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Re: btsbots wallet release v0.0.1
« Reply #60 on: December 16, 2016, 10:33:33 am »
good news:
app for android released new version
the bots will run as background service now, so it will keep alive when you switch to other app.

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Re: btsbots wallet release v0.0.1
« Reply #61 on: December 16, 2016, 12:23:17 pm »
good news:
app for android released new version
the bots will run as background service now, so it will keep alive when you switch to other app.
Wow .. thats cool!
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Re: btsbots wallet release v0.0.1
« Reply #62 on: December 16, 2016, 02:06:37 pm »
thats nice. good job  +5% +5%

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Re: btsbots wallet release v0.0.1
« Reply #63 on: December 16, 2016, 03:58:14 pm »
Running bot on mobile device may be not practical. I am thinking about hooking up something like rapsbery pi for running bot 24/7, which I can control from my tablet or phone.

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Re: btsbots wallet release v0.0.1
« Reply #64 on: December 20, 2016, 05:22:16 am »
Could someone please help? I think the btsbot has lost over 200k BTS in about 48hrs!

In an effort to help with market liquidity I created the mrkmkr account and funded it with about 760,000 BTS.

It was set to trade the following pairs at 2% spread:

USD/BTS

SILVER/BTS

GOLD/BTS

PEERPLAYS/BTS

CNY/BTS

CRYPTOCEEDS/BTS

COMPUCEEDS/BTS

I've just stopped the bot; when I started the bot the left column showed 23,148 CNY; now it shows 17,735 CNY. Did I really just loose >5000 CNY ?!?!




A number at the top of the right column (trade balance(28 day)) shows you how your trading is performing. If it is positive, you are doing good. To add a new account to favorite list, type its url, e.g.


The number in the top right of the 28 trade balance is - 6578.28.

Alt - can you please have a look at the trade history and let me know what the heck happened?

I'm not in this to make a bunch of profit, and would be happy to help with liquidity for no profit, but I think I've just experienced a >20% loss in a couple days!

EDIT: I've just spent an hour running every combo of bots I can think of, spreads/single pairs/multiple pairs/buy and sell/buy only/sell only etc. and everything I do loses money almost instantly. Can someone please let me know what I'm doing wrong? I must be missing something.

It also looks like the bot has bought a ton of compuceeds and very little of everything else. Anyone know what the heck compuceeds are, or why I now own 12k CNY worth?

Is there anyway to get the bot to trade everything back to BTS? Looking like a real mess right now!

EDIT2: Holy f*ck the bot seems to have purchased 5686122490 compuceeds, which are some type of token that seems to be rapidly devaluing. I added the pair as it was the one of the highest volume and lots of bots were trading along with cryptoceeds. How the hell did I end up buying so much of this worthless token and so little of every other pair being traded by the bot? Freaking out a little here folks, compuceed market looks to be totally illiquid on the sell side. I need to unwind these positions asap! Please help!
« Last Edit: December 20, 2016, 06:35:57 am by oldman »

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Re: btsbots wallet release v0.0.1
« Reply #65 on: December 20, 2016, 08:16:27 am »
some asset like COMPUCEEDS is very danger for trader
the issuer of COMPUCEEDS dumped maybe 5 billions  COMPUCEEDS these two days. and the price changed from 0.00013 to 0.00008.

to reduce your lose, I have two suggestion:
1. set a balance limit for the asset lack of liquidity. or asset with high risk
2. set a local price for these assets. for COMPUCEEDS, you can try to set the price to 0.0001 BTS
3. increase the spread of these assets. from the order book of COMPUCEEDS/BTS. there are not many sell order in the price lower than 0.0002. you can try to sell the spread to 30 or more.
4. reduce the order's balance for sell COMPUCEEDS. maybe between 300 CNY to 900 CNY. a big sell order will scared the traders for selling.

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Re: btsbots wallet release v0.0.1
« Reply #66 on: December 20, 2016, 08:43:42 am »
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I'm not in this to make a bunch of profit, and would be happy to help with liquidity for no profit, but I think I've just experienced a >20% loss in a couple days!

This can easily happen if the asset which you bought lost in value. When trading, use your brain. The bot can't think for you.

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Re: btsbots wallet release v0.0.1
« Reply #67 on: December 20, 2016, 12:21:36 pm »
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I'm not in this to make a bunch of profit, and would be happy to help with liquidity for no profit, but I think I've just experienced a >20% loss in a couple days!

This can easily happen if the asset which you bought lost in value. When trading, use your brain. The bot can't think for you.

I've followed your tutorial in setting this up! Here is the order entry:



I did the exact same thing for all asset pairs: set spread to 2% and order balance to 23,000 CNY in both buy and sell. My understanding was that the bot would buy and sell any time it could book the spread.

Instead of buying and selling, the bot appears to have bought (and not sold!) a huge amount of COMPUCEEDS. Why? Why are all the other bots buying and selling, and my bot bought up all the COMPUCEEDS? Why didn't my bot buy up SILVER, OPEN.BTS, USD etc?

Your language is not all helpful in this situation! I am very much using my brain and did not 'buy' billions of worthless tokes... the bot bought billions of worthless tokens following your directions. The whole point of a market making bot is not to take huge positions in single asset! I appear to have just lost thousands of dollars!

I need help to get my 750k BTS out of this mess and trading properly so I can hopefully recover some these losses. Can you please use some of your knowledge and experience with the trading bot to provide direction?

My trade balance is now at - 7107.85 CNY in just two days! No matter what I do, the balance just keeps getting more negative. Obviously I am doing something wrong but I don't see what or how. Enter spread and amount on buy and sell orders, click enable bot. It's not rocket science but it has cost me more than $1000 USD in the past 48 hrs. That is insane!  I need help, not smug remarks about using my brain.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2016, 12:45:34 pm by oldman »

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Re: btsbots wallet release v0.0.1
« Reply #68 on: December 20, 2016, 12:40:42 pm »
some asset like COMPUCEEDS is very danger for trader
the issuer of COMPUCEEDS dumped maybe 5 billions  COMPUCEEDS these two days. and the price changed from 0.00013 to 0.00008.

to reduce your lose, I have two suggestion:
1. set a balance limit for the asset lack of liquidity. or asset with high risk
2. set a local price for these assets. for COMPUCEEDS, you can try to set the price to 0.0001 BTS
3. increase the spread of these assets. from the order book of COMPUCEEDS/BTS. there are not many sell order in the price lower than 0.0002. you can try to sell the spread to 30 or more.
4. reduce the order's balance for sell COMPUCEEDS. maybe between 300 CNY to 900 CNY. a big sell order will scared the traders for selling.

Hi alt - thanks for responding so quickly!

Could you please tell me how to do steps (1) and (2)? I can increase spread and change the order balance but don't see any way to set balance limits or limit prices.

Could you also please provide direction on how to sell the COMPUCEEDS instead of just market making?

Here is what I have set for the https://btsbots.com/m/COMPUCEEDS_BTS pair:



This doesn't seem to do anything, whether I use the bot or enter a simpe sell order like this:



I apparently hold 5699158394.8463 COMPUCEEDS but only have a 'usable balance' of 0.0001 COMPUCEEDS. How is this possible? I don't seem to be able to sell any of the assets the bot acquired.

More disturbingly my account balance keeps dropping steadily even without trading, have lost another 300 CNY in the past 4 hours for no apparent reason. I need to get this fixed asap, help much appreciated.

« Last Edit: December 20, 2016, 12:57:50 pm by oldman »

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Re: btsbots wallet release v0.0.1
« Reply #69 on: December 20, 2016, 12:53:34 pm »
Why choice so much.please only choice:
USD/BTS
PEERPLAYS/BTS
CNY/BTS

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Re: btsbots wallet release v0.0.1
« Reply #70 on: December 20, 2016, 01:00:43 pm »
Why choice so much.please only choice:
USD/BTS
PEERPLAYS/BTS
CNY/BTS

I started running the bot with just USD and CNY, but I really wanted to help with liquidity in the less liquid markets. So once I was comfortable with the USD/CNY pairs I fired up the other markets and let it run for a while. No good deed goes unpunished.

I just don't understand why the bot largely ignored every other market and bought up billions of compuceeds. It makes no sense, I feel like I've been scammed somehow. I see lots of bots trading in the compuceed market and they don't seem to be acquiring huge balances. I also can't see anything I did wrong, same settings for all trading pairs.

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Re: btsbots wallet release v0.0.1
« Reply #71 on: December 20, 2016, 01:25:41 pm »
Ok, now I'm really confused. Sell order on btsbots site does nothing - does not create an order and I can't seem to sell any COMPUCEEDS manually.

Setting the bot per my previous post with 30 spread and smaller orders of 300-600 CNY does nothing.

Now I just tried to use the DEX to sell the COMPUCEEDS and guess what? Can't sell. Price of COMPUCEEDS just shows up as 0.000000, apparently unit price is below the DEX precision. This whole situation is seeming really, really fishy. The bot seems to have just allowed the COMPUCEEDS issuer to dump a shitload of worthless tokens at my expense.

What the hell is going on? I need an answer as to why a market making bot purchased more than 5 BILLION COMPUCEEDS and didn't do any actual market making.

Did I get scammed somehow?

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Re: btsbots wallet release v0.0.1
« Reply #72 on: December 20, 2016, 01:38:11 pm »
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Instead of buying and selling, the bot appears to have bought (and not sold!) a huge amount of COMPUCEEDS. Why? Why are all the other bots buying and selling, and my bot bought up all the COMPUCEEDS?

Because others are selling at better price than you offer. Check the order book. The way around this is to adjust the spread. To sell more and to buy less, you need to increase buy spread and decrease sell spread, like 10% for buy and 0% for sell (these number are just for example, you need to come up with your own).

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Why didn't my bot buy up SILVER, OPEN.BTS, USD etc?

Again, because others are buying at better price than you. During last 24 hours my bot bought and sold over 1 OPEN.BTC for me. Adjust your spread based on current orders and trends.

And of course, you need to be extremely careful when trading such shitty tokens like compuseeds, and never invest into trading more than you can lose without much damage to your budget.

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Re: btsbots wallet release v0.0.1
« Reply #73 on: December 20, 2016, 01:41:01 pm »
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I also can't see anything I did wrong


Really?

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same settings for all trading pairs.

This is VERY wrong.

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Re: btsbots wallet release v0.0.1
« Reply #74 on: December 20, 2016, 01:57:42 pm »
I think is someone found your robot's trading strategy ,and create a sniper strategy to obtain your bts.