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[Worker Proposal] 201906 Bitshares Mobile App Proposal
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BitShares Mobile 2019 Worker Proposal

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Proposal: 201906-bitshares-mobile-app
ID: 1.14.198


GitHub: https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-mobile-app

GooglePlay: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.bitshares.app

Website installation link: https://app.btspp.io

Overview
This is the 12-month worker budget proposal for the BitShares Mobile team from 2019 to 2020.
After five months, our first phase of work has ended, and the merger of the open source code repository has been completed. Currently, the project is hosted under the official bitshares account.
BitShares Mobile Code Library
All fucntions developed by the worker will be open source and can be found in the above code base.
As a community open source project, we will enrich the BitShares system mechanism and hope to collect more suggestions so that we can understand the more real needs of users.

Goal
● Perform daily maintenance of BitShares Mobile, add and upgrade features.
● Improve the BitShares system mechanism to expand and balance the ecology.
● Improve the transaction activity of users by perfecting more transaction types and establish a long-term stable balance-of-payment system for BitShares.
● Strengthen communication and collaboration with core community teams.

Development task

Basic functions
● Optimize the design of the existing version
● Optimization of the operation and adjustment of the mortgage interface
● Increase account lock button and registration password security level
● Add account permission modification function, which can modify and add management to the private key and multi-sign of the account.
● Add mnemonics, scan code login method
● Optimize the presentation of the description and prompt interface content, making it more reasonable and simple to understand. Add color with the position of the corrected display
● Communicate with the community to meet the needs of the BitShares website, download and install BitShares Mobile
● Adjust the details of the account record information, use color to distinguish, you can click the account jump and other functions to improve the convenience of operation
● Product features and help files are placed on Github and a rewards task is released for more language translations
● Added homepage interface for displaying news and major asset fluctuations
● Optimize the list of market assets, sort by transaction depth based on transaction volume
● Synchronous Core Team Feature Update
● Access community news and synchronize community forum addresses to enhance communication possibilities between users and the community
● More gateway integration, such as openledger.

Innovation functions
If the community has no other priority needs, we will work according to the following content, and we do not rule out the possibility of unknown needs. ((Note: The btspp team cannot promise that the following features will be fully implemented and may be adjusted for community requirements and core team progress.)
● Communicate with the core team to complete P2P lending module
  ● Increased p2p lending and lending capabilities
● Super community gateway
● Cold wallet
  ● Offline transfer
● Security
  ● Black and white list limit and reminder
  ● Fingerprint unlock
● Synchronous update of HTLC and atomic technology
● Creation and management of assets
● OTC trading
  ● fiat currency direct purchase and sale of assets

Budget
● This proposal will provide BitShares Mobile with 12 months of development and operation and maintenance costs.
● The work proposal will start from 2019.6.10 and will end at 2020.6.9 for a period of 12 months and 366 days.
● Worker wage calculation will be referred to coinmarketcap BTS/USD price, BTS will be settled
● The worker proposal will be managed by the multi-signature account mobileapp-worker-escrow, which consists of board members abit, jademont and core team coordinator Fox.
● All unexpired BTS will be returned to the reserve or incorporated into subsequent work funds
● Depending on the price fluctuations of the BTS, we may consider prematurely terminating the budget or lowering the daily budget amount to ensure that more workers are eligible for funding.

1. Main development part of the budget

RoleMembersFees(USD/h)Hours/Weeks
Full Stack DeveloperXIAO XIA$ 12020 hours
Android DeveloperQING FENG$ 10015 hours
CoordinatorDigcat$ 706 hours
DesignerYANG MING$ 7015 hours
Product ManagerXIAO XIA$ 805 hours
QA /TestingYANG MING$ 606 hours
TranslationBounty Mission$ 602 hours
Weekly budget$ 6250
Total budget$ 326,785


2. OTC cooperation development part of the budget

OTC ModuleMembersFees(USD/h)Hours/Weeks
OTC Server EngineerJie$ 10018 hours (10 weeks)
OTC PMMason$ 8010 hours (10 weeks)
Total 10 weeks total$ 26000



3. Budget for others

ContentAmount
Operating cost$ 9100/year
Total$ 9100


4. The final budget. Calculated according to the price of 2019.5.23 according to the depreciation coefficient

Total Budget(USD)Daily Budget(USD)Depreciation coefficientBitShares priceDaily Budget(BTS)
$ 361,885$ 989 1.50.06 USD989 / 0.06 * 1.5 = 24725 BTS

Team member introduction

XiaoXia: Founder of BTS++. over 10 years of experience in Internet product development. Basic knowledge, proficient, good at C, C++, Ruby, etc. In-depth research on blockchains, servers, clients, game engines, interpreters, virtual machines, AI, etc.
Responsible for the development of the BTS ++ communication protocol layer and the development of iOS.

QingFeng: Core developer. over 10 years of technical research and development experience. Experienced client and web development, specializing in network architecture, front-end and back-end development, Android development and smart contract development.
Responsible for the development of Android client and website.

YingMing: Co-founder. Years of marketing experience, focusing on user experience. Responsible for product design, testing, feedback, and daily operations.

Digcat: Coordinator. Extensive experience in data mining and requirements analysis.

Jie: Backend development engineer. Former Baidu senior engineer, many years of back-end architecture design and R&D experience. Responsible for the design and development of technical solutions for the OTC platform.

Mason: Product Manager. 10 years of project management and product design experience. Engaged in product design of the drone software platform, blockchain software and hardware wallet product design, enterprise-level blockchain solution design. Responsible for the overall product design of the OTC OTC trading platform.
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Re: [Worker Proposal] 201906 Bitshares Mobile App Proposal
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2019, 02:08:39 am »
BitShares Mobile 2019 工作提案

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提案名: 201906-bitshares-mobile-app
提案ID: 1.14.198


GitHub: https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-mobile-app

GooglePlay: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.bitshares.app

网站安装链接: https://app.btspp.io


概述
这是BitShares Mobile团队2019年-2020年为期12个月的工作预算提案。 经过五个月的时间我们第一期的工作已经结束,并且完成了开源代码仓库的合并,目前项目托管在BitShares官方组织账号下。 BitShares Mobile代码库 所有worker所开发的功能都将开源并在上述代码库中可查。 作为社区的开源项目,我们将丰富BitShares系统机制,希望能够收集更多的建议以便我们能了解用户更真实的需求。

目标
进行BitShares Mobile的日常维护,功能的增加和升级。
完善BitShares系统机制,扩大及平衡生态。
通过完善更多的交易类型,提升用户交易活跃度,建立BitShares长期稳定的收支平衡系统。
加强与社区核心团队的沟通和协作。

工作内容
● 针对优化添加的基础功能
● 优化现有版本的设计
● 抵押界面的操作和调整方式优化
● 增加账号锁定按钮及注册密码安全等级
● 增加账号权限修改功能,可对于账号的私钥和多签进行修改和添加管理。
● 增加助记词,扫码登录的方式
● 优化关于说明和提示界面内容的表述,目标使其更合理和简单,便于理解。同时配合修正显示的位置增加颜色
● 与社区沟通满足需求后上架BitShares网站,提供下载安装BitShares Mobile
● 调整账号记录信息细节部分,用颜色区分,可点选账号跳转等功能提升操作便利性
● 产品功能和帮助文档放入Github并发布赏金任务,进行更多语言的翻译
● 增加用于显示新闻及主要资产涨跌的主页界面
● 优化行情资产列表,根据交易量,交易深度优先排序
● 同步Core团队功能更新
● 接入社区新闻并同步社区论坛地址,加强用户与社区之间的沟通可能性
● 增加集成社区网关openledger

创新功能
如社区没有其他优先需求的前提下我们会按照以下内容工作,不排除可能出现未知的需求。(注:btspp团队无法承诺下列功能完全实施,可能会根据社区需求和core团队进度进行调整。)
● 同核心团队沟通协作完成P2P借贷功能
 ● 增加p2p出借与借贷的功能
● 超级社区网关
● 冷钱包
 ● 离线转账
● 安全保护
 ● 黑白名单限制,提醒
 ● 指纹解锁
● HTLC和原子技术的同步更新
● 资产的发型和管理
● OTC场外交易
 ● 法币直接买卖数字资产

预算
● 本提案将为BitShares Mobile提供12个月的开发及运营维护的费用
● 工作提案将从2019.6.10开始,直到2020.6.9结束,为期12个月,366天
● 工人工资计算将参 coinmarketcap BTS/USD 的价格,发放BTS进行结算
项目预算将由理事会成员abit,jademont以及核心团队协调员Fox组成的多签账号:mobile-worker-escrow 进行管理。
● 所有未被支出的 BTS 将会退还至储备库或并入后续的工作资金
● 根据BTS的价格波动,我们可能会考虑提前终止预算或者降低每日预算金额,以确保更多的worker能给获得资助。

1.主开发部分预算

角色成员费用(USD /小时)小时/周
全栈开发人员XIAO XIA$ 12020 小时
Android开发者QING FENG$ 10015 小时
协调员Digcat$ 706 小时
设计师YANG MING$ 7015 小时
产品经理XIAO XIA$ 805 小时
QA /测试YANG MING$ 606 小时
多语言翻译赏金任务$ 602 小时
每周预算$ 6250
预算总额$ 326,785
   
2.OTC合作开发部分预算

OTC合作功能开发成员费用(USD /小时)小时/周
OTC后端开发Jie$ 10018小时(10周)
OTC产品经理Mason$ 8010小时(10周)
10周预算总额$ 26000

3.运营预算

内容费用
运营费用$ 9100/年
合计$ 9100

4.最终预算。根据 2019.5.23 的价格按照贬值系数计算
总预算(USD)每日预算(USD)贬值系数BitShares价格每日预算(BTS)
$ 361,885$ 989 1.50.06 USD989 / 0.06 * 1.5 = 24725 BTS


团队成员介绍
XiaoXia:BTS++的创始人。十多年互联网产品开发经验。基础知识扎实,精通,擅长C,C++,Ruby等的开发。对区块链,服务器,客户端,游戏引擎,解释器,虚拟机,AI等进行了深入的研究。 负责BTS++通信协议层的开发和iOS的开发。

QingFeng:核心开发者。十多年技术研发经验。经验丰富的客户和网站开发,擅长网络结构,前端和后端开发,Android开发和智能合约开发。 负责Android客户端和网站的开发。

YingMing:联合创始人。多年营销经验,注重用户体验。负责产品的设计,测试,收集意见反馈以及日常运营工作。

Digcat:协调员。丰富的数据挖掘和需求分析经验。

Jie:后端开发工程师。前百度高级工程师,多年后端架构设计和研发经验。负责OTC平台技术方案设计与研发。

Mason:产品经理。10年项目管理、产品设计经验。从事过无人机软件平台的产品设计、区块链软硬件钱包产品设计、企业级区块链解决方案设计等。负责OTC场外交易平台的总体产品设计。
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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2019, 03:52:30 am »
Will this APP be available in the apple store?

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« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2019, 04:24:31 am »
Will this APP be available in the apple store?

We will also actively communicate with bitshares.org. I hope that I can go online with the appstore through the official website. Currently you can install it at the following address: https://app.btspp.io
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A little expensive.

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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2019, 07:07:51 am »
+5% +5% +5%

" fiat currency direct purchase and sale of assets"

Same as MagicW doing BitCNY<--> RMB or for different currency like USD/EUR/GBP?
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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2019, 05:33:56 am »
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" fiat currency direct purchase and sale of assets"

Same as MagicW doing BitCNY<--> RMB or for different currency like USD/EUR/GBP?
We will provide a perfect platform and interface, which will start from CNY in the early stage, and be added according to market demand in the future.
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2019, 07:00:50 am »
+5% +5% +5%

" fiat currency direct purchase and sale of assets"

Same as MagicW doing BitCNY<--> RMB or for different currency like USD/EUR/GBP?
We will provide a perfect platform and interface, which will start from CNY in the early stage, and be added according to market demand in the future.

Will the deposit and withdrawal have any fees for that, or what is the mechanism? Will your super gateway, p2p lending or OTC module contain any fees? If so, will those fees benefit the community?

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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2019, 02:53:40 am »
+5% +5% +5%

" fiat currency direct purchase and sale of assets"

Same as MagicW doing BitCNY<--> RMB or for different currency like USD/EUR/GBP?
We will provide a perfect platform and interface, which will start from CNY in the early stage, and be added according to market demand in the future.

Will the deposit and withdrawal have any fees for that, or what is the mechanism? Will your super gateway, p2p lending or OTC module contain any fees? If so, will those fees benefit the community?
The otc fiat currency gateway is set by the service provider. We only offer product integration. P2p loan details may be pushed with existing bsip. The super gateway is agreed by all relevant operators.
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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2019, 04:59:00 am »
 Who are the service providers in all cases you are looking to integrate?

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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2019, 05:01:15 am »
Who are the service providers in all cases you are looking to integrate?
The Chinese community is probably the GDEX gateway. If there are any other regional gateways that deploy the fiat gateway, we will also consider integration.
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2019, 10:50:07 am »
Updated the content of the project budget account. Added core team coordinator Fox as a multi-sign management account for the project budget.
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更新了关于项目预算账户内容。增加了核心团队协调员Fox作为项目预算多签管理账户。
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为什么网上报价全新建,价格也都在万元级别,而你们却要百万级别的维护费?

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« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2019, 02:20:02 am »
I believe the team is very good, they made a great mobile wallet.
But depends on the high bugget, what I  concern more is how many users use this wallet as their main wallet now.
I suugest you provide some marketing analysis.
and did you made some custom survey about if this wallet can provide most functions they want?

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« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2019, 03:03:18 am »
I believe the team is very good, they made a great mobile wallet.
But depends on the high bugget, what I  concern more is how many users use this wallet as their main wallet now.
I suugest you provide some marketing analysis.
and did you made some custom survey about if this wallet can provide most functions they want?
对我来说现在唯一欠缺的功能就是鼓鼓钱包出入金功能了,所以现在我不得使用两个手机钱包,平时用这个钱包很流畅,但要出入金的时候还是得用鼓鼓。

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« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2019, 03:37:44 am »
唯一支持钱包模式的app

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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2019, 06:05:43 am »
I believe the team is very good, they made a great mobile wallet.
But depends on the high bugget, what I  concern more is how many users use this wallet as their main wallet now.
I suugest you provide some marketing analysis.
and did you made some custom survey about if this wallet can provide most functions they want?

In the current bear market, our total number of users is around 2,000, and the daily activity is around 500.

Yes, we have collected some user needs and made adjustments in our previous work.

1. Improvements have increased the display content of the proposal, allowing users to more intuitively understand the content of the proposal they are working on.
2, optimized the issue of the decimal point display and use of the Polish language
3, added a shield on the blacklist proposal
4, increased risk warning for important proposal content
5, according to user feedback, added a more professional k line

The first phase of the function is to develop and improve some of the basic functions of BitShares for existing community users, and hope to make more details and experience adjustments. We don't want to give users a bad impression because of some experience or lack of function, so that they give up using it, and even negate the entire function of BitShares as dex.
We will increase and promote its exposure more in the preparation of the first phase, and as the community's open source money we will promote the conditions for downloading at bitshares.org.

At the same time, we will prioritize the development of the following functions in the second phase of the work plan based on the current user needs collected.

1, over-the-counter trading (acceptance system)
2, the design of p2p function is also developed
3, scan code login
4, add more gateway services

At the graphene conference in July, we will have deep communication with the community members attending the meeting to collect the demand and make corresponding increase and optimization.
After that, we will collect and publish the work plan content in the forum from time to time.

BitShares is a global community, and an easy-to-use open source mobile wallet is needed by the market and users. We call on community members and users around the world to give us feedback and suggestions. Our target service group is not only the existing 100w users in the community, but also more incremental users in the future. We need a good user experience and word of mouth. To gain trust and recognition, this is not just about BitShares Mobile's market evaluation of BitShares as DEX. We hope to take this responsibility and work hard for it.
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在目前熊市的市场,我们的用户总数在2000左右,日活跃500左右。

是的,我们在之前的工作中已经收集部分用户需求并作出调整

1,改善增加了提案的显示内容,使用户更直观的了解自己所操作的提案内容。
2,优化了关于波兰语言小数点显示及使用问题
3,增加了关于黑名单提案的屏蔽
4,对于重要的提案内容增加了风险提示
5,根据用户反馈增加了更专业的k线

第一期的功能我们更多的是针对现有社区用户开发并完善BitShares的一些基础功能,并希望更多做出细节和体验上的调整。我们不想因为一些体验或功能欠缺的问题给用户带来不好的印象以至于放弃使用,甚至连带否定了BitShares作为dex的整个功能。
在完成第一阶段的准备工作我们将会更多的增加及推广其曝光度,同时作为社区的开源钱我们将推进使其具备可在bitshares.org下载的条件。

同时我们将在第二期的工作计划中根据目前所收集的用户需求优先考虑开发以下功能

1,场外交易(承兑系统)
2,p2p功能的设计也开发
3,扫码登录
4,增加更多的网关服务

7月的石墨烯大会我们会与赴会的社区成员深度交流收集需求,并做出相应的增加和优化
在之后我们将不定期的收集并在论坛公开工作计划内容

BitShares是一个全球化的社区,一个易用开源的移动钱包是市场和用户所需要的。我们呼吁全球的社区成员和用户能够给我们反馈问题和建议,我们的目标服务群体的不仅是社区现有的100w用户,还有未来更多增量的用户,我们需要良好的用户体验及口碑来获得信任和认可,这并不是只关乎BitShares Mobile更关乎于整个 BitShares 作为 DEX 的市场评价,我们希望能承担这一责任做好并为之长期奋斗。
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« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2019, 06:09:30 am »
I believe the team is very good, they made a great mobile wallet.
But depends on the high bugget, what I  concern more is how many users use this wallet as their main wallet now.
I suugest you provide some marketing analysis.
and did you made some custom survey about if this wallet can provide most functions they want?
对我来说现在唯一欠缺的功能就是鼓鼓钱包出入金功能了,所以现在我不得使用两个手机钱包,平时用这个钱包很流畅,但要出入金的时候还是得用鼓鼓。
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« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2019, 06:11:01 am »
I believe the team is very good, they made a great mobile wallet.
But depends on the high bugget, what I  concern more is how many users use this wallet as their main wallet now.
I suugest you provide some marketing analysis.
and did you made some custom survey about if this wallet can provide most functions they want?
对我来说现在唯一欠缺的功能就是鼓鼓钱包出入金功能了,所以现在我不得使用两个手机钱包,平时用这个钱包很流畅,但要出入金的时候还是得用鼓鼓。
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可以解释下为什么预算超出众包平台报价100倍吗?

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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2019, 06:12:27 am »
我挺支持改进app的,只是不希望大家把worker当提款机。
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« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2019, 07:09:38 am »
I believe the team is very good, they made a great mobile wallet.
But depends on the high bugget, what I  concern more is how many users use this wallet as their main wallet now.
I suugest you provide some marketing analysis.
and did you made some custom survey about if this wallet can provide most functions they want?
对我来说现在唯一欠缺的功能就是鼓鼓钱包出入金功能了,所以现在我不得使用两个手机钱包,平时用这个钱包很流畅,但要出入金的时候还是得用鼓鼓。
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很快这将得到解决,你会发现我们的工作中已经针对计划了。

可以解释下为什么预算超出众包平台报价100倍吗?
我很希望我能回答你的问题,不过我想我们可能讨论的并不是同一类产品。

1.BitShares Mobile是根据采用石墨烯底层原生开发的移动钱包
2.针对BTS作为DEX及特殊功能和用户需求针对开发的产品
3.固定专业并熟悉BTS的团队
4.提供长期稳定的功能开发及专业维护
5.参与到BTS社区的生态和发展中,以获取市场和用户解需求并作出调整
6.专业团队的全职工作

或许你应该更多的去了解你所指的的钱包和BitShares Mobile工作提案的内容和产品的区别,同时我并不认为你所指的外包服务可以满足用户需求并得到信任。拼多多和专卖店一样吗?我希望社区有更多像你一样积极的参与者,能给出更多意见与监督。
当然这些都是严谨或专业的。
希望有解答你的疑问 :)
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Re: [Worker Proposal] 201906 Bitshares Mobile App Proposal
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2019, 07:39:06 am »
I believe the team is very good, they made a great mobile wallet.
But depends on the high bugget, what I  concern more is how many users use this wallet as their main wallet now.
I suugest you provide some marketing analysis.
and did you made some custom survey about if this wallet can provide most functions they want?
对我来说现在唯一欠缺的功能就是鼓鼓钱包出入金功能了,所以现在我不得使用两个手机钱包,平时用这个钱包很流畅,但要出入金的时候还是得用鼓鼓。
[/quote
很快这将得到解决,你会发现我们的工作中已经针对计划了。

可以解释下为什么预算超出众包平台报价100倍吗?
我很希望我能回答你的问题,不过我想我们可能讨论的并不是同一类产品。

1.BitShares Mobile是根据采用石墨烯底层原生开发的移动钱包
2.针对BTS作为DEX及特殊功能和用户需求针对开发的产品
3.固定专业并熟悉BTS的团队
4.提供长期稳定的功能开发及专业维护
5.参与到BTS社区的生态和发展中,以获取市场和用户解需求并作出调整
6.专业团队的全职工作

或许你应该更多的去了解你所指的的钱包和BitShares Mobile工作提案的内容和产品的区别,同时我并不认为你所指的外包服务可以满足用户需求并得到信任。拼多多和专卖店一样吗?我希望社区有更多像你一样积极的参与者,能给出更多意见与监督。
当然这些都是严谨或专业的。
希望有解答你的疑问 :)

我也有咨询我身边做app的朋友。对于一个活跃度还只有500的app,年度维护费用要几百万,如果我是老板,确实不会买单。
如果你们愿意把预算降低到50万以内,再单独提交根据日活数据获取社区奖励的提案,我会更加乐意支持你们。
建议你们不仅限于做一个app的维护,单纯的技术不值钱。

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Re: [Worker Proposal] 201906 Bitshares Mobile App Proposal
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2019, 07:41:38 am »
I believe the team is very good, they made a great mobile wallet.
But depends on the high bugget, what I  concern more is how many users use this wallet as their main wallet now.
I suugest you provide some marketing analysis.
and did you made some custom survey about if this wallet can provide most functions they want?
对我来说现在唯一欠缺的功能就是鼓鼓钱包出入金功能了,所以现在我不得使用两个手机钱包,平时用这个钱包很流畅,但要出入金的时候还是得用鼓鼓。
[/quote
很快这将得到解决,你会发现我们的工作中已经针对计划了。

可以解释下为什么预算超出众包平台报价100倍吗?
我很希望我能回答你的问题,不过我想我们可能讨论的并不是同一类产品。

1.BitShares Mobile是根据采用石墨烯底层原生开发的移动钱包
2.针对BTS作为DEX及特殊功能和用户需求针对开发的产品
3.固定专业并熟悉BTS的团队
4.提供长期稳定的功能开发及专业维护
5.参与到BTS社区的生态和发展中,以获取市场和用户解需求并作出调整
6.专业团队的全职工作

或许你应该更多的去了解你所指的的钱包和BitShares Mobile工作提案的内容和产品的区别,同时我并不认为你所指的外包服务可以满足用户需求并得到信任。拼多多和专卖店一样吗?我希望社区有更多像你一样积极的参与者,能给出更多意见与监督。
当然这些都是严谨或专业的。
希望有解答你的疑问 :)

我也有咨询我身边做app的朋友。对于一个活跃度还只有500的app,年度维护费用要几百万,如果我是老板,确实不会买单。
如果你们愿意把预算降低到50万以内,再单独提交根据日活数据获取社区奖励的提案,我会更加乐意支持你们。
建议你们不仅限于做一个app的维护,单纯的技术不值钱。
感谢 :)
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Re: [Worker Proposal] 201906 Bitshares Mobile App Proposal
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2019, 02:39:36 am »
do you mean account number or device number? I ask this because many users maybe have multi accounts.
From the reply, seems the basic function is ready already, I prefer to develop more marketing.
And we need more suggest from users to improve the software.

for example, the blacklist function is very confuse me.
As I known almost all bank app use whitelist to avoid account name accident,
so why do you decide to use blacklist instead of whtelist?

In the current bear market, our total number of users is around 2,000, and the daily activity is around 500.

Yes, we have collected some user needs and made adjustments in our previous work.

1. Improvements have increased the display content of the proposal, allowing users to more intuitively understand the content of the proposal they are working on.
2, optimized the issue of the decimal point display and use of the Polish language
3, added a shield on the blacklist proposal
4, increased risk warning for important proposal content
5, according to user feedback, added a more professional k line

The first phase of the function is to develop and improve some of the basic functions of BitShares for existing community users, and hope to make more details and experience adjustments. We don't want to give users a bad impression because of some experience or lack of function, so that they give up using it, and even negate the entire function of BitShares as dex.
We will increase and promote its exposure more in the preparation of the first phase, and as the community's open source money we will promote the conditions for downloading at bitshares.org.

At the same time, we will prioritize the development of the following functions in the second phase of the work plan based on the current user needs collected.

1, over-the-counter trading (acceptance system)
2, the design of p2p function is also developed
3, scan code login
4, add more gateway services

At the graphene conference in July, we will have deep communication with the community members attending the meeting to collect the demand and make corresponding increase and optimization.
After that, we will collect and publish the work plan content in the forum from time to time.

BitShares is a global community, and an easy-to-use open source mobile wallet is needed by the market and users. We call on community members and users around the world to give us feedback and suggestions. Our target service group is not only the existing 100w users in the community, but also more incremental users in the future. We need a good user experience and word of mouth. To gain trust and recognition, this is not just about BitShares Mobile's market evaluation of BitShares as DEX. We hope to take this responsibility and work hard for it.

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« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2019, 03:14:42 am »
do you mean account number or device number? I ask this because many users maybe have multi accounts.
From the reply, seems the basic function is ready already, I prefer to develop more marketing.
And we need more suggest from users to improve the software.

for example, the blacklist function is very confuse me.
As I known almost all bank app use whitelist to avoid account name accident,
so why do you decide to use blacklist instead of whtelist?

In the current bear market, our total number of users is around 2,000, and the daily activity is around 500.

Yes, we have collected some user needs and made adjustments in our previous work.

1. Improvements have increased the display content of the proposal, allowing users to more intuitively understand the content of the proposal they are working on.
2, optimized the issue of the decimal point display and use of the Polish language
3, added a shield on the blacklist proposal
4, increased risk warning for important proposal content
5, according to user feedback, added a more professional k line

The first phase of the function is to develop and improve some of the basic functions of BitShares for existing community users, and hope to make more details and experience adjustments. We don't want to give users a bad impression because of some experience or lack of function, so that they give up using it, and even negate the entire function of BitShares as dex.
We will increase and promote its exposure more in the preparation of the first phase, and as the community's open source money we will promote the conditions for downloading at bitshares.org.

At the same time, we will prioritize the development of the following functions in the second phase of the work plan based on the current user needs collected.

1, over-the-counter trading (acceptance system)
2, the design of p2p function is also developed
3, scan code login
4, add more gateway services

At the graphene conference in July, we will have deep communication with the community members attending the meeting to collect the demand and make corresponding increase and optimization.
After that, we will collect and publish the work plan content in the forum from time to time.

BitShares is a global community, and an easy-to-use open source mobile wallet is needed by the market and users. We call on community members and users around the world to give us feedback and suggestions. Our target service group is not only the existing 100w users in the community, but also more incremental users in the future. We need a good user experience and word of mouth. To gain trust and recognition, this is not just about BitShares Mobile's market evaluation of BitShares as DEX. We hope to take this responsibility and work hard for it.

感谢您的回复

1、这个数据是统计的设备数量。目前采用  https://fabric.io SDK进行统计,新版本我们集成了 https://flurry.com 进行更详细的统计。
2、关于黑白名单功能。该功能由于区块链底层限制,必须是终身会员才可以操作黑白名单,所以普通用户不能设置自己的白名单列表。目前我们对提案部分添加了部分黑名单处理。之后,在安全性方面我们会进行更系统化的增强和改进,包括转账、交易、提案、钱包等各种方面。
3、市场和营销方面确实很重要。这部分我们也在考虑如何更好的扩展用户,比如添加引荐功能以及后续考虑社区网关整合深度等。以及和core团队、官网团队沟通作为官方移动端产品发布等。
4、关于产品功能部分。目前我们也是从社区反馈列出了许多必要的调整功能,比如法币充值等。

如果您有什么其他任何建议,请给我们反馈。

Thank you for your reply

1. This data is the number of devices. Currently using the https://fabric.io SDK for statistics, the new version we integrated https://flurry.com for more detailed statistics.
2. About the black and white list function. Due to the limitation of the blockchain, this function must be a lifetime membership to operate the black and white list, so ordinary users cannot set their own whitelist. We have now added some blacklisting to the proposal section. After that, we will carry out more systematic enhancements and improvements in terms of security, including transfers, transactions, proposals, wallets and more.
3. Market and marketing are really important. In this part, we are also considering how to better expand users, such as adding referrals and subsequent consideration of community gateway integration depth. And communicate with the core team, the official website team as the official mobile product release.
4. About the product function part. At the moment, we also list many necessary adjustment functions from the community feedback, such as French currency recharge.

If you have any other suggestions, please give us feedback.

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Re: [Worker Proposal] 201906 Bitshares Mobile App Proposal
« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2019, 07:31:26 am »
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« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2019, 08:04:50 am »
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请先审查那些Worker Proposals吧!一个小功能就要几百万,还搞到不三不四,被行家评为垃圾。

刚说要审核,马上就支持了这个高花费提案?

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« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2019, 08:42:57 am »
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请先审查那些Worker Proposals吧!一个小功能就要几百万,还搞到不三不四,被行家评为垃圾。

刚说要审核,马上就支持了这个高花费提案?

单单搞入金的开源钱包就值得了,还有他们的开发速度比官方钱包快,看HTLC就知道了。

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Re: [Worker Proposal] 201906 Bitshares Mobile App Proposal
« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2019, 09:21:12 am »
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请先审查那些Worker Proposals吧!一个小功能就要几百万,还搞到不三不四,被行家评为垃圾。

刚说要审核,马上就支持了这个高花费提案?

您好,非常高兴社区能有您这样的监管者、督促着。

目前很多worker确实存在各种各样的问题。但我们第一期的worker大家是有目共睹的。相对于国外的很多worker也是性价比最高的。

1、我们有专业的团队,研发人员更是各种游戏行业互联网行业的CTO等职位。目前的预算,扣除各种公司运维、赏金任务、会议等开支后5人团队大概人均3万多RMB。这确实高于天朝互联网行业人均收益,但也仅限于3、4年经验人员。远低于中高端人才薪资。远低于其他worker的国外薪资水平。

2、对于研发方面。你可以仔细看看提案,里面的列出的功能并不比第一期少,并且我们会根据社区需求动态调整。并不仅仅是“维护”而已。

3、对于活跃用户部分。我们我们产品的用户量是不高,和移动互联网APP动着几百,上千万的APP更是没法相比。但目前整个币圈用户远远低于移动互联网基数。具体到BTS圈更少。目前初步估计BTS总日活也就几千量级。当然我们也会推进市场方面的工作,包括通过bitshares.org官网扩展海外市场等等。

4、关于外包价格,其实还有猪八戒等价格更低的平台。那种卖副本的和全新开发完全是两个概念。比如把BTS++副本。50000一份我也很乐意出售。所以你觉得价格这么低像时代那样的公司,用了好几年才搞出一个APP。为什么不直接外包?其中存在种种因素。需求不完全匹配、沟通交流成本、后期维护困难等。

最后、我们都希望BTS能有长远的发展,但BTS发展这么多年入门门槛高也是阻碍发展的主要原因。我们希望能给BTS提供高质量的、媲美中心化交易所的移动端产品。但团队也需要存活,不是吗?

有任何其他疑问欢迎继续指出。
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Re: [Worker Proposal] 201906 Bitshares Mobile App Proposal
« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2019, 10:07:26 am »
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请先审查那些Worker Proposals吧!一个小功能就要几百万,还搞到不三不四,被行家评为垃圾。

刚说要审核,马上就支持了这个高花费提案?

您好,非常高兴社区能有您这样的监管者、督促着。

目前很多worker确实存在各种各样的问题。但我们第一期的worker大家是有目共睹的。相对于国外的很多worker也是性价比最高的。

1、我们有专业的团队,研发人员更是各种游戏行业互联网行业的CTO等职位。目前的预算,扣除各种公司运维、赏金任务、会议等开支后5人团队大概人均3万多RMB。这确实高于天朝互联网行业人均收益,但也仅限于3、4年经验人员。远低于中高端人才薪资。远低于其他worker的国外薪资水平。

2、对于研发方面。你可以仔细看看提案,里面的列出的功能并不比第一期少,并且我们会根据社区需求动态调整。并不仅仅是“维护”而已。

3、对于活跃用户部分。我们我们产品的用户量是不高,和移动互联网APP动着几百,上千万的APP更是没法相比。但目前整个币圈用户远远低于移动互联网基数。具体到BTS圈更少。目前初步估计BTS总日活也就几千量级。当然我们也会推进市场方面的工作,包括通过bitshares.org官网扩展海外市场等等。

4、关于外包价格,其实还有猪八戒等价格更低的平台。那种卖副本的和全新开发完全是两个概念。比如把BTS++副本。50000一份我也很乐意出售。所以你觉得价格这么低像时代那样的公司,用了好几年才搞出一个APP。为什么不直接外包?其中存在种种因素。需求不完全匹配、沟通交流成本、后期维护困难等。

最后、我们都希望BTS能有长远的发展,但BTS发展这么多年入门门槛高也是阻碍发展的主要原因。我们希望能给BTS提供高质量的、媲美中心化交易所的移动端产品。但团队也需要存活,不是吗?

有任何其他疑问欢迎继续指出。

好吧,支持一下国人的提案!
不过我希望团队把产品文档做好一点,开源的东西以后大家都能参与进来维护。
像core的文档,网上搜的都是出自技术达人的blog,官方文档太少了。

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Re: [Worker Proposal] 201906 Bitshares Mobile App Proposal
« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2019, 10:17:48 am »
BTS++ / Bitshares mobile wallet v2.4 update (updated both for iOS and Android).

What's new?
1. K-line interface and trading interface add call order display.
2. The K-line interface is interactively adjusted to enhance the experience..

Official download address: https://app.btspp.io
GooglePlay address: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.bitshares.app
Official website: https://btspp.io/
Telegram: https://t.me/btsplusplus
Github: https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-mobile-app

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BTS++ / Bitshares移动端钱包 v2.4 更新 (iOS和安卓均以更新)。

更新日志
  1、K线界面和交易界面添加爆仓单显示。
  2、K线界面修复部分情况自动滚动问题,增强体验。
  3、部分BUG修复。

官网APP下载地址:https://app.btspp.io
GooglePlay地址:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.bitshares.app
官网:https://btspp.io
电报:https://t.me/btsplusplus
GitHub源代码仓库:https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-mobile-app

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Re: [Worker Proposal] 201906 Bitshares Mobile App Proposal
« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2019, 08:06:43 am »
什么时候有隐私转账的功能?
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28506.msg331398

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Re: [Worker Proposal] 201906 Bitshares Mobile App Proposal
« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2019, 11:28:41 pm »
什么时候有隐私转账的功能?
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28506.msg331398
感谢建议,我们会进行更详细得需求统计,如果这功能得需求用户较多,我们也会考虑。 :)
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