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Re: IRC/telegram as a trollbox?
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2016, 03:57:14 pm »
Here is the best example I can think of for a trollbox within our wallets:
http://cryptofresh.com/u/announce
 
Just create a trollbox account, have users import the wif key, implement micro-transactions, code the gui and BAMM... We have real-time chat feeding the BTS ecosystem all at the same time. A profitable trollbox... perish the thought ;)
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Re: IRC/telegram as a trollbox?
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2016, 04:35:34 pm »
example page with trollbox
http://www.btswolf.com/bitshares/
can`t make it wider due to my current theme.

EDIT: https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene-ui/issues/725
« Last Edit: February 07, 2016, 05:18:01 pm by btswolf »

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Re: IRC/telegram as a trollbox?
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2016, 06:39:00 pm »
I believe what we're talking about here is not about redesigning the forum but just add a simple trollbox to OpenLedger, doesn't matter if it's ugly, as long as it fills its purpose. We can make it pretty or choose another one better in the future. It only needs to work atm.

I really think it would help bring more people in and it's always useful.

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Re: IRC/telegram as a trollbox?
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2016, 07:50:51 pm »
We could expand it a little further too.  I changed the memo key of Twitter.puppies to the same key as announce.  We could have the wallet show all transfers to any account that has that same memo key.  This way we can send messages directly to  others but still have them in our troll box.  We could automate the creation of accounts with that memo key,  and automatically create transfers from that account when typing in the troll box.  This allows responding like most other trollboxes.  Then we just need a way to ignore users. 
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Re: IRC/telegram as a trollbox?
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2016, 08:30:05 pm »

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Re: IRC/telegram as a trollbox?
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2016, 12:29:14 am »
that would be so awesome! :)
Take a look on: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,19625.msg251894.html - I have a crazy idea - lets convince cryptonomex developers to use livecoding.tv

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Re: IRC/telegram as a trollbox?
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2016, 06:39:09 am »
We could expand it a little further too.  I changed the memo key of Twitter.puppies to the same key as announce.  We could have the wallet show all transfers to any account that has that same memo key.  This way we can send messages directly to  others but still have them in our troll box.  We could automate the creation of accounts with that memo key,  and automatically create transfers from that account when typing in the troll box.  This allows responding like most other trollboxes.  Then we just need a way to ignore users.

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Re: IRC/telegram as a trollbox?
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2016, 07:21:08 am »
There are at least four problems with using the blockchain to make a trollbox:

1. Decoding memos is slow!
2. Paying a fee to chat would probably be unacceptable to most.
3. You'd need to unlock your wallet just to chat
4. No mod capabilities

This is why I'll most likely use IRC or XMPP..
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Re: IRC/telegram as a trollbox?
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2016, 08:09:35 am »
There are at least four problems with using the blockchain to make a trollbox:

1. Decoding memos is slow!
2. Paying a fee to chat would probably be unacceptable to most.
3. You'd need to unlock your wallet just to chat
4. No mod capabilities

This is why I'll most likely use IRC or XMPP..

1. Limit trollbox memos to tweet sizes like 140chars. 3 seconds is fast enough for me.
2. Pay per char like .00001BTS per char.
3. Not a big deal.
4. Why inhibit free speech? Especially if it's limited to 140 chars (per message, per minute, or whatever).
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Re: IRC/telegram as a trollbox?
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2016, 08:47:36 am »
Having to pay a BTS fee to post in the trollbox is a non starter - it has to be offchain.

However it would be beneficial to login to the trollbox using a blockchain registered username.

But lets just get something quickly working in the wallet first.

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Re: IRC/telegram as a trollbox?
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2016, 10:34:34 am »
The idea of charging for writing messages in the trollbox is ridiculous. We need to keep the blockchain capacity for transactions.
It just needs to be a simple chat box like irc
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Re: IRC/telegram as a trollbox?
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2016, 02:21:51 pm »
The idea of charging for writing messages in the trollbox is ridiculous. We need to keep the blockchain capacity for transactions.
It just needs to be a simple chat box like irc

I agree. Let's not overcomplicate.
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Re: IRC/telegram as a trollbox?
« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2016, 09:54:17 pm »
I believe what we're talking about here is not about redesigning the forum but just add a simple trollbox to OpenLedger, doesn't matter if it's ugly, as long as it fills its purpose. We can make it pretty or choose another one better in the future. It only needs to work atm.

I really think it would help bring more people in and it's always useful.

What is taking so long?
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Re: IRC/telegram as a trollbox?
« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2016, 09:56:35 pm »
Having to pay a BTS fee to post in the trollbox is a non starter - it has to be offchain.

However it would be beneficial to login to the trollbox using a blockchain registered username.

But lets just get something quickly working in the wallet first.

It's it's cheap enough that it is like 0.001BTS then it's fine. But the way to do it is like how MCXNow did it.

Their trollbox was free but only for a certain amount of posts per hour. So give the user a certain amount of free posts in an hour and if they don't make any trades or don't pay the fee then they have to deal with the rate limit. The people who trade or who pay the fee don't have rate limits.

This way people don't feel like they are paying. They get some free posts.
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