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Obit (s) for Bitshares ...when the name says it all
« on: December 03, 2015, 07:46:59 pm »
I expect this to not be the popular opinion. Which is just another reason why it might be the correct one.

But more importantly the actions speak louder than  the words. The action also show that they pretty much know it, and they know it damn well.


ohh and do not expect me to fight it, I am a small fish so I just have to follow the trend to survive. I did survive the brownies initial wave of consequences that way and I am damn sure I will end the same way this time.


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« Last Edit: December 03, 2015, 08:11:02 pm by tonyk »
Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.

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Re: Obit (s) ...when the name says it all
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2015, 08:02:07 pm »
Whats your point?

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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2015, 08:04:35 pm »
TonyK discover Obits  :)

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Re: Obit (s) for Bitshares ...when the name says it all
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2015, 08:16:27 pm »
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Re: Obit (s) for Bitshares ...when the name says it all
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2015, 08:22:05 pm »
Can you be more specific, please? #unclear

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Re: Obit (s) for Bitshares ...when the name says it all
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2015, 08:27:53 pm »
Since English is not a native language for some of you, let me clarify that "obit" is commonly used in the vernacular to refer to "obituary". That may be his intended use...or it may not.

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Re: Obit (s) for Bitshares ...when the name says it all
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2015, 08:36:18 pm »
Since English is not a native language for some of you, let me clarify that "obit" is commonly used in the vernacular to refer to "obituary". That may be his intended use...or it may not.

oh thank you for this information...
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Re: Obit (s) for Bitshares ...when the name says it all
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2015, 08:44:16 pm »
Since English is not a native language for some of you, let me clarify that "obit" is commonly used in the vernacular to refer to "obituary". That may be his intended use...or it may not.

Hahaha... you are right! No matter how many times I read it I never made the connection.

Very morbid.

I am still trying to figure out what tonyk is going on about.I am guessing he doesn't like obits.. perhaps he doesn't like the competition to green light.
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Re: Obit (s) for Bitshares ...when the name says it all
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2015, 08:52:42 pm »
Since English is not a native language for some of you, let me clarify that "obit" is commonly used in the vernacular to refer to "obituary". That may be his intended use...or it may not.

Hahaha... you are right! No matter how many times I read it I never made the connection.

Very morbid.

I am still trying to figure out what tonyk is going on about.I am guessing he doesn't like obits.. perhaps he doesn't like the competition to green light.

TK doesn't like that the OBits guy is dumping all his BTS on exchanges. I agree that sucks, but not sure how else to fund an operation since he can't exactly pay his bills in BTS or OBits.

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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2015, 09:00:25 pm »
You guys need to take me off ignore.  :P




thanks for the obits brah.

no not those "obits".

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Re: Obit (s) for Bitshares ...when the name says it all
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2015, 09:00:47 pm »
The good news is that despite high, wasteful inflation, the POW crypto-currency market had a good 2015.

A basket of the top 5 POW crypto-currencies would have given you a circa +25% return this year.

The BTC reward halving will represent a considerable saving, so expect 2016 to be even better.

I'm not sure what the problem with Obits is but if you considerably lower the weight of BTS in your portfolio you'll find you stress a lot less about Brownies/CNX/Obits/FMV/Other...

 
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Re: Obit (s) for Bitshares ...when the name says it all
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2015, 09:07:44 pm »
Since English is not a native language for some of you, let me clarify that "obit" is commonly used in the vernacular to refer to "obituary". That may be his intended use...or it may not.

Hahaha... you are right! No matter how many times I read it I never made the connection.

Very morbid.

I am still trying to figure out what tonyk is going on about.I am guessing he doesn't like obits.. perhaps he doesn't like the competition to green light.

TK doesn't like that the OBits guy is dumping all his BTS on exchanges. I agree that sucks, but not sure how else to fund an operation since he can't exactly pay his bills in BTS or OBits.

Actually the opposite - I am a ruthless speculator who does not mind repurchasing his BTS at half price and doubling the amount  owned.
To be honest I am not the greatest trader, so I survive on such clear signals alone.
Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.

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Re: Obit (s) for Bitshares ...when the name says it all
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2015, 09:22:12 pm »
The Obits crowd sale is not clear to me.

18 276 898 obits are offered for sale. Do these represent 100% of profits from both CCEDK and openledger or a different amount?

Are these just fee shares or shares in the company?

if its for 100% the $1.3 million valuation then it may make sense but anything less than 100% i find that valuation far too high.
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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2015, 10:08:26 pm »
Actually the opposite - I am a ruthless speculator who does not mind repurchasing his BTS at half price and doubling the amount  owned.
To be honest I am not the greatest trader, so I survive on such clear signals alone.

I do something similar.

I wait for Ander to start shit-posting on the forum; this is a clear buy signal.

When Ander starts making happy rah-rah post on the forum, it's time to bail baby!

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Re: Obit (s) for Bitshares ...when the name says it all
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2015, 10:17:33 pm »
I wait for Ander to start shit-posting on the forum; this is a clear buy signal.

When Ander starts making happy rah-rah post on the forum, it's time to bail baby!
How interesting. Ander is my contrarian signal as well.

Wait... what if Ander used himself as a contrarian signal? *mind blown*

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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2015, 10:42:02 pm »
I wait for Ander to start shit-posting on the forum; this is a clear buy signal.

When Ander starts making happy rah-rah post on the forum, it's time to bail baby!
How interesting. Ander is my contrarian signal as well.

Wait... what if Ander used himself as a contrarian signal? *mind blown*

What if there's no one outside of ourselves (like New Age bytemaster says) and we're just using our own contrarian signals?

This may explain why I'm, you're, Ander's not rich yet?!


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Re: Obit (s) for Bitshares ...when the name says it all
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2015, 10:55:15 pm »
I wait for Ander to start shit-posting on the forum; this is a clear buy signal.

When Ander starts making happy rah-rah post on the forum, it's time to bail baby!
How interesting. Ander is my contrarian signal as well.

Wait... what if Ander used himself as a contrarian signal? *mind blown*

What if there's no one outside of ourselves (like New Age bytemaster says) and we're just using our own contrarian signals?

This may explain why I'm, you're, Ander's not rich yet?!



This will help me prove that there's something outside of my mind.

What I think of placing market orders 24h in advance, will not result in me being poor and Jonny being rich already.
Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.

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Re: Obit (s) for Bitshares ...when the name says it all
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2015, 11:58:54 pm »
I wait for Ander to start shit-posting on the forum; this is a clear buy signal.

When Ander starts making happy rah-rah post on the forum, it's time to bail baby!
How interesting. Ander is my contrarian signal as well.

Wait... what if Ander used himself as a contrarian signal? *mind blown*

You guys havent realized that I started intentionally posting the opposite of what I'm doing yet, since you guys started using me as a contrarian signal?
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Re: Obit (s) for Bitshares ...when the name says it all
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2015, 02:56:20 am »

You guys havent realized that I started intentionally posting the opposite of what I'm doing yet, since you guys started using me as a contrarian signal?

Certain au contraire posters are well aware, I think. 

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« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2015, 03:29:34 am »
I wait for Ander to start shit-posting on the forum; this is a clear buy signal.

When Ander starts making happy rah-rah post on the forum, it's time to bail baby!
How interesting. Ander is my contrarian signal as well.

Wait... what if Ander used himself as a contrarian signal? *mind blown*

You guys havent realized that I started intentionally posting the opposite of what I'm doing yet, since you guys started using me as a contrarian signal?


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Re: Obit (s) for Bitshares ...when the name says it all
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2015, 03:38:52 am »
I wait for Ander to start shit-posting on the forum; this is a clear buy signal.

When Ander starts making happy rah-rah post on the forum, it's time to bail baby!
How interesting. Ander is my contrarian signal as well.


WOW WOW

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can someone save a contrarian signal 200 BTS and tell if those force settlement requests are cancelable?
« Last Edit: December 04, 2015, 03:48:22 am by tonyk »
Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.

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Re: Obit (s) for Bitshares ...when the name says it all
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2015, 04:36:13 am »
I wait for Ander to start shit-posting on the forum; this is a clear buy signal.

When Ander starts making happy rah-rah post on the forum, it's time to bail baby!
How interesting. Ander is my contrarian signal as well.

Wait... what if Ander used himself as a contrarian signal? *mind blown*

You guys havent realized that I started intentionally posting the opposite of what I'm doing yet, since you guys started using me as a contrarian signal?

Or do you post what you are actually doing, knowing that we know that you know that...?

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« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2015, 05:28:32 am »
I wait for Ander to start shit-posting on the forum; this is a clear buy signal.

When Ander starts making happy rah-rah post on the forum, it's time to bail baby!
How interesting. Ander is my contrarian signal as well.

Wait... what if Ander used himself as a contrarian signal? *mind blown*

You guys havent realized that I started intentionally posting the opposite of what I'm doing yet, since you guys started using me as a contrarian signal?

Or do you post what you are actually doing, knowing that we know that you know that...?

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Re: Obit (s) for Bitshares ...when the name says it all
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2015, 06:10:32 am »
Conclusion: Ander is an Alien just like BM

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« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2015, 06:13:02 am »
I wait for Ander to start shit-posting on the forum; this is a clear buy signal.

When Ander starts making happy rah-rah post on the forum, it's time to bail baby!
How interesting. Ander is my contrarian signal as well.


WOW WOW

I might claim this title real quick.

#######

can someone save a contrarian signal 200 BTS and tell if those force settlement requests are cancelable?
As far as I can tell they're not.
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Re: Obit (s) for Bitshares ...when the name says it all
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2015, 06:15:38 am »
I wait for Ander to start shit-posting on the forum; this is a clear buy signal.

When Ander starts making happy rah-rah post on the forum, it's time to bail baby!
How interesting. Ander is my contrarian signal as well.


WOW WOW

I might claim this title real quick.

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can someone save a contrarian signal 200 BTS and tell if those force settlement requests are cancelable?
As far as I can tell they're not.

ohh poor Jonny, I wonder if he will get 40 BTS per bitCNY or less... and he has business plan and video and stuff
Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.

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Re: Obit (s) for Bitshares ...when the name says it all
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2015, 06:56:05 am »
I wait for Ander to start shit-posting on the forum; this is a clear buy signal.

When Ander starts making happy rah-rah post on the forum, it's time to bail baby!
How interesting. Ander is my contrarian signal as well.


WOW WOW

I might claim this title real quick.

#######

can someone save a contrarian signal 200 BTS and tell if those force settlement requests are cancelable?
As far as I can tell they're not.

ohh poor Jonny, I wonder if he will get 40 BTS per bitCNY or less... and he has business plan and video and stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTrPfG6nTKs
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Re: Obit (s) for Bitshares ...when the name says it all
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2015, 09:20:31 am »
I want to sell my "obit" account.. is 10K USD a fair price?  ;)
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Re: Obit (s) for Bitshares ...when the name says it all
« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2015, 02:09:54 pm »
I wait for Ander to start shit-posting on the forum; this is a clear buy signal.

When Ander starts making happy rah-rah post on the forum, it's time to bail baby!
How interesting. Ander is my contrarian signal as well.

Wait... what if Ander used himself as a contrarian signal? *mind blown*

So your saying Ander is actually Dennis Gartman....
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Re: Obit (s) for Bitshares ...when the name says it all
« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2015, 09:02:43 pm »
Cross post, better suite for the cross related thread...

So, every news story on this just needs to get commented with a link to openledger.info.

Be creative.  Just say:  "Nice web site at openledger.info"  or something.

That helps establish prior existence everywhere.

:)



great idea to use as a community quest that pays out in bitshares and other sponsored/donated tokens. 

"For every post you write and link to as proof we will give you 500 bts, 200 Brownies, 300 Obits and.....(fill in the blank).


[member=6]Stan[/member], [member=602]fuzzy[/member] @anyone in this thread...

You guys behave like OL is bitshares... should I say they are not quite the same, very much the opposite is true.

Let's look at the facts.

- The Obits offering is sketchy, to say the least. Profit sharing is fine, details are gold [severely lacking details in this case].  How about anwering some of those question, instead of the never arriving into reality card:
What will happen if not all Obits are sold? What percent of the income will go to the one actually sold? What will happen to the unsold ones?

-basic explanation why the Obits sells are needed in the firs place would be also good... but no one cares to mention why they need 1 mil or so USD, and/ or what they will do with that cash

- Proceed of obits sells are used to simply dump BTS on the exchanges. It might be unavoidable evil if it was clear what the money are needed for, but OL hates explaining facts of life (great words for the departed or the one yet to come, is their strength, it seems)

-If the above is not bad enough, instead of efforts to improve in someway its core business (exchange on the bts chain), the money are used to buy all kind of unrelated and semi-related businesses (casinos, advertising networks, tipping bots etc.)

- The way this 'exchange' is run is also a big suspect... I often think the guy was indeed journalist responsible for the obits section of some newspaper... great media contact and total lack of idea what he is doing on the exchange side (aka core business). What I mean? well, I semi get that bitAssets are a total screw up in their mind so they rather not touch them but run their own UIAs -OPENBTCs and the like... but even those IOUs are totally totally ridiculously done.... you send your btc and you get some OpenBTC... then you have to sell them for enormous premium to get into BTS...things get even more crazy if you want to exit the system... Currently, OL do not care to offer their OPENBTC  for anything close to market rate... actually they do not care to offer them AT all for people wanting to take their btc out...some random guy is left to do that for them...and he is asking for 160,000 BTS/BTC with a market rate in the 125,000 range...


So, let's get some money to everyone promoting the above nonsense, shell we?
Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.