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We actually HAVE a video streaming platform right now. So far it only works with credit card and
Bitcoin but the plan would be to Graphenaphize the crap out of it  :)

We can't focus on this too much since we have a lot on our plates already. It would make sense to join our efforts to attack the entertainment industry from all sides.
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Yes I agree with you @cube and it's really not my call anyway.  Solly should build wherever it makes the most sense to build.  I agree there's plenty of working together which can be done and I'm all for not unnecessarily duplicating work.  I haven't really considered MUSE collaboration too much I guess because I know it has come up before and nothing seemed to result, also because cob is flying so far under the radar in stealth dev mode I only have the faintest bearings on their plans.  Solly, either way, keep going! :)

Oh I will broski you can count on it! I've reached out to Cob. We will see what happens this time. I dealt with Taulant last time so this may be different. Again thank you for your support. IT WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN.  ;D Happy Thanksgiving!


@cube you can be sure Solly has considered using MUSE, but why would we want to send him away to join a separate chain when we can have a killer content sharing app operating on the BitShares blockchain?  MUSE needs some competition, after all.

Nobody is sending Solly away.  MUSE is targeting similar music/entertainment industries and both MUSE and Solly have overlapped business models.  By working together, they may be able to reap synergy and achieve a higher chance of success than each working alone.

No worries Cube. I understand. I'll update on what Cob says. Thanks for your input here.
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Yes I agree with you @cube and it's really not my call anyway.  Solly should build wherever it makes the most sense to build.  I agree there's plenty of working together which can be done and I'm all for not unnecessarily duplicating work.  I haven't really considered MUSE collaboration too much I guess because I know it has come up before and nothing seemed to result, also because cob is flying so far under the radar in stealth dev mode I only have the faintest bearings on their plans.  Solly, either way, keep going! :)
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@cube you can be sure Solly has considered using MUSE, but why would we want to send him away to join a separate chain when we can have a killer content sharing app operating on the BitShares blockchain?  MUSE needs some competition, after all.

Nobody is sending Solly away.  MUSE is targeting similar music/entertainment industries and both MUSE and Solly have overlapped business models.  By working together, they may be able to reap synergy and achieve a higher chance of success than each working alone.
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Hey LilJay no problem,

The platform [Sollywood TV and Sollars and Sense UIA] will be built on top of Bitshare's DAC/Wallet. We will be using Bitshares as a back end. So both Content Creators and Consumers who use the platform through their iPhones or Android devices will essentially be using Bitshares. And this is the Millennial generation we will be targeting (18-34 year old Male/Female). A highly sought after market of individuals. If Bitshares can capture this demographic with a killer application they actually want to use we win plain and simple.

My argument has always been the way to do that is through changing the content pricing system in Hollywood which consumers Hate and loathe in America (and Millennials are not adopting at all). Everyone is waiting for a better solution. Its a $200+ Billion industry just waiting to be disrupted like the Taxi system was waiting to be disrupted before Uber came along. That is what Part 1 is explaining. And just like Uber I am saying the Uber of the Hollywood and Cable Industry is our product.

Remember Bitcoin's market cap is $3-5 Billion with no clear utility for its technology in sight. The Content Distribution industry is $200+ Billion. Now imagine its disruptor being built on top of Bitshares. Cha-ching! There is plenty of room for growth and disruption in this industry and again Sollars and $ense UIA is going to be the key. Hope that clears up the confusion. If not let me know. Thanks!

So you are going to sell content to consumers and bitshares or bitassets or UIA's will be the currency?  Bitshares makes money through transaction fees?

So people deposit usd to get access to content, this usd is then converted to bitUSD or some other bitasset and transferred to the creator.  This way the creator doesn't have to deal with a bank... they can distribute to anyone.  Does this sound correct?

Excellent! Yes Lil Jay its very close with very small tweaks. The user deposits USD with us ( and payment processor) and gets the UIA in return. They then use this UIA to interact with Content Creators and Content.

This way neither the User or the Content Creator deals with the Banks or any other middle man that would want a piece of any transaction should it have been in USD. Payment processors and banks are VERY SERIOUS about getting a piece of transactions that happen in USD. This is even at price points below a penny. So we do away with all that Red tape.

Once content creators make enough of our UIA they can exchange it back to USD or BitUSD. Or they can keep it in the system and use it for Sollar ads to promote their content and potentially rack up more audience members  ;D It is up to them.

Remember this system works for all content creators from Student Filmmakers all the way up to Hollywood Big Wigs. That is what is revolutionary in my humble opinion. Hope this makes $ense. Thanks for the thoughtful question.
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Have you considered using MUSE?

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20191.0.html
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I think you should work with muse chain. You can use same backend and your model overlaps the peer track model.  You could just brand a sollywiid version and save at least 80% of the development.

Thank you Cube and Pheonike for the heads up. It is very much appreciated! As Brandon suggested I have considered MUSE. I would rather build on top of Bitshares but hey we all have to do what we must do. I will reach out to COB and see what he says now that there is more of a structure on my end and not just ideas. It seems like they could probably use me and this KickStarter project right now. We will see.

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"Everyone hates cable... even cable hates cable."  LOL.

Looking great Solly! The animations are killer, the voiceover and audio is great, it's engaging!  if only folks knew how long someone has to stare at a screen to make all that cool stuff happen!  I think coders of all people should understand.

I support you in accomplishing your vision however you see fit, and however you can manage.  As content creators we have to stick together in the face of all this fierce practicality.. eg. What's wrong with a horse?  Then later, if humans were meant to fly we'd have wings!  Then later, the internet, I don't think it will be used for much.  Then later, Uber? what?  We already have taxis!

The list of successful human innovations goes on, and each of them had their detractors.  As we progress into greater and greater abstractions of value, it just gets more difficult to convey the meaning behind a project of any enormity.  I'm happy to see you are still pressing forward despite working with limited resources, and facing doubters everyday.

Count me among your supporters, and though I'm stretched pretty thin on all fronts, let me know how I can help.

@cube you can be sure Solly has considered using MUSE, but why would we want to send him away to join a separate chain when we can have a killer content sharing app operating on the BitShares blockchain?  MUSE needs some competition, after all.

Brandon your support means a lot. As you suggested individuals do not know the time it takes to make great content. I've been on both sides of the aisle now with Code and Film. I wish more could appreciate it. But its understandable given the climate as you suggested.

You know what just reaching out means everything. Keep your holdings I'll remember this when this all blows up next year  ;D

You hit it on the nail better than I can. Everything that is innovative is met always with detractors and I am actually okay with that. Comes with the territory.

I  do have one final question about the proposal. What would be the process to even formally submit a proposal to see if it could get partially funded? Or is there one? Let me know. Thank you all for the constructive feedback! It really is appreciated.
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I think you should work with muse chain. You can use same backend and your model overlaps the peer track model.  You could just brand a sollywiid version and save at least 80% of the development.

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"Everyone hates cable... even cable hates cable."  LOL.

Looking great Solly! The animations are killer, the voiceover and audio is great, it's engaging!  if only folks knew how long someone has to stare at a screen to make all that cool stuff happen!  I think coders of all people should understand.

I think your project is just so far outside of the realm of most people's capacity to imagine currently, that you will understandably receive a degree of pushback.  I'm not sure if you can get this community to support a worker proposal in the current depression era mentality, where the fight is among which core features to add to the protocol itself, and with what funding, but a UIA investment strategy might be the ticket.  I would contribute something of my meager holdings to your efforts.

I think in the future when BitShares is generally profitable, proven, and healthy, people will loosen up to the idea on incubation services and seed funding for companies which are 'building on BitShares, and whose success will benefit the ecosystem.  Currently I wouldn't personally dare a worker proposal even for strictly non-marketing, non-referral oriented BitShares community content, since the community hasn't yet made up it's mind about how it is going to function, and is pretty much just making all this up on the fly.  But you have thicker skin than me, and so I guess it doesn't hurt to try!

Nevertheless. I support you in accomplishing your vision however you see fit, and however you can manage.  As content creators we have to stick together in the face of all this fierce practicality.. eg. What's wrong with a horse?  Then later, if humans were meant to fly we'd have wings!  Then later, the internet, I don't think it will be used for much.  Then later, Uber? what?  We already have taxis!

The list of successful human innovations goes on, and each of them had their detractors.  As we progress into greater and greater abstractions of value, it just gets more difficult to convey the meaning behind a project of any enormity.  I'm happy to see you are still pressing forward despite working with limited resources, and facing doubters everyday.

Count me among your supporters, and though I'm stretched pretty thin on all fronts, let me know how I can help.

@cube you can be sure Solly has considered using MUSE, but why would we want to send him away to join a separate chain when we can have a killer content sharing app operating on the BitShares blockchain?  MUSE needs some competition, after all.

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Hey LilJay no problem,

The platform [Sollywood TV and Sollars and Sense UIA] will be built on top of Bitshare's DAC/Wallet. We will be using Bitshares as a back end. So both Content Creators and Consumers who use the platform through their iPhones or Android devices will essentially be using Bitshares. And this is the Millennial generation we will be targeting (18-34 year old Male/Female). A highly sought after market of individuals. If Bitshares can capture this demographic with a killer application they actually want to use we win plain and simple.

My argument has always been the way to do that is through changing the content pricing system in Hollywood which consumers Hate and loathe in America (and Millennials are not adopting at all). Everyone is waiting for a better solution. Its a $200+ Billion industry just waiting to be disrupted like the Taxi system was waiting to be disrupted before Uber came along. That is what Part 1 is explaining. And just like Uber I am saying the Uber of the Hollywood and Cable Industry is our product.

Remember Bitcoin's market cap is $3-5 Billion with no clear utility for its technology in sight. The Content Distribution industry is $200+ Billion. Now imagine its disruptor being built on top of Bitshares. Cha-ching! There is plenty of room for growth and disruption in this industry and again Sollars and $ense UIA is going to be the key. Hope that clears up the confusion. If not let me know. Thanks!

So you are going to sell content to consumers and bitshares or bitassets or UIA's will be the currency?  Bitshares makes money through transaction fees?

So people deposit usd to get access to content, this usd is then converted to bitUSD or some other bitasset and transferred to the creator.  This way the creator doesn't have to deal with a bank... they can distribute to anyone.  Does this sound correct?

Excellent! Yes Lil Jay its very close with very small tweaks. The user deposits USD with us ( and payment processor) and gets the UIA in return. They then use this UIA to interact with Content Creators and Content.

This way neither the User or the Content Creator deals with the Banks or any other middle man that would want a piece of any transaction should it have been in USD. Payment processors and banks are VERY SERIOUS about getting a piece of transactions that happen in USD. This is even at price points below a penny. So we do away with all that Red tape.

Once content creators make enough of our UIA they can exchange it back to USD or BitUSD. Or they can keep it in the system and use it for Sollar ads to promote their content and potentially rack up more audience members  ;D It is up to them.

Remember this system works for all content creators from Student Filmmakers all the way up to Hollywood Big Wigs. That is what is revolutionary in my humble opinion. Hope this makes $ense. Thanks for the thoughtful question.

Have you considered using MUSE?

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20191.0.html
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So I'm still confused how you make money for bitshares... Could you explain it to me like I'm 5?

Hey LilJay no problem,

The platform [Sollywood TV and Sollars and Sense UIA] will be built on top of Bitshare's DAC/Wallet. We will be using Bitshares as a back end. So both Content Creators and Consumers who use the platform through their iPhones or Android devices will essentially be using Bitshares. And this is the Millennial generation we will be targeting (18-34 year old Male/Female). A highly sought after market of individuals. If Bitshares can capture this demographic with a killer application they actually want to use we win plain and simple.

My argument has always been the way to do that is through changing the content pricing system in Hollywood which consumers Hate and loathe in America (and Millennials are not adopting at all). Everyone is waiting for a better solution. Its a $200+ Billion industry just waiting to be disrupted like the Taxi system was waiting to be disrupted before Uber came along. That is what Part 1 is explaining. And just like Uber I am saying the Uber of the Hollywood and Cable Industry is our product.

Remember Bitcoin's market cap is $3-5 Billion with no clear utility for its technology in sight. The Content Distribution industry is $200+ Billion. Now imagine its disruptor being built on top of Bitshares. Cha-ching! There is plenty of room for growth and disruption in this industry and again Sollars and $ense UIA is going to be the key. Hope that clears up the confusion. If not let me know. Thanks!

So you are going to sell content to consumers and bitshares or bitassets or UIA's will be the currency?  Bitshares makes money through transaction fees?

So people deposit usd to get access to content, this usd is then converted to bitUSD or some other bitasset and transferred to the creator.  This way the creator doesn't have to deal with a bank... they can distribute to anyone.  Does this sound correct?

Excellent! Yes Lil Jay its very close with very small tweaks. The user deposits USD with us ( and payment processor) and gets the UIA in return. They then use this UIA to interact with Content Creators and Content.

This way neither the User or the Content Creator deals with the Banks or any other middle man that would want a piece of any transaction should it have been in USD. Payment processors and banks are VERY SERIOUS about getting a piece of transactions that happen in USD. This is even at price points below a penny. So we do away with all that Red tape.

Once content creators make enough of our UIA they can exchange it back to USD or BitUSD. Or they can keep it in the system and use it for Sollar ads to promote their content and potentially rack up more audience members  ;D It is up to them.

Remember this system works for all content creators from Student Filmmakers all the way up to Hollywood Big Wigs. That is what is revolutionary in my humble opinion. Hope this makes $ense. Thanks for the thoughtful question.
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So I'm still confused how you make money for bitshares... Could you explain it to me like I'm 5?

Hey LilJay no problem,

The platform [Sollywood TV and Sollars and Sense UIA] will be built on top of Bitshare's DAC/Wallet. We will be using Bitshares as a back end. So both Content Creators and Consumers who use the platform through their iPhones or Android devices will essentially be using Bitshares. And this is the Millennial generation we will be targeting (18-34 year old Male/Female). A highly sought after market of individuals. If Bitshares can capture this demographic with a killer application they actually want to use we win plain and simple.

My argument has always been the way to do that is through changing the content pricing system in Hollywood which consumers Hate and loathe in America (and Millennials are not adopting at all). Everyone is waiting for a better solution. Its a $200+ Billion industry just waiting to be disrupted like the Taxi system was waiting to be disrupted before Uber came along. That is what Part 1 is explaining. And just like Uber I am saying the Uber of the Hollywood and Cable Industry is our product.

Remember Bitcoin's market cap is $3-5 Billion with no clear utility for its technology in sight. The Content Distribution industry is $200+ Billion. Now imagine its disruptor being built on top of Bitshares. Cha-ching! There is plenty of room for growth and disruption in this industry and again Sollars and $ense UIA is going to be the key. Hope that clears up the confusion. If not let me know. Thanks!

So you are going to sell content to consumers and bitshares or bitassets or UIA's will be the currency?  Bitshares makes money through transaction fees?

So people deposit usd to get access to content, this usd is then converted to bitUSD or some other bitasset and transferred to the creator.  This way the creator doesn't have to deal with a bank... they can distribute to anyone.  Does this sound correct?

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So I'm still confused how you make money for bitshares... Could you explain it to me like I'm 5?

Hey LilJay no problem,

The platform [Sollywood TV and Sollars and Sense UIA] will be built on top of Bitshare's DAC/Wallet. We will be using Bitshares as a back end. So both Content Creators and Consumers who use the platform through their iPhones or Android devices will essentially be using Bitshares. And this is the Millennial generation we will be targeting (18-34 year old Male/Female). A highly sought after market of individuals. If Bitshares can capture this demographic with a killer application they actually want to use we win plain and simple.

My argument has always been the way to do that is through changing the content pricing system in Hollywood which consumers Hate and loathe in America (and Millennials are not adopting at all). Everyone is waiting for a better solution. Its a $200+ Billion industry just waiting to be disrupted like the Taxi system was waiting to be disrupted before Uber came along. That is what Part 1 is explaining. And just like Uber I am saying the Uber of the Hollywood and Cable Industry is our product. Allowing content creators of every type to price with $ense (no matter how small that price is).

Remember Bitcoin's market cap is $3-5 Billion with no clear utility for its technology in sight. The Content Distribution industry is $200+ Billion. Now imagine its disruptor being built on top of Bitshares. Cha-ching! There is plenty of room for growth and disruption in this industry and again Sollars and $ense UIA is going to be the key. Hope that clears up the confusion. If not let me know. Thanks!
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So I'm still confused how you make money for bitshares... Could you explain it to me like I'm 5?

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i like your project and i think you have one of the best voices and faces for audio and video!

i think you will not get a worker proposal, this has nothing todo with the bitshares core funtcions, but take a look into creating
UIA like OBITS or METAFEES and make it part of the Kickstarter fundraiser.

First round (1.400 USD needed)
- fundraiser from the community to get working
Second round on kickstarter? 100.000 + creating new accounts for bitshares (so potential referral income from the kickstarter campaign)

what is the business model at all? you want to replace the kabel system but how?

Hey Shentist! Thanks for the constructive response. Yes I have not been paying attention very closely to how everything works in terms of Worker's Proposal. I just thought I would do one and see what the response is from the community. Either way I'm running the kickstarter and just wanted to see if the community would help out based on what has been completed. It takes a lot of work to make the type of stuff I have done.

Business model is pretty simple. Providing content at the right price (no matter how small the price point has to be). We would take a 10 to 20% cut from content partners who sell their visuals with us. The key here is understanding the UIA plays as a liberator for the rest of content creators who cannot partner with Netflix and see the Free pricing model of YouTube and its sharing revenue model as a dead end.

Let me know if there are any questions. Thanks for the feedback!
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i like your project and i think you have one of the best voices and faces for audio and video!

i think you will not get a worker proposal, this has nothing todo with the bitshares core funtcions, but take a look into creating
UIA like OBITS or METAFEES and make it part of the Kickstarter fundraiser.

First round (1.400 USD needed)
- fundraiser from the community to get working
Second round on kickstarter? 100.000 + creating new accounts for bitshares (so potential referral income from the kickstarter campaign)

what is the business model at all? you want to replace the kabel system but how?

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First thing you do is asking for brownie points after you received several months a full payrate. You could have placed some ads a long time ago, for example on October 13th, that's more than a month ago. How about publishing something now! and not always talk so much?

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