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Re: [ANN] Payger - Payment + Messenger
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2018, 11:04:59 pm »
Dear all, today I am very excited to announce the release of the Payger Wallet Alpha version as of May 21.05.2018.

We spent the last months heads down and developed the core back and front end features of the Payger Wallet. Payger Wallet is a redesigned and new web wallet for the BitShares blockchain. It marks the first element out of four of the Payger Ecosystem. If you want to convince yourself of the clarity and ease of use of the Payger Wallet, you can test the payment features exclusively in the alpha version.

I invite everyone to take part in the alpha testing group and help us to improve the platform. Those who are interested to help can register at the following link: https://bit.ly/2s2Rc0v

Here is a short reminder about Payger - the new digital web wallet for digital currencies

Payger is a combination of mobile payment and social media platform, which is characterized by a particularly simple usability. With Payger, digital currency trading is even easier now. Users can transfer money in seconds, trade bitcoin against ether, and manage multiple digital currencies at the same time.
Payger focuses on a user-friendly handling of the private keys and has developed its own comprehensive password recovery tool. Users can therefore not only view and export their private keys at any time; in addition, they have the option to reset their Payger user password and PIN. Via SMS and e-mail notifications, all account activities such as transactions, logins or password updates are always kept in view - Payger users always know what's happening in their account. The focus is on the comprehensive payment features: By means of the Payger Wallet, users can henceforth buy or sell digital currencies. In addition, Payger enables the sending and exchange of digital currencies. Payger users will soon be able to send invoices by e-mail and pay in digital currencies.

Current Payger Wallet Features:
  • Account Registration, including KYC
  • Deposit / Withdraw of Bitcoin, Ether, Dash, Litecoin, Steem, BitShares
  • Exchange of selected BitShares assets
  • Transfer of assets
  • Automatic notification for login, transfer, password change, etc.
  • Account recovery
  • Value stamping
  • Full transaction history export
  • Tax report export

For more information, feedback and our progress stay in touch with us on our telegram: https://t.me/payger

Also check out our website: www.payger.com
Stay up to date on Payger via our Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/PaygerHQ/
Follow Payger on Twitter: https://twitter.com/PaygerHQ.

 
Here are some screenshots from the Payger Wallet

Home


Exchange


Deposit
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Re: [ANN] Payger - Payment + Messenger
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2018, 06:45:25 pm »
Payger is a scam on Blockpay investors. Everyone reading this thread can verify that Christoph Hering is not giving due disclosure on the financials and corporate affairs. He ignores inquiries since last year. 430BTC from Blockpay disappeared, which is documented on the related Bitcointalk thread and from some leaks. That is only the tip of the iceberg...

Projects and individuals that scammed investors should be banned from Bitshares. More so if they seek important roles within the Bitshares community, like being committee member aspirants, public speakers and corporate lawyers.

What happened with Blockpay is killing the platform. There should be no excuse for that. Christoph Hering could have resolved the issues with Blockpay token holders last year, when he already agreed on a buyback that he later ignored. Instead he tries to weasel out  and embezzle the ICO funds. The money trail tells it all.
 
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Re: [ANN] Payger - Payment + Messenger
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2018, 07:48:13 pm »
He closes all public channels https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2804399.msg35187496#msg35187496 (that thread contains a lot of information about the Hering scammers.)

The Blockpay website, facebook, chat etc. was already deleted last year (with all that lies and phoney announcements.)

Payger being a rebranding of Blockpay is just another lie. It is a legally different entity, another token, and where any commitment is carefully avoided.
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Re: [ANN] Payger - Payment + Messenger
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2018, 11:50:46 pm »

No funds have been stolen and we are transparent with our spendings and development roadmap.

More info are available at:
* www.payger.com
* www.medium.com/@payger
* www.telegram.me/payger

This is a typical response from this notorious liar and fraudster.

He is not transparent with his spendings, and no meaningful roadmap exists.

Just in case there is a "misunderstanding", Dr. Wolfgang Hering: Make clear what you mean by defamation, as that is what you ordered a law firm to take action.

Now more funds are disappearing, just a few days ago:

https://cryptofresh.com/u/echo1

So where is the transparency for that, did you tell shit again??

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Re: [ANN] Payger - Payment + Messenger
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2018, 06:31:39 pm »

No funds have been stolen and we are transparent with our spendings and development roadmap.

More info are available at:
* www.payger.com
* www.medium.com/@payger
* www.telegram.me/payger

This is a typical response from this notorious liar and fraudster.

He is not transparent with his spendings, and no meaningful roadmap exists.

Just in case there is a "misunderstanding", Dr. Wolfgang Hering: Make clear what you mean by defamation, as that is what you ordered a law firm to take action.

Now more funds are disappearing, just a few days ago:

https://cryptofresh.com/u/echo1

So where is the transparency for that, did you tell shit again??

No good developer works for free. With Payger we created a professional team of senior developers who are currently developing the Payger Wallet, API, Merchant services and more. That costs money. The Payger Wallet v1 is live and running and is a new user-friendly wallet using the BitShares Blockchain. Give it a try and test for yourself what we are building. It is worth it.
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Re: [ANN] Payger - Payment + Messenger
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2018, 05:40:50 pm »

No good developer works for free. With Payger we created a professional team of senior developers who are currently developing the Payger Wallet, API, Merchant services and more. That costs money. The Payger Wallet v1 is live and running and is a new user-friendly wallet using the BitShares Blockchain. Give it a try and test for yourself what we are building. It is worth it.

Some time ago in 2017 you said that developers will be announced the next weeks...

But, you are distracting from the core issues, like always.

Payger is a scam on Blockpay investors. You were stealing the major part of those funds together with Ken Code, and with the help of your lawyer dad.

Don't try to allude that costs for Payger are in relation to the disappeared pre-ICO funds.

You and your dad won't get away with that...

You will get another tax charge soon...
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Re: [ANN] Payger - Payment + Messenger
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2018, 08:05:09 pm »

No good developer works for free. With Payger we created a professional team of senior developers who are currently developing the Payger Wallet, API, Merchant services and more. That costs money. The Payger Wallet v1 is live and running and is a new user-friendly wallet using the BitShares Blockchain. Give it a try and test for yourself what we are building. It is worth it.

Some time ago in 2017 you said that developers will be announced the next weeks...

But, you are distracting from the core issues, like always.

Payger is a scam on Blockpay investors. You were stealing the major part of those funds together with Ken Code, and with the help of your lawyer dad.

Don't try to allude that costs for Payger are in relation to the disappeared pre-ICO funds.

You and your dad won't get away with that...

You will get another tax charge soon...

Your answers show me that you did not try wallet.payger.com yet. Payger is not a scam and I did not steal any funds. Your accusations are wrong. Also no pre-ico funds have disappeared. I am building what was announced in 2016 in the pre-ico and everyone can go to www.payger.com and see the results of my work.
Stop spreading wrong accusations, your statements are wrong sunbear.
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Re: [ANN] Payger - Payment + Messenger
« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2018, 04:35:36 pm »

Your answers show me that you did not try wallet.payger.com yet. Payger is not a scam and I did not steal any funds. Your accusations are wrong. Also no pre-ico funds have disappeared. I am building what was announced in 2016 in the pre-ico and everyone can go to www.payger.com and see the results of my work.
Stop spreading wrong accusations, your statements are wrong sunbear.

I had told you before that I am not interested in Payger.

Payger is a scam on Blockpay token holders (read what I wrote and do not reply inaccurately), it is a different legal entity and a different token http://cryptofresh.com/a/PAYGER . Payger is not a rebranding of Blockpay as you were trying to allude. Payger is an exit scam on Blockpay token holders, where you attempt to conceal the various embezzlement that occurred with Blockpay pre-ICO funds by using a different entity from Blockpay.

You refused any affirmation concerning the Blockpay token. The Blockpay token is defunct by now. Then you told something that in Q4 there will be a statement about the token. Notwithstanding that you violate provisions under German law by not giving due information for a security that you illegally sold, you either attempt to coerce Blockpay token holders into accepting the different entity Payger or declare insolvency on Payger. These are only two typical scenarios, what you are doing falls into the realm of corporate fraud where there are varieties of such schemes.
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Re: [ANN] Payger - Payment + Messenger
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2018, 04:08:01 pm »
On Apr. 19, 2017 Christoph Hering declared that Blockpay has reserves of 540 BTC.



Shortly thereafter he disappeared, and the BTC accounts were mostly empty.

https://steemit.com/news/@kencode/chris4210-where-are-you

... If that is true, then where is all that money?! I see you have been recently taking out hundreds of thousands of dollars, where did all that money go?!
https://blockchain.info/address/37jDFfS9WJEPL33YivJbnjfQQNU5RjFWFY


All internals of Blockpay were assuming he made the run with the money https://soundcloud.com/beyond-bitcoin-hangouts/bitshares-open-source-hangout-25-2017-06-16 . He did not tell anyone from within Blockpay what happened with the funds.

He never gave a meaningful response on that issue up to now.

On Oct. 22, 2017 he declared that 110 BTC were left https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1587349.msg23349660#msg23349660 (actually it was more like 80 BTC at that time).

Concerning Payger he said on Bitcointalk through one of his fake profiles "pie777" something like all remaining funds will be used off upon start of Payger. Posts from that profile were deleted in the meanwhile.




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Re: [ANN] Payger - Payment + Messenger
« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2018, 03:49:13 pm »

No funds have been stolen and we are transparent with our spendings and development roadmap.


Please everybody take notice of this fraudster! He is a notorious liar. There is a litany of phony announcements, misrepresentation and blatant lies from him. The list is at least 7 pages long.

Note: Whenever he is reminded on Blockpay all he does is replying on Payger, however he refuses any affirmation on the Blockpay token.

The Herings should get banned from Bitshares. These scammers certainly will attempt another ICO for Payger, or rip off investors in direct dealings.

Don't give them any money!!!
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Re: [ANN] Payger - Payment + Messenger
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2018, 05:52:02 pm »
There are only announcements about Payger, and nothing is backed up with anything. No developers are mentioned (though Christoph Hering said in Sep. 2017 they will be introduced the next weeks), there are countless contradictions in the scant comments he gave in the development newsletters (he doesn't even post those newsletters on the Payger one-page website other than sending it to Blockpay token holders), he lied about Payger being a rebranding of Blockpay (in fact it is a change of the corporate and ownership structure, with his lawyer dad pulling the strings), and he doesn't say anything about the whereabouts of the large part of the pre-ICO Blockpay funds (while there is evidence he has them on his private accounts).

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« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2018, 07:51:21 pm »
Who is Emma Lee, and why does she post a bunch of incoherent posts that push certain threads further down in the list. The post from above was copied from the Bitcointalk forum, it is not from him/her!

Here is a recent video from Christoph Hering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H2TFBFKbJo

He totally leaves out Blockpay in all of his recent presentations. He fakes his Linkedin in a sense that Payger exists since 2015 https://www.linkedin.com/in/christophhering/ . His past with Bitshares Munich/Blockpay gets ignored, the Blockpay token is defunct and the remaining funds are in his sole possession.

Allegedly there are 45,460 people following Payger on facebook https://www.facebook.com/PaygerHQ/ . Most probably this comes from paid PR for that he uses an advertising company in Hamburg (paid with the stolen money). The Payger forum is empty https://forum.payger.com/ , no real persons are  interested in it.

Payger is about hot air. It is at most a central server hosted website that connects to some APIs that can be done cheaply and easily.

Don't give this fraudster any money when he tries to raise more!!!


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Re: [ANN] Payger - Payment + Messenger
« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2018, 09:42:36 am »
Here is a recent video from Christoph Hering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H2TFBFKbJo

That is a great find. Thank you sunbear. I visited the Shanghai conference with my two colleagues Oliver and Paulo and it was a lot of fun to meet so many great people from the BitShares community there. As you can see in the presentation and at our website Payger is real and online. Since you do not give Payger a try, I have to questions your statements about Payger here.

I am also looking forward to meeting you all at BitFest in Amsterdam this year. @sunbear why do you not come over too? Would love to answer your open questions face to face.
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« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2018, 07:45:05 pm »
I am also looking forward to meeting you all at BitFest in Amsterdam this year. @sunbear why do you not come over too? Would love to answer your open questions face to face.

Every response from you is distracting and ignoring the open questions that are pending since last year at least. Just to remind you on a few points, where is the transparency on Blockpay funds, where is the copy of the Escrow contract (and/or its later amendments), where is a response on the status of the Blockpay token (note that you had sold a security under the law).

Maybe you succeeded in paying off and silencing some others who you had deceived, it is documented that your lawyer dad made such attempts.

Your ongoing fraud must be stopped. If you are not operating a legitimate crypto project and (can) provide the due disclosures and information, then it will come from other sides. This will include more and systematic efforts in order to warn anybody who is or might be dealing with you.
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« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2018, 11:14:01 pm »
...more from Christoph Hering

The same company Echo Industries GmbH that was named to be behind Payger is also in charge of BlockBeats.

For Oct. 15-16 a conference was planned with alleged +60 speakers, +40 exhibitors and +1300 visitors. https://web.archive.org/web/20180628021129/https://block-beats.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYS3SNxyNTk

Now that same scam event is cancelled, because "... there are just not enough matured and real products on the market yet, so we decided to postpone the BlockBeats conference to next year".

https://block-beats.com/
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