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Quote from: toast on August 04, 2014, 06:47:28 PM
I would like to avoid "BitShares" in the name.

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why? would be good to have it. if bitshares will be big in the future, it will be a big advantage to have bitshares in the official name.

I am not sure about name. Might start another thread to discuss.

The DAC is called the Decentralized Namespace Service, which collides with "DNS" by design. The "products/services" are, initially, .p2p and KeyID. I would like to avoid "BitShares" in the name.

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Bitshares DNS

.p2p.io is the project name. in the future could include more DNS

Any more info on the 'paid positions for content creators' bit - I'm a writer and I'm curious as to whether I would be able to be part of that.

I feel Keyhotee Founders should receive their .p2p in the genesis block.

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Quote from: toast on August 02, 2014, 07:48:03 PM
Yep, there will be a bunch of "reserved words" which include all existing TLDs, for when we figure out the proper way to migrate domains.


Lots of great points in this thread, I will be sure to address all of them in the coming days.

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Yep, there will be a bunch of "reserved words" which include all existing TLDs, for when we figure out the proper way to migrate domains.


Lots of great points in this thread, I will be sure to address all of them in the coming days.

So in short reserve all TLDs and make available later for actual domain name sub accounts transfer/renew once p2p becomes the standard.

I was suggesting that name like microsoft.com.p2p is reserved. In fact what I'm proposing is that we reserve .com period. I love the idea of using the SSL certificate, those are serious responsible site owners. Not Microsoft.p2p but Microsoft.com.p2p. In other words one day we could have Bitshares DNS be the place to renew your .com (and all other top TLDs)

Trust me, Google and Microsoft will get theirs.

Quote from: donkeypong on August 02, 2014, 04:48:27 PM
Are you talking about brand names or about any website a company owns? The latter could take forever. Brand names will take care of themselves, because anyone who buys up a trademarked name is a fool...they will get it from you eventually.

I am talking about a particular domain name like google.p2p or microsoft.p2p. I am not sure what you mean by could take forever?

I do think it is likely to be foolish for someone to squat a brand name, but I am afraid people will do it and it will hurt the DAC. Imagine an early auction on google.p2p. On one hand, people will be bidding up a lot because they think they can sell it for millions to Google later. On the other hand, the very fact that Google would need to pay a significant sum of money for their own established name on some obscure service means they would probably pass on it, hurting the entire DAC. This risk is priced in, and so google.p2p will probably be sold early on to someone (someone probably anonymous) for a cost that isn't too high. How is Google going to use lawsuits to take their trademarked name from an anonymous person on a decentralized system. They aren't, they would just ignore it instead, hurting the whole DAC by not having a powerful ally using the service. Instead, if we make it incredibly cheap and easy for the biggest, most popular websites to come on board with their recognized name, we significantly help our cause. Think of it as marketing.

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Quote from: happypatty on August 02, 2014, 07:46:50 AM
If I may suggest, to ensure long term involvement and participation from established businesses. Make sure people with .com domains can somehow claim them. This will eliminate squatting names like Facebook, Microsoft, etc. perhaps if they can digitally sign using the DNS records you can award to their public key. Think long term 5 years from now.

I agree. I don't want this DAC to just be limited to cryptogeeks. To reduce barriers to worldwide adoption, I think we should give the biggest websites on the internet as little reason as possible to refuse to try .p2p out.

How about we go down this list, remove the TLD, filter out the redundant sites, and filter out any sites that do not have an HTTPS version of their site available. Then reserve those names on the genesis block along with the SHA256 fingerprint of their current SSL public key. The companies could later claim that name by using their SSL key to sign a statement that proves to the DAC they are the holders of the private key. We could even have them pay some fixed reasonable amount to claim the name or give them the option of putting the name up for auction if they for some reason think they can get a lower price on the open market.

Are you talking about brand names or about any website a company owns? The latter could take forever. Brand names will take care of themselves, because anyone who buys up a trademarked name is a fool...they will get it from you eventually.

Quote from: happypatty on August 02, 2014, 07:46:50 AM
If I may suggest, to ensure long term involvement and participation from established businesses. Make sure people with .com domains can somehow claim them. This will eliminate squatting names like Facebook, Microsoft, etc. perhaps if they can digitally sign using the DNS records you can award to their public key. Think long term 5 years from now.

I agree. I don't want this DAC to just be limited to cryptogeeks. To reduce barriers to worldwide adoption, I think we should give the biggest websites on the internet as little reason as possible to refuse to try .p2p out.

How about we go down this list, remove the TLD, filter out the redundant sites, and filter out any sites that do not have an HTTPS version of their site available. Then reserve those names on the genesis block along with the SHA256 fingerprint of their current SSL public key. The companies could later claim that name by using their SSL key to sign a statement that proves to the DAC they are the holders of the private key. We could even have them pay some fixed reasonable amount to claim the name or give them the option of putting the name up for auction if they for some reason think they can get a lower price on the open market.