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And another issue... I got this from the state of the network report

"In this weeks Bitshares Hangout, @kenCode and @onceuponatime have revealed that Bitshares Stealth utilizing CA (Confidential Assets) is in active development and should be seeing this tech hit the testnet in the next couple of months. Big thanks to @onceuponatime who has taken it upon himself to fund the remaining development of Stealth and ensure Ken and the team have the runway required to finalise the project."

Does this mean blockpay is not going to enjoy the benefits from stealth?

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Something else to note here... One of blockpays largest investors, in fact the largest investor prior to the OPENPOS dilution, has been significantly cutting their stake over the last couple days.

I'm not sure if info about blockpay is being posted anywhere... steemits bitshares-munich account has been silent for 2 months and  kencodes steemint has made no mention of anything either.

Couple that with todays price drop and things seem fishy...

Also, why the hell is the market fee to trade 2%?? That's crazy high...
« Last Edit: June 05, 2017, 03:25:31 am by lil_jay890 »

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Fair enough.  I took a shoot in the the dark in hope that you were. Glad to see that your very interested in stealth.
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I think your the guy @onceuponatime wanted to talk to.

I'm not constantin-ag, nor connected to him.  I also don't have any connection to Bitshares munich, or any of the principals involved. 

I am very interested in seeing stealth implemented in bitshares (or made easier to use), so I was  following Bitshares-munich's work on it.  I've also been actively involved in another community (unrelated to crypto or bitshares) where a con artist caused a lot of damage.  Therefore, the fact that the lead of the currently most active team working on stealth had multiple allegations of fraud against him (eplug, gun school) set off my alarm bells.
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Here's that previous discussion from 2 years ago for those who would rather read it than repeat it: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16071.msg206458.html#msg206458

Thanks, Troglodactyl!

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Not sure what to believe is going on here, but in the course of researching the issue, I found some interesting links to Ken's past:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2vqhsr/dont_give_ukencode_any_of_your_money/
http://archive.is/XBw1a

There were some very serious allegations being made on steemit (top reply to the "chris, where are you post" of his, if you're interested) as well.. I thought, and indeed started, writing an article asking for clarifications on all of that, but no matter how neutral I wanted it to read, it always read like a hit piece.. so I ended up not publishing it.

I am very curious about what ken has to say about the allegations. Hopefully he can clear the situation up..

super old news, and we investigated a lot of time and text here in the forums on ken already. how did you manage to ignore this?

life outside bitshares? :D

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Here's that previous discussion from 2 years ago for those who would rather read it than repeat it: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16071.msg206458.html#msg206458

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Thanks, karnal. Here's post in question:

https://steemit.com/news/@kenCode/chris4210-where-are-you#@constantin-ag/re-kencode-chris4210-where-are-you-20170505t103246301z

constantin-ag:

Kencode,

We have met in Munich a few weeks ago. Back then, I was very impressed by Christoph and his presentation during House of Nakamoto in Austria.

In fact, I had my money set up to invest in his company, BitShares Munich, and support it fully, with my time and my contacts,

Then, I met you.

In our first meeting, statements have been made by you that forced me to change my mind. Not only did you not accept any offer I have made to you with statements like "over my dead body", but you also insulted your business partners Christoph and Rodrigo while talking to me, a potential investor. This appeared to me as very unprofessional.

I still liked Christoph and wanted to support him and his business. We made our usual thorough background investigations.

For those that haven't done their due diligence, here some links and facts we have found:

http://archive.is/XBw1a
warrent in florida
international warrant

Also interesting to watch:

Gun School / Ken Silver SCAM Bonita Springs, FL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f191hnL4snU

Ken Silver / Gun School LCSO Range Proposal Goes Down in Flames
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC3R4Nf9piE

Gun School / Ken Silver Falsifies Better Business Bureau Credentials
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rxNRnSP6PQ

Ken Silver / Gun School Closes Amid State Criminal Fraud Investigation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J14umqpWU0

Still, because of my faith in Christoph, his plans and opportunities, the interest I have in the community and the ecosystem; I wanted to find a peaceful resolution through my lawyers to this and not create unnecessary drama. You were invited to multiple meetings over the last 6 weeks by your employer, you choose not to appear. Subsequently you leave us no alternatives but to confront your current malpractices. It is our every intention to protect current investors in Blockpay.

I think your the guy @onceuponatime wanted to talk to.
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super old news, and we investigated a lot of time and text here in the forums on ken already. how did you manage to ignore this?

I'm pretty new to Bitshares, so this is the first I'm finding out about the allegations regarding Ken's past.  A search of "Ken Silver" or "gun school" on the forums doesn't turn up anything except the post I just made.   Can you point me to a link of the discussion or suggest search terms for finding the previous discussion? 
« Last Edit: June 01, 2017, 12:40:33 pm by chamber »

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Thanks, karnal. Here's post in question:

https://steemit.com/news/@kenCode/chris4210-where-are-you#@constantin-ag/re-kencode-chris4210-where-are-you-20170505t103246301z

constantin-ag:

Kencode,

We have met in Munich a few weeks ago. Back then, I was very impressed by Christoph and his presentation during House of Nakamoto in Austria.

In fact, I had my money set up to invest in his company, BitShares Munich, and support it fully, with my time and my contacts,

Then, I met you.

In our first meeting, statements have been made by you that forced me to change my mind. Not only did you not accept any offer I have made to you with statements like "over my dead body", but you also insulted your business partners Christoph and Rodrigo while talking to me, a potential investor. This appeared to me as very unprofessional.

I still liked Christoph and wanted to support him and his business. We made our usual thorough background investigations.

For those that haven't done their due diligence, here some links and facts we have found:

http://archive.is/XBw1a
warrent in florida
international warrant

Also interesting to watch:

Gun School / Ken Silver SCAM Bonita Springs, FL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f191hnL4snU

Ken Silver / Gun School LCSO Range Proposal Goes Down in Flames
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC3R4Nf9piE

Gun School / Ken Silver Falsifies Better Business Bureau Credentials
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rxNRnSP6PQ

Ken Silver / Gun School Closes Amid State Criminal Fraud Investigation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J14umqpWU0

Still, because of my faith in Christoph, his plans and opportunities, the interest I have in the community and the ecosystem; I wanted to find a peaceful resolution through my lawyers to this and not create unnecessary drama. You were invited to multiple meetings over the last 6 weeks by your employer, you choose not to appear. Subsequently you leave us no alternatives but to confront your current malpractices. It is our every intention to protect current investors in Blockpay.

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Not sure what to believe is going on here, but in the course of researching the issue, I found some interesting links to Ken's past:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2vqhsr/dont_give_ukencode_any_of_your_money/
http://archive.is/XBw1a

There were some very serious allegations being made on steemit (top reply to the "chris, where are you post" of his, if you're interested) as well.. I thought, and indeed started, writing an article asking for clarifications on all of that, but no matter how neutral I wanted it to read, it always read like a hit piece.. so I ended up not publishing it.

I am very curious about what ken has to say about the allegations. Hopefully he can clear the situation up..

super old news, and we investigated a lot of time and text here in the forums on ken already. how did you manage to ignore this?

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Not sure what to believe is going on here, but in the course of researching the issue, I found some interesting links to Ken's past:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2vqhsr/dont_give_ukencode_any_of_your_money/
http://archive.is/XBw1a

There were some very serious allegations being made on steemit (top reply to the "chris, where are you post" of his, if you're interested) as well.. I thought, and indeed started, writing an article asking for clarifications on all of that, but no matter how neutral I wanted it to read, it always read like a hit piece.. so I ended up not publishing it.

I am very curious about what ken has to say about the allegations. Hopefully he can clear the situation up..

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"Even the CIA and the NSA can and have been hacked, I don't see much room for debate here. Backdoor access to cryptographic systems has always been and will always remain a stupendously bad idea."

Agree with Karnal.  If there are any backdoors, they will be used for nefarious purposes, whether by government or private individuals.  I would like to see Bitshares support anonymity and privacy by default, and in such a way that even if the developers of the code themselves were beaten with a rubber hose, they could not be compelled to give up any information about transactions on the Bitshares network.
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"Even the CIA and the NSA can and have been hacked, I don't see much room for debate here. Backdoor access to cryptographic systems has always been and will always remain a stupendously bad idea."

Agree with Karnal.  If there are any backdoors, they will be used for nefarious purposes, whether by government or private individuals.  I would like to see Bitshares support strong anonymity and privacy by default, such that even if the developers of the code themselves were being beaten to death with a rubber hose, they could not be compelled to give up any information about transactions on the Bitshares network. 
« Last Edit: June 01, 2017, 11:08:03 am by chamber »

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Not sure what to believe is going on here, but in the course of researching the issue, I found some interesting links to Ken's past:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2vqhsr/dont_give_ukencode_any_of_your_money/
http://archive.is/XBw1a
https://steemit.com/news/@kenCode/chris4210-where-are-you#@constantin-ag/re-kencode-chris4210-where-are-you-20170505t103246301z
« Last Edit: June 01, 2017, 11:12:04 am by chamber »