Polo. People want to short everything, not just BitAssets.