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Re: What time 'mindphlux' was kicked out of the committee and witness
« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2016, 03:48:09 pm »
I agree with many points mentioned by [member=23]bitcrab[/member] above.

this is why I sometimes feel we need a "joint meeting" to discuss these things...
.. most importantly, I agree with this.

I am surprised to see [member=4465]alt[/member] lurking the forum again. Would be nice if he
could write up what his plans and impressions are.

Furthermore, the 5600BTC are probably all spend because that is not too
much of development power, at least not in the US. I though agree that a
spreadsheet of spendings would be nice and I recall that [member=6]Stan[/member] has had
one published.

I can also recall that some of the funds have been handed over to
different people among which were some Chinese marketing guys as well as
a scammer in the U.S. that took the money and ran.

Also, from the perspective of I3/CNX, they delivered an awesome product
for the 5600 BTC paid (IMHO) and people can't expect them to continue
development with out further funding. Would you?


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Re: What time 'mindphlux' was kicked out of the committee and witness
« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2016, 07:56:24 pm »
I agree with many points mentioned by [member=23]bitcrab[/member] above.

this is why I sometimes feel we need a "joint meeting" to discuss these things...
.. most importantly, I agree with this.

I am surprised to see [member=4465]alt[/member] lurking the forum again. Would be nice if he
could write up what his plans and impressions are.

Furthermore, the 5600BTC are probably all spend because that is not too
much of development power, at least not in the US. I though agree that a
spreadsheet of spendings would be nice and I recall that [member=6]Stan[/member] has had
one published.

I can also recall that some of the funds have been handed over to
different people among which were some Chinese marketing guys as well as
a scammer in the U.S. that took the money and ran.

Also, from the perspective of I3/CNX, they delivered an awesome product
for the 5600 BTC paid (IMHO) and people can't expect them to continue
development with out further funding. Would you?


Apologise for de-railing this thread.
There was a spreadsheet of expenses that was being published at one point by Stan, but I think think it lacked sufficient detail and was very difficult to understand. Personally, I was never really able to figure out much about where funds were being spent and how much funds were left at any point in time. I'm sure at least part of this was due to the inadequacies of financial software for handling funds raised in multiple cryptocurrencies and possibly Stan's lack of experience as an accountant, but presumably there were better books kept somewhere for tax purposes. So I fully understand the dissatisfaction with this part of the project, although I do agree with xeroc that we did get pretty good value for our money compared to other crypto projects (at least on the technical side, obviously the marketing side didn't go so well).
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Re: What time 'mindphlux' was kicked out of the committee and witness
« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2016, 05:57:23 am »
I can only speek for myself here, but it is extremely frustrating that we have no means of communicating with @baozi how still is the proxy with the most support.
From my perspective(!) he has done VERY little to bring in any value to BTS recently. He has quit participating in the bitsharestalk community and hasn't replied to ANY of my approaches reaching him.
All he did was "claim" that paying workers at the current rates is not good for BTS not answering any of the major question raised:
* WHAT is his answer to bring value to BTS?
* WHO would work for BTS not getting paid?
* WHY would anyone work for BTS to make the whales (presumably mostly chinese) become rich?!

 +5% +5% +5%

The people from the anti-dilution camp need to understand that their money/stake is NOT working on its own and does NOT grow the ecosystem by sitting around.
I am (personally) VERY disappointed by the progress publicly made by the chinese community (except for recent announcements of the Just-Dice fork) and of course bitcrab who is doing an amazing job!

It may be a lack of communications but I don't see much coming from our eastern friends besides that.

(The above represents my (and only my) opinion and me be a result of recent frustrations not related to BTS at all. I apologize if I offended anyone)

alt just migrated with family from China to Australia for several weeks so maybe recently he could not pay much attention on BTS.

let me review the realized changes of BTS with participation of China community:

1. a live and working committee is built, no need to say more, this is positive and  important to BTS.
2. the adjustment of fee, this is also positive and important, now users do not need to care more on fees while doing transfer or trading.
3.the anti-dilution campaign that raised the worker proposal threshold. this is always in argument.

for point 3, in my view, China people are easy to be emotional to be against dilution because of several factors:

1. more than 2 years ago, users raised 5600 BTC and other assets to fund the development of BTS, now they are just told that the funds are all spent out, but there is not a report to tell how these funds are spent out.

2.sometimes some China users feel "the developers create worker proposal to develop, and finally they bring a lot of bugs, and then they create a new worker proposal to fix the bugs ". I don't think what they feel is true, but...

3.the salary gap between China and US/EU.

better communication can help to avoid misunderstanding, at least  I feel we need a report on how the funds are spent, this can help people to understand the necessity of dilution.

and I feel in such a "post BM" times several things need to be clarified:
1. which core developers are still working for BTS, how much time they spent and what are they doing?
2. does the core developers have plan to complete or extend the BTS features? for example, any plan for "Bond Market" feature to be done? without BM any problem in organizing these jobs?

actually in current BTS platform there are many things can be done, we can see Ronny is extending OL UIA list without stop, this is very well, however we also need to think about the future of BTS and in which way BTS will go...

this is why I sometimes feel we need a "joint meeting" to discuss these things...