Concerns about AGS donations being reinvested in AGS

Started by AdamBLevine, June 11, 2014, 03:44:26 AM

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These are honorable people. They've had hundreds of opportunities to rip us off. Instead, they have been frugal and transparent. Thanks for confirming again that our respect is well placed.

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Quote from: shemnon on August 20, 2014, 07:14:26 PM
Here's some blockchain analysis I did:



TL;DR - Stan, Synapticad, Cason, and an unnamed "admin retainer" reinvested over 20 BTC of their compensation.

seems perfectly reasonable...
You realize these are personal salaries and not funds still held in the trust as AGS donations, right?  Do you expect employees not to reinvest?

edit:  Ah, after a readthrough I see that you are not making such accusations. My bad, good analysis.
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shemnon

Here's some blockchain analysis I did:

http://blog.cryptocrumb.com/2014/08/reinvestment-of-crowdsale-donations.html

TL;DR - Stan, Synapticad, Cason, and an unnamed "admin retainer" reinvested over 20 BTC of their compensation.

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Quote from: CLains on June 15, 2014, 12:39:25 AM
Quote from: tonyk on June 15, 2014, 12:42:46 AM
Quote from: bytemaster on June 14, 2014, 11:28:44 PM
If not I will hammer them until I get what I want to see....

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+5% for the meme. that belongs in your meme thread clains I lol'd my ass off.

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Sorry, I think it is funnier with well-chosen part of the signature:


Quote from: CLains on June 15, 2014, 12:39:25 AM
Quote from: bytemaster on June 14, 2014, 11:28:44 PM
If not I will hammer them until I get what I want to see....



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Anything said on these forums does not constitute an intent....These are merely my opinions and I reserve the right to change them at any time.

Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.

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Quote from: tonyk on June 15, 2014, 12:42:46 AM
Quote from: bytemaster on June 14, 2014, 11:28:44 PM
If not I will hammer them until I get what I want to see....

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bytemaster

I have asked Stan, Brian, and Arlen to work extra hard to clear up this and provide increased transparency on when, how, what, and why funds are being used for.    If they live up to my vision for it then you all will be very happy. 

If not I will hammer them until I get want I want to see....   just trying to avoid getting side tracked by these kinds of issues so I can focus on release.
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tonyk

Let me get the facts straight though:

Whatever small tips I personally have received from the AGS fund I have reinvested back in AGS. So for me this whole topic is total non-issue because I know the logic why people do it without being ask/obligated.Granted I do it with just some change and not my main/complimentary income but the logic is similar and clear to me.
But this is done by me - one of the people that most actively/aggressively (and probably most often) is voicing his disapproval regarding all kind of Invictus decisions, behavior and suggestions.

On a semi-side note: If anything it is positive sign that people that are a step or two closer to the company's kitchen have similar behavior i.e. continue believing that the project will work and try to get bigger stake in the future DAC's
Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.

tonyk

Quote from: gamey on June 14, 2014, 09:37:03 PM
Cognitive biases are a *****.

(I don't have a way with words..)

Never let the Facts stay on the way of a good conspiracy!

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Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.

gamey

Quote from: CLains on June 14, 2014, 09:30:22 PM
Even when new evidence refutes a hypothesis, we often keep the feelings associated with the initial hypothesis, leading to rationalization of new evidence to fit a similar hypothesis.

Cognitive biases are a *****.

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I speak for myself and only myself.

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