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Re: [Witness Proposal] blckchnd
« Reply #75 on: October 03, 2020, 02:57:23 am »
不知道你是真傻还是装傻,还在幻想你口中所谓的 business person 来拯救你。
CryptoBridge OpenLedger SparkDEX 给的教训还不够吗?还有 Deex 之流就不说了。

就算掰开手指数现在还在 BitShares 的公司机构,
也要先看 Move Institute , XBTS , ioBanker , 甚至 BEOS 。
什么时候轮得到 RuDEX ? RuDEX 根本都不是注册公司。

RuDEX 有关联开发团队不假。社区出钱开发的btspp手机钱包,他换个皮就是自己的了。申请一个 UI worker 拿了一百万多万没做完。后来又想申请 core worker 拿钱,我说你先提交点代码让我看看,结果没声了。回头变成我不放权?

你的聪明才智哪里去了?一个 Thule 天天在你耳边吹风,就只有他说的才是真话?
不说别的。他说锁喂价好你就支持锁喂价。 RuDEX 完全是反对锁喂价的,他有没有和你说?
他天天黑巨蟹你没听见过?还幻想巨蟹和他和RuDEX合作。
醒醒。

记得当初锁喂价是你提出的,怎么在你这变成thule了?
我代理给thule是因为社区里他思想比较开放,能听进各方的意见,也有自己的主见,即使他很多观念跟我不同我也从没威胁他迎合我。
解不解锁喂价都有道理,问题在于怎么执行。
市价跌破0.22,很多人爆仓单一直不主动调仓,在内盘规则为锁喂价的情况下,包括我在内的一些人,借出CNY,按0.22价格把爆仓单清了,你隔天马上解锁,号称要恢复锚定,反把这些仓位给爆了,这算什么事?
有人说不解锁对CNY持有人不公平。问题是CNY持有人在明知有锁喂价的情况下,在BTS市价高于0.22,有足够时间换人民币的情况下,仍然选择持有CNY,这难道不该自担风险?按规则0.22借CNY 的反而成老赖了?
解锁喂价没问题,但一定是在市价高于0.22的时候做,把影响降到最低,这点你能不清楚?

对smart coin, 很早我就说过自己的观点,不该强求锚定,重心要转为支持网关等业务,基于网关的DEX相对CEX是有足够的竞争资本的,在业务增加用户积累之后,smart coin自然会成长不断进步。
openledger 为什么离开我不清楚,社区有几个派别我也看不懂,很多时候是斗的你死我活,也不知道是为了什么,rudex一直在积极推动内盘市场,我当然支持,很多人对锁喂价有不同意见很正常,为什么不能给与理解。
巨蟹是陷到 smartcoin 精确锚定的牛角尖,可能也是因为这个和社区很多人关系紧张,回过头想想很不值得,可能是在舍本逐末。

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Re: [Witness Proposal] blckchnd
« Reply #76 on: October 03, 2020, 06:36:12 am »
RuDEX 怎么赚钱的,我和你举个例子。
RuDEX 是上线了 STEEM 网关的。 STEEM 分叉空投 HIVE 的第一天,RuDEX 就把分到的 HIVE 转到交易所砸了。
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Re: [Witness Proposal] blckchnd
« Reply #77 on: October 03, 2020, 07:26:38 am »
我代理给thule是因为社区里他思想比较开放,能听进各方的意见,也有自己的主见,即使他很多观念跟我不同我也从没威胁他迎合我。
他能听得进各方意见才见鬼了。
什么东西在他那里都成了阴谋论。
支持我的时候我做什么都是对的,不支持我的时候,什么错事都是我做的。
天天满口自己代表 majority community ,真不知道他怎么得出的结论。

他自己去年申请的worker说是到媒体发几篇宣传BTS的文章,钱拿了,到现在一篇都没发。

我本来也猜他不在乎一点小钱。
结果怎么?
公会上了一批自己的见证人,明摆着从系统搞钱,他和Dima巴巴的跟着上,把别人投下去,喂价也不喂,API节点也没跑,天天在群里、论坛上怼人。

公会搞新链时说好给他 500 万新币。当然,后来给没给、他要没要我不清楚。

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解不解锁喂价都有道理,问题在于怎么执行。
市价跌破0.22,很多人爆仓单一直不主动调仓,在内盘规则为锁喂价的情况下,包括我在内的一些人,借出CNY,按0.22价格把爆仓单清了,你隔天马上解锁,号称要恢复锚定,反把这些仓位给爆了,这算什么事?
有人说不解锁对CNY持有人不公平。问题是CNY持有人在明知有锁喂价的情况下,在BTS市价高于0.22,有足够时间换人民币的情况下,仍然选择持有CNY,这难道不该自担风险?按规则0.22借CNY 的反而成老赖了?

解锁喂价没问题,但一定是在市价高于0.22的时候做,把影响降到最低,这点你能不清楚?
谁都知道我搞 4.0 是为了打破原有规则的。
你既然决定 0.22 救市,有什么风险你不清楚?
你现在选择止损不加抵押,我也理解。自担风险就是了。

锁喂价是我提的不假,我承认。但是,实际执行是因为你们的投票。
一开始可能还有点正面效果,有人津津乐道。
但看看后来执行成什么样子了?
从开始锁到现在,上过两次0.22了吧?持续时间也不短吧?解锁了吗?
内盘强清潮,曾经把所有抵押仓清到爆仓价 0.11 以下,即使解锁也没有爆仓风险,解锁了吗?

零和市场,规则变化,肯定有人受益有人受损。影响怎么算低怎么算高怎么判断?
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Re: [Witness Proposal] blckchnd
« Reply #78 on: October 03, 2020, 07:42:52 am »
对smart coin, 很早我就说过自己的观点,不该强求锚定,重心要转为支持网关等业务,基于网关的DEX相对CEX是有足够的竞争资本的,在业务增加用户积累之后,smart coin自然会成长不断进步。
openledger 为什么离开我不清楚,社区有几个派别我也看不懂,很多时候是斗的你死我活,也不知道是为了什么,rudex一直在积极推动内盘市场,我当然支持,很多人对锁喂价有不同意见很正常,为什么不能给与理解。
巨蟹是陷到 smartcoin 精确锚定的牛角尖,可能也是因为这个和社区很多人关系紧张,回过头想想很不值得,可能是在舍本逐末。
支持网关业务是没错,我也知道。
但要网关自己也要努力,不能只想着从系统拿补贴,等人送到嘴里。
这方面 XBTS.io 做的相当不错,自己发展同时也宣传 BTS ,只是他们也还需要时间发展。
反观 RuDEX ,一边从 BTS 拿资源自己赚钱,一边回头踩 BTS 一脚。和 CryptoBridge 有的一比。

至于OL,你说你不清楚,你不会去问、去听、去看?连足额给用户提币都做不到,底线都没有,谈何发展?在群里的公开言论,说 BTS 只是一个免费试验场,要走私链路线。我只能说,道不同不相为谋。
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Re: [Witness Proposal] blckchnd
« Reply #79 on: October 03, 2020, 08:58:20 am »
支持网关业务是不错,但是不代表重点在于网关业务。

这些年这些网关业务带来的资金流还不如一个bitcny多,甚至于如果能够达到bitusd的水平都要烧香。

像AMM这样类型的DEX为什么能够火,因为它恰巧抓住了整个市场面的需求,我持有BTC能够生息吗?我持有USDT能够生息吗?我持有Eth可以生息吗?我持有其它代币可以生息吗?我又不想去承担抵押爆仓或者借贷暴雷的风险,现在有AMM恰巧提供给了市场这么一个可以存币提供流动性收获手续费,风险还小于抵押与借贷的机会,我又有什么理由不去试试?何况ETH上的生态圈还处于顶端。
它的前辈Bancor这么多年起来了吗,loopring起来了吗?一个跟eht关系这么密切的loopring都起不来,太过于奢求bts上的网关dex了。

网关DEX想要从这些CEX及AMM领头羊嘴里抢肉吃,就要比它们更灵活,更努力才行,热点能不能跟上?热点币能不能及时上?做市商能不能拉来?各种活动能不能做?热点功能BTS系统能够及时提供开发升级已经是最大的支持了,还要要求一条链为它上面的DAPP做什么呢?难道还要一条链把自己的开发资金拿出来给网关DEX做宣传做启动资金?何况网关DEX还存在致命性的信任问题!

各个网关应当是有独立的社群才能引流资金,而不是网关社群与bts社群重叠率高达90%,这样社区互割下去能持续多长时间?

我开发一个新功能,目的自然是需要吸引其它社区的资金与人员进来,持有btc的,持有eth的,持有其它的代币的来这里使用新功能,从而扩大用户面促进流动性。

一个makerdai可以靠抵押锚定资产发展到现在这个规模,bts难道不能够达到它一半的规模?这种系统自有业务的长足发展难道对系统的发展不更有裨益?
Makerdai最开始也是建了一个DEX,后来呢,不照样嗝屁掉了,最后还不是在抵押锚定规模上来了之后才重新开发设计了DEX,没有抵押锚定业务的稳定收入与长足发展,他们会有这个闲情去再开发一个dex?

一个锚定资产这么多年,被MSSR割,被强清割,被黑天鹅割,被喂价割,这四割的问题有哪一个被真正解决了?都想着社区互割不想着把整套抵押锚定的逻辑完完整整的捋顺,不认认真真的把整套机制设计完善,这怎么能够稳定发展开发?

票仓要么个个当甩手掌柜,要么迷迷糊糊,要么只顾贿选争权夺利,要么去搞其它链吸血,这搁到哪一条链上不嗝屁?
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Re: [Witness Proposal] blckchnd
« Reply #80 on: October 03, 2020, 09:08:26 am »


社区出钱开发的btspp手机钱包,他换个皮就是自己的了    这个不假吧!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    还能不承认?都知道的事情


It's just one more lie from scammer abit. We never said that it is our app, we localized for rudex users and gave the credits to their creators, this is an open source app, so I could do with the code as I please



https://steemit.com/rudex/@rudex/rudex-mobile-app-announcement
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Re: [Witness Proposal] blckchnd
« Reply #81 on: October 03, 2020, 09:11:43 am »
RuDEX 怎么赚钱的,我和你举个例子。
RuDEX 是上线了 STEEM 网关的。 STEEM 分叉空投 HIVE 的第一天,RuDEX 就把分到的 HIVE 转到交易所砸了。

more lies from the abit

Read our user agreements.
For 4 years that we're operating on Bitshares, we never supported the forks.
So you trying now to make us look bad, but just shows how rotten you are
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Re: [Witness Proposal] blckchnd
« Reply #82 on: October 03, 2020, 09:12:36 am »
我代理给thule是因为社区里他思想比较开放,能听进各方的意见,也有自己的主见,即使他很多观念跟我不同我也从没威胁他迎合我。
他能听得进各方意见才见鬼了。
什么东西在他那里都成了阴谋论。
支持我的时候我做什么都是对的,不支持我的时候,什么错事都是我做的。
天天满口自己代表 majority community ,真不知道他怎么得出的结论。

他自己去年申请的worker说是到媒体发几篇宣传BTS的文章,钱拿了,到现在一篇都没发。

我本来也猜他不在乎一点小钱。
结果怎么?
公会上了一批自己的见证人,明摆着从系统搞钱,他和Dima巴巴的跟着上,把别人投下去,喂价也不喂,API节点也没跑,天天在群里、论坛上怼人。

公会搞新链时说好给他 500 万新币。当然,后来给没给、他要没要我不清楚。

Quote
解不解锁喂价都有道理,问题在于怎么执行。
市价跌破0.22,很多人爆仓单一直不主动调仓,在内盘规则为锁喂价的情况下,包括我在内的一些人,借出CNY,按0.22价格把爆仓单清了,你隔天马上解锁,号称要恢复锚定,反把这些仓位给爆了,这算什么事?
有人说不解锁对CNY持有人不公平。问题是CNY持有人在明知有锁喂价的情况下,在BTS市价高于0.22,有足够时间换人民币的情况下,仍然选择持有CNY,这难道不该自担风险?按规则0.22借CNY 的反而成老赖了?

解锁喂价没问题,但一定是在市价高于0.22的时候做,把影响降到最低,这点你能不清楚?
谁都知道我搞 4.0 是为了打破原有规则的。
你既然决定 0.22 救市,有什么风险你不清楚?
你现在选择止损不加抵押,我也理解。自担风险就是了。

锁喂价是我提的不假,我承认。但是,实际执行是因为你们的投票。
一开始可能还有点正面效果,有人津津乐道。
但看看后来执行成什么样子了?
从开始锁到现在,上过两次0.22了吧?持续时间也不短吧?解锁了吗?
内盘强清潮,曾经把所有抵押仓清到爆仓价 0.11 以下,即使解锁也没有爆仓风险,解锁了吗?

零和市场,规则变化,肯定有人受益有人受损。影响怎么算低怎么算高怎么判断?

more lies from a scammer abit

but because you banned Thule on these forum he can't answer to your false accusations,
he asked me to forward this on his behalf

Quote from: Thule

Abit you and Milos are manipulators notorious liars and fudders.


First of all the fud i received 5 million nbs for supporting came
from your mouth on bitsharesdac based on an article which cn-vote
posted.

I never asked for a single nbs from cn-vote.
I supported their witnesses before they even had a plan to fork out
of bitshares so your argument is just simple fud trying to discredit me
like you try everywhere but it seems not to be working.

Secondly i never received a single nbs other than airdrop on huobi.
So your attempt to make me look corrupt is just simple fud to make
your bad actions look better.


Even if cn-vote decided to give me 5 million nbs where i had no
interaction with it or even ever mentioned to get anything how could
you blame me for that ?


Other than you i never received a single token even you fudded it everywhere.
You on the other hand take money from the known scammer yip.



The next point about the articles.
I posted in feb i will use the the paid articles to promote the new
defi from bitshares which was in the core worker plan which was
delted thanks to you and milos.

You want me now to promote your dictatorship on bitshares and how
you destroy the whole ecosystem and reputation ?

I offered cn-vote after hearing that they have issues with cex'es
to update to the fork to restore old consensus to publish articles
describing the situation on bitshares to force cex'es to react.
Milos started to fud everywhere that cn-vote is making a hostile takeover
for which he even banned me officaly on this forum.
So you know exectly why cn-vote had issues on cex because you guys
told them lies that you made the changes based on consensus and cn-vote and me
are trying a hostile takeover.

CN-Vote stopped fighting for bitshares and decided to fork away
saying noone cares so they declined the offer.


About feed price threshold.
Abit like i said before you are a notorious liar.
Now you blame alt for it?
You know exectly you implemented the threshold
on your witness as first with no info,no bsip nothing.
Showed it to me and told it would be temporarly.
Since i wanted to safe big part of community beliving you it would be
only temporary i supported it which me and Dima disagreed heavily on telegram.
Today i can say it was a mistake because your word means nothing.
The temporarly changed to permanent even there was many times where
we could have fixed it without nearly any damage.
Remember my worker proposal to reduce feed price from 0.22 to 0.15
which would have caused no damage as lowest CR was 2.31 ?


You voted against it.
bitassets price was also higher than threshold.Where were you there?


old longterm bitsharians know your fud and know who created the mess and abused
his position for a long time.

How come you blame me only for not supporting you?

Was old core upset about your totalitarian behavior on github before ?
Was cn-vote and some other committee upset about your dictatorship in committee and MM before?
Was foreign community upset about your abuse in telegram ?
Was foreign community upset about the scammer workers you supported and defended before?
Was the community upset about your low ethics before?
I could make the list very long.
So claiming its just me seems you lost reality.

How did the foreign community called you abit before you even started mainnet 4.0 ?

A scammer and thief ?
Or is this conspiracy and fud from me ?


The next lie Abit wanting to protect users from abusers is just a
point to centralize bitshares.
OL,Sparkdex,CB were all registered companies.
How did it protected the users ?

On the other hand abits big supporters are

xbts
digital lucifer
beos
ammar


Someone just needs to listen to community what they think about them.

Is it a lie that digital lucifer tried activly to kick out gateways like
Rudex from bitshares ?
Calling them diffrent names ?
Is it a lie that Digital Lucifer tried to control all social media
accounts threatening to sue and acting like the owner of bitshares?
Is it a lie that Digital Lucifer acts like bitshares needs protection
as its been attacked everywhere and that he is going to provide protection
by being legal represantative and registering bitshares in thailand to have full control?


Sorry Abit i don't and won't support it.


Btw it's always a shady tactic to ban me and after that flood fuds about me where i can't even reply.
Like you guys did before
« Last Edit: October 03, 2020, 03:47:01 pm by blockchained »

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Re: [Witness Proposal] blckchnd
« Reply #83 on: October 03, 2020, 09:20:47 am »
支持网关业务是没错,我也知道。
但要网关自己也要努力,不能只想着从系统拿补贴,等人送到嘴里。
这方面 XBTS.io 做的相当不错,自己发展同时也宣传 BTS ,只是他们也还需要时间发展。
反观 RuDEX ,一边从 BTS 拿资源自己赚钱,一边回头踩 BTS 一脚。和 CryptoBridge 有的一比。

至于OL,你说你不清楚,你不会去问、去听、去看?连足额给用户提币都做不到,底线都没有,谈何发展?在群里的公开言论,说 BTS 只是一个免费试验场,要走私链路线。我只能说,道不同不相为谋。

Рудекс на данный момент через арбитражных ботов делает ликвидность этому полумертвому чейну. Все остальные шлюзы с около нулевой ликвидностью, но они в отличие от нас лижут тебе жопу, а мы вертем тебя мудака на хую, поэтому тебя и бомбит еблан



RuDEX за четыре года своей работы не имел никаких проблем, даже при поддержке анонимной команды, в отличие от шлюзов со всеми бумажками, которые уже закрылись и ушли в закат со средствами пользователей.

Мы ЕДИНСТВЕННЫЙ шлюз Bitshares с полным аудитом: https://audit.rudex.org/

Этот аудит у нас достаточно давно, а все остальные шлюзы закрыли аудит, как только твой мошеннический MM конкурс закончился. Где аудит твоих шлюзов с бумажками?

Кстати по поводу ликвидности, просто для сравнения пошел, сделал несколько скринов минуту назад.

RuDEX


GDEX


XBTSX


IObanker (honest_mpa)


Даже сейчас при полумертвой ликвидности на DEX, ликвидность RuDEX самая высокая

Мы как шлюз приносим этой платформе пользователей и комиссии, а ты abit только высасываешь эти комиссии через работников из общего пула. Совсем недавно ты обворовал сообщество получив деньги за аудит кода, в котором ты всех обманул и сломал консенсус. Ты вернул деньги за невыполненную работу обратно в пул?

abit ты лжец, вор и мошенник
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Re: [Witness Proposal] blckchnd
« Reply #84 on: October 03, 2020, 04:44:24 pm »
不得不说 RuDEX 表面功夫做的还是不错的。所有的官宣里,没什么负面字眼。
进了群才知道实际是什么样。

至于 Thule ,转发一个群里的朋友的话,总结的很到位。
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Re: [Witness Proposal] blckchnd
« Reply #85 on: October 03, 2020, 05:07:14 pm »
至于 Dima / blockchained / RuDEX , 其所作所为,下面老帖子你可以先围观一下。
如果要新的证据,我随时可以提供。

You just removed all messages from only 12 people. You can do better.














当然,有同事支持。

Thanks to your friend Thule.





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Re: [Witness Proposal] blckchnd
« Reply #86 on: October 03, 2020, 06:22:31 pm »
至于 Dima / blockchained / RuDEX , 其所作所为,下面老帖子你可以先围观一下。
如果要新的证据,我随时可以提供。


А еще дима перебегал дорогу на красный свет.

Ты забыл добавить, что перед этим ты забанил своим ботом всех независимых админов и удалил все наши сообщения в чате
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Re: [Witness Proposal] blckchnd
« Reply #87 on: October 03, 2020, 06:24:34 pm »
不得不说 RuDEX 表面功夫做的还是不错的。所有的官宣里,没什么负面字眼。
进了群才知道实际是什么样。

至于 Thule ,转发一个群里的朋友的话,总结的很到位。

рынок решает, наша ликвидность и наш сервис как шлюза, это с чем мы работаем, а чат он для троллинга коррумпированных мудаков типа тебя abit, это не "поддержка шлюза"
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Re: [Witness Proposal] blckchnd
« Reply #88 on: October 03, 2020, 06:48:04 pm »
After abit trojan took place yesterday we've stopped our witness infrastructure for bitshares.

We have a capable team of core and UI devs, so we're preparing a fork of bitshares code base, back to the consensus rules that was before the abit abuse on github.
It will be a new distribution, a new chain, and a new genesis.
 
News will come latter with announcements.



We haven't seen your capable team of core and UI participating in any development related to BitShares as organization; your developments were obviously self-interests and private use cases ONLY; you were using the platform UI and the blockchain as a free database and application server for your CEX/Gateway use case; you never implemented new features nor fixed a single bug effecting BitShares.

There is no problem with utilizing BitShares as a free database and application server for CEX business use case; but BitShares isn't ONLY "CEX" business use case; we haven't seen any positive approach from your side nor a vision to support the ongoing development of BitShares; I had witnessed myself your FUD and attack on BitShares as if you were BitShares's competitor or enemy; spitting inside a plate that you were eating from in daily bases on Telegram with your team and supporters.

You were abusing your position as an admin on telegram, FUD, bad words and harassments; you were driving the masses to give up on BitShares while others were working on new features to change and to fix specific issues that was preventing the platform from growing.

Your failing strategy of attacking the network community, FUD, attacking developers and personalizing discussions isn't the strategy that is needed to change any facts on BitShares; BUT civilized discussions with community members which obviously you were lacking.

Some are really thinking BitShares is only a gateway/CEX application server and database engine; "CEX" decisions are self-interest naturally; BUT it isn't BitShares development. perhaps CEX voters are being paid back under the table by corrupt workers, WHY NOT; thanks to BitShares 5.0, this wouldn't be a case when voters are locking their BTS.

I believe you should stop acting as if you were important to BitShares Organization and I believe "alt" should rethink his mind about you.

Be part of the change and set bitshares-vision as your proxy!
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Re: [Witness Proposal] blckchnd
« Reply #89 on: October 03, 2020, 07:09:07 pm »
We haven't seen

Who are we?
You are banker from the barn, with a law liquidity gateway, fanboy of Milos and Abit, go work on your liquidity 

Because RuDEX still here and even without shithole registration in Estonia our liquidity higher

There is no we, you represent just your big mouth
Don't bla bla bla, banker from the barn better work on your liquidity

I had witnessed myself
Words from the mouth of the dev with low ethics is worthless
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