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BitShares 2.0, Graphene & Cryptonomex
« on: June 15, 2015, 05:55:48 pm »
BitShares 2.0, Graphene & Cryptonomex

After much discussion with those in the BitShares community over the licensing terms of Graphene and BitShares 2.0, Cryptonomex has decided to take the following actions:

  • All code as of June 1, 2015 will be released under the CC0 1.0 Universal license (https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/legalcode)
  • All future work performed by Cryptonomex will be a derivative owned by Cryptonomex, Inc and will be licensed for use with BitShares under the BSD 3 clause license (http://opensource.org/licenses/BSD-3-Clause) where BitShares shall refer to a single logical blockchain regardless of how many side-chains it may add in the future.    Rights to use the work for any other blockchain are reserved to Cryptonomex, Inc.
  • All future additions to BitShares will be licensed by their respective authors according to the terms laid out in their individual worker proposals.
Cryptonomex will continue to propose upgrades to BitShares to be funded with stakeholder approval. In all such proposals Cryptonomex will retain the copyright on the work and license it for use with the BitShares blockchain under the BSD license.  All other uses for such future work will be reserved to Cryptonomex.

Cryptonomex has not accepted any funding from the Angel Shares donations made to Invictus.

Cryptonomex is committed to the long-term success of BitShares and will depend upon the BitShares community as much as the BitShares community depends upon us.   
« Last Edit: June 15, 2015, 05:59:53 pm by bytemaster »
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Re: BitShares 2.0, Graphene & Cryptonomex
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2015, 06:24:29 pm »
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Re: BitShares 2.0, Graphene & Cryptonomex
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2015, 06:32:26 pm »
Excellent  +5%

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Re: BitShares 2.0, Graphene & Cryptonomex
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2015, 06:33:44 pm »
Initially, if there was new chain based on the toolkit we expected a sharedrop, but I assume that's out of the window now?

What if something radical needs to happen in future like the Bitshares blockchain is forked to make two take care of different areas and targets?

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Re: BitShares 2.0, Graphene & Cryptonomex
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2015, 06:35:16 pm »
Initially, if there was new chain based on the toolkit we expected a sharedrop, but I assume that's out of the window now?

PLAY and Music were sharedropped on the AGS/PTS(BTS) , but don't know if they could pay for a licence .
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Re: BitShares 2.0, Graphene & Cryptonomex
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2015, 06:47:54 pm »
Initially, if there was new chain based on the toolkit we expected a sharedrop, but I assume that's out of the window now?

PLAY and Music were sharedropped on the AGS/PTS(BTS) , but don't know if they could pay for a licence .

Music is working with us and we are already being funded by them for customizations that will flow back in to BTS.
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Re: BitShares 2.0, Graphene & Cryptonomex
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2015, 06:50:19 pm »
Can the licensing be made in such a way as if to say that any new chain can use it provided they sharedrop 20% on BTS.

(Not going to happen as CNX won't like it, but wondered if it is a possibility)

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Re: BitShares 2.0, Graphene & Cryptonomex
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2015, 06:58:19 pm »
Can the licensing be made in such a way as if to say that any new chain can use it provided they sharedrop 20% on BTS.

(Not going to happen as CNX won't like it, but wondered if it is a possibility)

Anything is possible, especially if the new chain wants to court the BTS community in that fashion, but it would be independent of any licensing/consulting deal they worked out with Cryptonomix I'd imagine.
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Re: BitShares 2.0, Graphene & Cryptonomex
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2015, 06:59:10 pm »
All code as of June 1, 2015 will be released under the CC0 1.0 Universal license (https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/legalcode)
  • All future work performed by Cryptonomex will be a derivative owned by Cryptonomex, Inc and will be licensed for use with BitShares under the BSD 3 clause license (http://opensource.org/licenses/BSD-3-Clause) where BitShares shall refer to a single logical blockchain regardless of how many side-chains it may add in the future.    Rights to use the work for any other blockchain are reserved to Cryptonomex, Inc.
  • All future additions to BitShares will be licensed by their respective authors according to the terms laid out in their individual worker proposals.
Cryptonomex is committed to the long-term success of BitShares and will depend upon the BitShares community as much as the BitShares community depends upon us.

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Re: BitShares 2.0, Graphene & Cryptonomex
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2015, 07:14:09 pm »
Can the licensing be made in such a way as if to say that any new chain can use it provided they sharedrop 20% on BTS.

(Not going to happen as CNX won't like it, but wondered if it is a possibility)

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Re: BitShares 2.0, Graphene & Cryptonomex
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2015, 07:45:56 pm »
Fully agreed. CNX  +5%

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Re: BitShares 2.0, Graphene & Cryptonomex
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2015, 07:46:43 pm »
http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/BitShares/AGS

Your point?   Everything the AGS funds paid for has been given away for free as public domain.  CNX has not laid claim to anything created by AGS.

Unfortunately the AGS funds were not limitless and are now long gone.   
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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2015, 07:53:53 pm »
http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/BitShares/AGS

Cryptonomex is share dropping 100% on the BTS blockchain in exchange for hiring away all its core developers. The alternative is for them to share drop 20%, in accordance with the social contract, and then compete directly.

Greed would be: Forking the public domain software, hiring away the core devs, and telling us all to go get bent.

This situation is far from optimal but given the circumstances I'm pretty happy with the new lifeline and the cost of it.

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Re: BitShares 2.0, Graphene & Cryptonomex
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2015, 08:52:15 pm »
Cryptonomex has my  +5% going forward.

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Re: BitShares 2.0, Graphene & Cryptonomex
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2015, 09:03:01 pm »
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Re: BitShares 2.0, Graphene & Cryptonomex
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2015, 09:08:19 pm »
Cryptonomex is share dropping 100% on the BTS blockchain in exchange for hiring away all its core developers.

Where'd you see that? I'm still plowing through all these posts and must have overlooked that.

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Re: BitShares 2.0, Graphene & Cryptonomex
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2015, 09:09:54 pm »
Cryptonomex is share dropping 100% on the BTS blockchain in exchange for hiring away all its core developers.

Where'd you see that? I'm still plowing through all these posts and must have overlooked that.

Not CNX stock... Graphene / BTS 2.0 is a 100% sharedrop.
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Re: BitShares 2.0, Graphene & Cryptonomex
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2015, 09:18:39 pm »
<taking off cloak of composure>

Can everyone just shut the hell up and let them get 2.0 into dev?!

They just GAVE AWAY nearly half a year of work after all the FUD about IP and claims of greed and some people are taking that as an invitation to ask for more?!

Tell me newmine or klosure.. can you to give up half a year of your paid work to us just like the big scary Cryptonomex just did!? Yeah, that's what I thought. Take a seat.

People are taking this as an opening to continue debating things to work the way they think it should.

People who CLAIM to be supporters of BitShares have unwittingly contributed to this FUD in the name of open discussion. Cryptonomex has shown their hand and have given up nearly half a year of work in response. So what's yours? What SHOULD be yours?

How about REAL discussions about building BitShares. This crybaby-self-aggrandized-zealot-verbal-diarrhea some are so engaged in just stinks to the rest of us who see you all pandering to the fears and uncertainties of others who don't even understand what they are fearing!

There IS such thing as bad and unproductive discussion in forums. If you ask the wrong questions, you will get the wrong answers.. and that's exactly what so many of you just bought into with what newmine/klosure sold you. You should feel ripped off by them, but they are slick enough to always redirect that feeling of being ripped off at the very devs that gave you BitShares.

Let's be clear once again.

When 2.0 is out.. PROPOSALS can be brought forward and VOTED INTO EXISTENCE IF WE CHOOSE TO!

Any discussions about where we start from NOW are MOOT once it all comes online... because we will then have the ability to change things as we go as a community.

Didn't anybody actually look at what it is we are about to have? All the cries about community involvement and discussion on what happens to the blockchain.. NOW COMING! What do newmine/klosure turn you into...



So I ask in the nicest possible way I can muster as a Canadian to PLEASE STOP ALL THIS BS and LET THEM GET TO WORK.

You don't like it? SELL YOUR BTS AND GO BUY BITCOINS!

<putting back on cloak of composure>

 +5% to the team of Cryptonomex for the sacrifice you were willing to make for BitShares today. I only pray now that the community remembers this at least for the next few months until we have 2.0.
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Re: BitShares 2.0, Graphene & Cryptonomex
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2015, 01:04:21 am »
+5% lets go to the moon!

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« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2015, 01:10:27 am »
I really liked the initial license & open-source strategy, but if this frees or empowers you guys more then I am all for it.  Hopefully there will be more moats built post June 1st because BM, you and the team put out some amazing technology over the last six months, and I want it to be you gentlemen who lead us into the Great Age.
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Re: BitShares 2.0, Graphene & Cryptonomex
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2015, 02:41:46 am »
<taking off cloak of composure>
Can everyone just shut the hell up and let them get 2.0 into dev?!

.....oh my god, at last. Someone with some sense.

DataSecurityNode - you just did more to get yourself elected than anything else. ;D

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« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2015, 02:58:41 am »
<taking off cloak of composure>

Can everyone just shut the hell up and let them get 2.0 into dev?!

They just GAVE AWAY nearly half a year of work after all the FUD about IP and claims of greed and some people are taking that as an invitation to ask for more?!

[ ... ]

 +5% to the team of Cryptonomex for the sacrifice you were willing to make for BitShares today. I only pray now that the community remembers this at least for the next few months until we have 2.0.

Thanks, you expressed perfectly what my poor english couldn't do !  +5% +5% +5%
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« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2015, 03:12:32 am »
The funny thing is I'm not even sure this forum represents a significant portion of the shareholders. Look how hard it can be to get someone elected.

I have always invested in people and I believe in the skill, tenacity, and unwavering commitment of the core team.

I've already publicly stated my delegates will be switching to the new toolkit. All the ideology is great but you can't change the world living in a cardboard box under a bridge.

To win a race first you must finish. We are better poised to do that now than ever. While the whole space is getting its collective teeth kicked in our devs have found a way to survive and still contribute 100% to Bitshares.

Onward and Upward!

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« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2015, 03:55:56 am »

To win a race first you must finish. We are better poised to do that now than ever. While the whole space is getting its collective teeth kicked in our devs have found a way to survive and still contribute 100% to Bitshares.

Onward and Upward!


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« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2015, 05:51:09 pm »
and I thought it was a good deal before... And it's much easier when you use established licenses like CC0 and BSD!
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« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2015, 07:58:04 pm »
and I thought it was a good deal before... And it's much easier when you use established licenses like CC0 and BSD!

Here you go: https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-toolkit

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« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2015, 01:59:49 am »
The funny thing is I'm not even sure this forum represents a significant portion of the shareholders. Look how hard it can be to get someone elected.

I have always invested in people and I believe in the skill, tenacity, and unwavering commitment of the core team.

I've already publicly stated my delegates will be switching to the new toolkit. All the ideology is great but you can't change the world living in a cardboard box under a bridge.

To win a race first you must finish. We are better poised to do that now than ever. While the whole space is getting its collective teeth kicked in our devs have found a way to survive and still contribute 100% to Bitshares.

Onward and Upward!

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I haven't publicly stated it yet but my delegate will be switching.  I am hoping to make it to 30k blocks signed before then though.  Just for funsies. 

There was so much good in the graphene announcement, I was never on the fence.  The separation of block production, development, and marketing is something I have wanted for a long time. 

I am still curious how the single BitShares blockchain will be determined in regards to the license.

I hope we will have a discussion about the proper level of decentralization amongst delegates.  Specifically in regards to geography, and hosting companies. 
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« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2015, 10:12:34 pm »
 +5% +5% +5% let' sur ROCKandROLL... Great terms
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