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Re: blocktrades 转账到 binance-bts-1数据统计
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2019, 09:13:36 am »
9月份缺失数据及之前月份数据补齐,数据从BEOS开发到现在2019/12/19基本齐了

| Operation                                         | ID               | Date and Time        | Block      |
|---------------------------------------------------|------------------|----------------------|------------|
| blca\-loan sent 330,000 BTS to blocktrades        | 1\.11\.968615052 | 2019/9/3 下午7:30:39   | 40,654,033 | 330000\.00  |
| blca\-loan sent 333,000 BTS to blocktrades        | 1\.11\.968805150 | 2019/9/4 上午1:59:24   | 40,661,790 | 333000\.00  |
| blca\-loan sent 330,000 BTS to blocktrades        | 1\.11\.968798069 | 2019/9/4 上午1:42:54   | 40,661,460 | 330000\.00  |
| blca\-loan sent 350,000 BTS to blocktrades        | 1\.11\.969161981 | 2019/9/4 下午2:21:15   | 40,676,584 | 350000\.00  |
| blca\-loan sent 400,000 BTS to blocktrades        | 1\.11\.969830043 | 2019/9/5 下午5:12:45   | 40,706,047 | 400000\.00  |
| blca\-loan sent 360,000 BTS to blocktrades        | 1\.11\.970283684 | 2019/9/6 下午12:47:27  | 40,729,324 | 360000\.00  |
| q sent 140,000 BTS to blocktrades                 | 1\.11\.966278612 | 2019/8/31 下午2:46:33  | 40,562,192 | 140000\.00  |
| q sent 320,000 BTS to blocktrades                 | 1\.11\.966264367 | 2019/8/31 下午2:20:21  | 40,561,668 | 320000\.00  |
| q sent 320,000 BTS to blocktrades                 | 1\.11\.966252572 | 2019/8/31 下午1:54:27  | 40,561,153 | 320000\.00  |
| q sent 320,000 BTS to blocktrades                 | 1\.11\.966237913 | 2019/8/31 下午1:23:06  | 40,560,526 | 320000\.00  |
| q sent 300,000 BTS to blocktrades                 | 1\.11\.966232894 | 2019/8/31 下午1:12:54  | 40,560,322 | 300000\.00  |
| q sent 300,000 BTS to blocktrades                 | 1\.11\.966230475 | 2019/8/31 下午1:07:24  | 40,560,212 | 300000\.00  |
| q sent 350,000 BTS to blocktrades                 | 1\.11\.966228729 | 2019/8/31 下午1:03:39  | 40,560,137 | 350000\.00  |
| q sent 350,000 BTS to blocktrades                 | 1\.11\.965896936 | 2019/8/31 上午1:30:03  | 40,546,301 | 350000\.00  |
| q sent 300,000 BTS to blocktrades                 | 1\.11\.965857235 | 2019/8/31 上午12:16:06 | 40,544,825 | 300000\.00  |
| q sent 300,000 BTS to blocktrades                 | 1\.11\.965846763 | 2019/8/30 下午11:55:42 | 40,544,421 | 300000\.00  |
| q sent 300,000 BTS to blocktrades                 | 1\.11\.965723441 | 2019/8/30 下午8:24:36  | 40,540,208 | 300000\.00  |
| blca\-loan sent 300,000 BTS to blocktrades        | 1\.11\.961598702 | 2019/8/25 上午12:34:36 | 40,372,840 | 300000\.00  |
| blca\-loan sent 300,000 BTS to blocktrades        | 1\.11\.961587556 | 2019/8/25 上午12:09:45 | 40,372,343 | 300000\.00  |
| blca\-loan sent 300,000 BTS to blocktrades        | 1\.11\.961586316 | 2019/8/25 上午12:06:15 | 40,372,273 | 300000\.00  |
| blca\-loan sent 270,000 BTS to blocktrades        | 1\.11\.961584621 | 2019/8/25 上午12:01:18 | 40,372,174 | 270000\.00  |
| blca\-loan sent 270,000 BTS to blocktrades        | 1\.11\.961583041 | 2019/8/24 下午11:57:15 | 40,372,096 | 270000\.00  |
| blca\-loan sent 270,000 BTS to blocktrades        | 1\.11\.961580512 | 2019/8/24 下午11:49:36 | 40,371,943 | 270000\.00  |
| blca\-loan sent 270,000 BTS to blocktrades        | 1\.11\.961578553 | 2019/8/24 下午11:44:39 | 40,371,844 | 270000\.00  |
| blca\-loan sent 270,000 BTS to blocktrades        | 1\.11\.961571410 | 2019/8/24 下午11:25:21 | 40,371,458 | 270000\.00  |
| blca\-loan sent 270,000 BTS to blocktrades        | 1\.11\.961567092 | 2019/8/24 下午11:14:57 | 40,371,250 | 270000\.00  |
| blca\-loan sent 270,000 BTS to blocktrades        | 1\.11\.961548357 | 2019/8/24 下午10:35:12 | 40,370,479 | 270000\.00  |
| blca\-loan sent 270,000 BTS to blocktrades        | 1\.11\.961543431 | 2019/8/24 下午10:23:03 | 40,370,236 | 270000\.00  |
| blca\-loan sent 270,000 BTS to blocktrades        | 1\.11\.961537367 | 2019/8/24 下午10:11:12 | 40,369,999 | 270000\.00  |
| blca\-loan sent 270,000 BTS to blocktrades        | 1\.11\.961533717 | 2019/8/24 下午10:02:54 | 40,369,833 | 270000\.00  |
| invictus sent 270,000 BTS to blocktrades          | 1\.11\.957897276 | 2019/8/20 上午12:26:48 | 40,229,078 | 270000\.00  |
| invictus sent 270,000 BTS to blocktrades          | 1\.11\.957004183 | 2019/8/18 下午7:50:09  | 40,194,833 | 270000\.00  |
| invictus sent 260,000 BTS to blocktrades          | 1\.11\.953909856 | 2019/8/14 下午4:33:36  | 40,076,021 | 260000\.00  |
| invictus sent 270,000 BTS to blocktrades          | 1\.11\.953800477 | 2019/8/14 下午1:15:51  | 40,072,085 | 270000\.00  |
| invictus sent 20,000 BTS to blocktrades           | 1\.11\.952054835 | 2019/8/11 下午7:36:33  | 39,993,508 | 20000\.00   |
| invictus sent 250,000 BTS to blocktrades          | 1\.11\.952053585 | 2019/8/11 下午7:33:30  | 39,993,447 | 250000\.00  |
| invictus sent 20,000 BTS to blocktrades           | 1\.11\.950770929 | 2019/8/9 下午8:27:27   | 39,937,067 | 20000\.00   |
| invictus sent 250,000 BTS to blocktrades          | 1\.11\.950752781 | 2019/8/9 下午7:52:00   | 39,936,361 | 250000\.00  |
| invictus sent 150,000 BTS to blocktrades          | 1\.11\.945714241 | 2019/8/2 下午3:43:39   | 39,730,352 | 150000\.00  |
| invictus sent 100,000 BTS to blocktrades          | 1\.11\.945691929 | 2019/8/2 下午2:55:57   | 39,729,401 | 100000\.00  |
| invictus sent 400,000 BTS to blocktrades          | 1\.11\.939937997 | 2019/7/25 下午5:37:24  | 39,503,890 | 400000\.00  |
| invictus sent 500,000 BTS to blocktrades          | 1\.11\.939936506 | 2019/7/25 下午5:34:21  | 39,503,829 | 500000\.00  |
| invictus sent 100,000 BTS to blocktrades          | 1\.11\.939930814 | 2019/7/25 下午5:24:15  | 39,503,627 | 100000\.00  |
| invictus sent 300,000 BTS to blocktrades          | 1\.11\.927495353 | 2019/7/12 上午1:20:33  | 39,110,976 | 300000\.00  |
| invictus sent 300,000 BTS to blocktrades          | 1\.11\.927486627 | 2019/7/12 上午1:06:12  | 39,110,689 | 300000\.00  |
| invictus sent 100,000 BTS to blocktrades          | 1\.11\.927428564 | 2019/7/11 下午11:47:00 | 39,109,111 | 100000\.00  |
| invictus sent 100,000 BTS to blocktrades          | 1\.11\.927361558 | 2019/7/11 下午10:01:42 | 39,107,008 | 100000\.00  |
| invictus sent 100,000 BTS to blocktrades          | 1\.11\.927214205 | 2019/7/11 下午6:45:54  | 39,103,104 | 100000\.00  |
| invictus sent 100,000 BTS to blocktrades          | 1\.11\.927196763 | 2019/7/11 下午6:19:45  | 39,102,581 | 100000\.00  |
| invictus sent 150,000 BTS to blocktrades          | 1\.11\.927050861 | 2019/7/11 下午2:46:54  | 39,098,339 | 150000\.00  |
| invictus sent 200,000 BTS to blocktrades          | 1\.11\.927044853 | 2019/7/11 下午2:37:57  | 39,098,160 | 200000\.00  |
| invictus sent 250,000 BTS to blocktrades          | 1\.11\.927035698 | 2019/7/11 下午2:24:18  | 39,097,887 | 250000\.00  |
| invictus sent 400,000 BTS to blocktrades          | 1\.11\.927026640 | 2019/7/11 下午2:06:03  | 39,097,522 | 400000\.00  |
| virtual\-ventures sent 299,999 BTS to blocktrades | 1\.11\.912565234 | 2019/6/26 下午4:49:51  | 38,669,948 | 299999\.00  |
| stan sent 700,000 BTS to blocktrades              | 1\.11\.886476689 | 2019/5/30 下午3:57:36  | 37,894,172 | 700000\.00  |
| stan sent 100,000 BTS to blocktrades              | 1\.11\.886471612 | 2019/5/30 下午3:52:42  | 37,894,074 | 100000\.00  |
| stan sent 300,000 BTS to blocktrades              | 1\.11\.884191390 | 2019/5/28 下午3:19:12  | 37,835,948 | 300000\.00  |
| stan sent 400,000 BTS to blocktrades              | 1\.11\.884187576 | 2019/5/28 下午3:14:15  | 37,835,849 | 400000\.00  |
| stan sent 250,000 BTS to blocktrades              | 1\.11\.884170544 | 2019/5/28 下午2:51:12  | 37,835,391 | 250000\.00  |
| stan sent 250,000 BTS to blocktrades              | 1\.11\.884167309 | 2019/5/28 下午2:46:42  | 37,835,301 | 250000\.00  |
| beos\.gateway sent 272,940 BTS to blocktrades     | 1\.11\.881364308 | 2019/5/25 下午8:33:39  | 37,756,082 | 272940\.00  |
| blca\-loan sent 50,000 BTS to blocktrades         | 1\.11\.873576010 | 2019/5/18 下午6:57:51  | 37,553,473 | 50000\.00   |
| blca\-loan sent 200,000 BTS to blocktrades        | 1\.11\.873568593 | 2019/5/18 下午6:48:42  | 37,553,290 | 200000\.00  |
| blca\-loan sent 500,000 BTS to blocktrades        | 1\.11\.873557750 | 2019/5/18 下午6:34:33  | 37,553,007 | 500000\.00  |
| blca\-loan sent 500,000 BTS to blocktrades        | 1\.11\.873541812 | 2019/5/18 下午6:13:27  | 37,552,585 | 500000\.00  |
| blca\-loan sent 100,000 BTS to blocktrades        | 1\.11\.873486747 | 2019/5/18 下午4:57:48  | 37,551,078 | 100000\.00  |
| stan sent 500,000 BTS to blocktrades              | 1\.11\.860700890 | 2019/5/8 上午1:01:27   | 37,246,732 | 500000\.00  |
| stan sent 500,000 BTS to blocktrades              | 1\.11\.858949340 | 2019/5/6 下午12:15:12  | 37,202,732 | 500000\.00  |
| stan sent 500,000 BTS to blocktrades              | 1\.11\.858448543 | 2019/5/6 上午12:35:06  | 37,188,766 | 500000\.00  |
| stan sent 500,000 BTS to blocktrades              | 1\.11\.858431217 | 2019/5/6 上午12:08:27  | 37,188,233 | 500000\.00  |
| stan sent 500,000 BTS to blocktrades              | 1\.11\.858426985 | 2019/5/6 上午12:02:39  | 37,188,117 | 500000\.00  |
| stan sent 300,000 BTS to blocktrades              | 1\.11\.858423949 | 2019/5/5 下午11:58:48  | 37,188,043 | 300000\.00  |
| stan sent 100,000 BTS to blocktrades              | 1\.11\.840253434 | 2019/4/19 下午12:47:33 | 36,715,108 | 100000\.00  |
| stan sent 100,000 BTS to blocktrades              | 1\.11\.839634569 | 2019/4/19 上午12:45:00 | 36,700,693 | 100000\.00  |
| stan sent 500,000 BTS to blocktrades              | 1\.11\.839505454 | 2019/4/18 下午9:30:30  | 36,696,812 | 500000\.00  |
| stan sent 500,000 BTS to blocktrades              | 1\.11\.839502965 | 2019/4/18 下午9:25:48  | 36,696,718 | 500000\.00  |
| stan sent 30,000 BTS to blocktrades               | 1\.11\.839497908 | 2019/4/18 下午9:18:03  | 36,696,563 | 30000\.00   |
| 21815939\.00                                      |


blocktrades数据:
| Operation                                       | ID               | Date and Time        | Block       |
|-------------------------------------------------|------------------|----------------------|-------------|
| blocktrades sent 400,000 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.969883217 | 2019/9/5 下午9:18:21   | 40,710,788  | 400000\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 700,000 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.962373520 | 2019/8/26 上午4:13:12  | 40,405,924  | 700000\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 550,000 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.962742535 | 2019/8/26 下午5:19:30  | 40,421,607  | 550000\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 680,000 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.962050802 | 2019/8/25 下午5:28:15  | 40,393,061  | 680000\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 600,000 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.961943137 | 2019/8/25 下午2:05:12  | 40,389,009  | 600000\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 550,000 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.961640995 | 2019/8/25 上午2:15:30  | 40,374,852  | 550000\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 250,000 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.961528947 | 2019/8/24 下午9:50:27  | 40,369,587  | 250000\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 450,000 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.961357206 | 2019/8/24 下午3:13:36  | 40,361,669  | 450000\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 500,100 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.956284805 | 2019/8/17 下午7:08:27  | 40,165,271  | 500100\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 400,000 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.953867413 | 2019/8/14 下午3:34:03  | 40,074,833  | 400000\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 500,000 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.949527346 | 2019/8/8 上午4:05:06   | 39,888,742  | 500000\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 590,000 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.949789334 | 2019/8/8 下午1:01:09   | 39,899,436  | 590000\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 610,000 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.947706113 | 2019/8/5 下午3:24:24   | 39,816,120  | 610000\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 375,000 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.940643221 | 2019/7/26 下午4:59:54  | 39,531,867  | 375000\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 400,000 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.939993868 | 2019/7/25 下午7:33:27  | 39,506,205  | 400000\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 300,000 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.935924093 | 2019/7/20 下午10:46:36 | 39,366,424  | 300000\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 350,000 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.934802153 | 2019/7/19 下午3:51:42  | 39,329,438  | 350000\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 150,000 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.934255610 | 2019/7/19 上午1:43:33  | 39,312,521  | 150000\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 200,000 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.934157419 | 2019/7/18 下午10:49:42 | 39,309,053  | 200000\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 100,000 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.934157174 | 2019/7/18 下午10:49:15 | 39,309,044  | 100000\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 274,326 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.888211638 | 2019/6/1 上午3:14:15   | 37,936,396  | 274326\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 310,743 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.888139288 | 2019/6/1 上午1:31:15   | 37,934,343  | 310743\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 264,738 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.887940205 | 2019/5/31 下午9:10:00  | 37,929,130  | 264738\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 324,838 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.884622395 | 2019/5/29 上午12:05:03 | 37,846,438  | 324838\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 270,385 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.884460889 | 2019/5/28 下午8:56:18  | 37,842,675  | 270385\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 240,842 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.884349324 | 2019/5/28 下午6:30:18  | 37,839,761  | 240842\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 210,473 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.884219160 | 2019/5/28 下午3:53:12  | 37,836,628  | 210473\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 112,893 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.882968959 | 2019/5/27 下午1:36:48  | 37,805,179  | 112893\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 174,392 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.879790956 | 2019/5/24 上午7:32:21  | 37,711,773  | 174392\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 243,729 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.877532421 | 2019/5/22 上午5:46:21  | 37,652,268  | 243729\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 273,904 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.877267237 | 2019/5/21 下午11:57:39 | 37,645,547  | 273904\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 329,648 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.875545747 | 2019/5/20 下午1:49:54  | 37,604,747  | 329648\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 272,483 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.874874136 | 2019/5/20 上午12:08:18 | 37,588,371  | 272483\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 170,739 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.873925730 | 2019/5/19 上午3:14:27  | 37,563,372  | 170739\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 150,924 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.869989429 | 2019/5/16 上午3:03:45  | 37,478,353  | 150924\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 124,783 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.867049997 | 2019/5/13 下午5:11:54  | 37,409,195  | 124783\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 145,386 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.864766317 | 2019/5/11 下午6:00:12  | 37,352,998  | 145386\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 157,382 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.863273313 | 2019/5/10 下午12:54:18 | 37,318,178  | 157382\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 348,729 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.862882183 | 2019/5/10 上午3:28:24  | 37,306,887  | 348729\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 289,393 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.862857817 | 2019/5/10 上午2:56:12  | 37,306,246  | 289393\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 172,892 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.862775567 | 2019/5/10 上午12:56:36 | 37,303,865  | 172892\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 142,873 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.858558434 | 2019/5/6 上午3:07:12   | 142873\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 128,373 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.850031041 | 2019/4/27 下午7:57:27  | 36,953,477  | 128373\.00  |
| blocktrades sent 150,347 BTS to binance\-bts\-1 | 1\.11\.849901490 | 2019/4/27 下午4:31:39  | 36,949,370  | 150347\.00  |
| 13940315\.00                                    |


异常数据:
| Operation                                        | ID               | Date and Time       | Block      |
|--------------------------------------------------|------------------|---------------------|------------|
| blocktrades sent 4,137,651 BTS to beos\.gateway  | 1\.11\.935900548 | 2019/7/20 下午9:56:54 | 39,365,433 | 4137651\.00   |
| blocktrades sent 81,000 BTS to stan              | 1\.11\.861447112 | 2019/5/8 下午5:50:27  | 37,266,639 | 81000\.00     |
| blocktrades sent 1,000,000 BTS to beos\.gateway  | 1\.11\.858625991 | 2019/5/6 上午4:49:18  | 37,193,838 | 1000000\.00   |
| blocktrades sent 300,000 BTS to beos\.gateway    | 1\.11\.840748065 | 2019/4/19 下午9:44:24 | 36,725,818 | 300000\.00    |
| blocktrades sent 25,227,646 BTS to beos\.gateway | 1\.11\.826666075 | 2019/4/8 下午8:55:24  | 36,408,955 | 25227646\.00  |
| 30746297\.00                                     |
« Last Edit: December 20, 2019, 09:46:36 am by binggo »

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Re: blocktrades 转账到 binance-bts-1数据统计
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2019, 01:26:03 am »
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btsnow的700万待解冻是2016年的core维护worker的剩余资金。在这贴里: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=21296.0

这就清楚了。

问题是这些资金需要销到资金池里面去啊,沉在那里时间一长很容易被遗忘了。
你想要他还,找他啊。
我之前问过,他说他申请的资金他有权决定怎么用,还说大家应该相信他的人品。话说回来,确实放那几年也没挪用。


顺便,关于他转币安的事,他在你的英文帖回复了,说的很明确:因为cnvote投票refund的事、和锁喂价的事(这个不光是cnvote),他觉得价格会跌,所以先砸为敬的。这样思路的老外不少,里面也是有大户的。
他这个中转站和别的网关不一样,是有自主性的,Stan砸给他是Stan的事,他砸到币安是他自己的事。

所以。。凡事都是多面的。比如,refund投上去,worker不砸,有人会砸。
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« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2019, 03:53:57 am »
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他说他申请的资金他有权决定怎么用,还说大家应该相信他的人品。

这个说法极致, 换个说法就是: 钱给我了, 想怎么花谁都管不到!

我想以后是否能够避免这种情况,就跟奶王之前的预算一样。

是否能够社区投票搞回来.? 不清楚这个资金合同是怎么定的...

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关于他转币安的事

大家互相转来转去, 数据交叉对比一下都清楚.

出清是好事, 谁砸的与自主与否并不会妨碍结果, 直接说想卖出就行, 说那么多理由都是白扯呼, 他难道是准备做老庄还是做波段侠,没有一个理由占的住脚, 反正涨上去也是要砸的, 他说他缓慢出货没有影响价格波动, 那是因为有大饼拉升及后期的交易大赛在撑着, 不然他缓慢出个锤子, 汇率怎么走的大家又不是瞎子.
再者, 像BEOS这样, 说好的做bts的生态, 我是从来没有见过这样做生态的, 国内社区也很少有人说BEOS坏话, 当然自己的钱想怎么花是他们的自由.

从BEOS开始开发到现在, 我们对比一下K线图与blocktrades出货量情况, 这样的事实应该很清楚, 越往后出货量越大币价下跌越严重, 到底是谁把bitusd跟bitcny及国内社区逼到这个份上的, 数据可以说话的, 没必要倒打一耙, 没有国内社区做承托提供流量, 这帮人想啥那?

blocktrades在四月份之前有个渣渣的成交量啊!

worker不一样, worker是要看绩效的.

停了worker, 他们就感觉没前途, 那么这纯属崽花爷钱不心疼的想法, 感觉worker那么有疗效, 他们作为大户怎么不出血捐赠去开发, 他们的预期是只要有worker币价就会涨还是怎么的? 搞不清楚, 既然信誓旦旦的确信worker能够拉币价, 自己出点血去验证一下不好吗? 验证完毕, 大家也就不会再叽歪了, 验证的效果好, 社区投票把款再拨给他们啊 :o
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« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2019, 11:30:47 am »
我实在不想说这种投票拨款制度是多么的二!!!

无论是这700多万的沉睡资金还是core的说辞都是一样一样的, 不把这种worker制度彻底纠正过来, 把权力全部收到社区控制中, 以后还会有这么多的二货说辞.

资金的最终控制权必须在社区手中, 而不是worker手中.

任何github的控制权力不能越过社区及理事会/见证人的权利.

我是真的想说一句:发**克!!!
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« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2019, 02:24:43 pm »
我实在不想说这种投票拨款制度是多么的二!!!

无论是这700多万的沉睡资金还是core的说辞都是一样一样的, 不把这种worker制度彻底纠正过来, 把权力全部收到社区控制中, 以后还会有这么多的二货说辞.

资金的最终控制权必须在社区手中, 而不是worker手中.

任何github的控制权力不能越过社区及理事会/见证人的权利.

我是真的想说一句:发**克!!!

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« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2019, 07:34:28 pm »
binggo, what exactly is your proposed change to the worker proposal system? You are clearly upset, but I still am trying to figure out what your actual proposal is for a blockchain change.

If it is to reclaim worker funds after they are vested, that won't achieve anything useful: if a worker has accumulated funds and wants to avoid such a reclaim action, they could simply move or spend the funds. So a blockchain ability to reclaim the funds would have no power against a bad worker.

Or maybe you are just proposing to shutdown the worker proposal system?
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« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2019, 08:02:51 pm »
binggo, what exactly is your proposed change to the worker proposal system? You are clearly upset, but I still am trying to figure out what your actual proposal is for a blockchain change.

If it is to reclaim worker funds after they are vested, that won't achieve anything useful: if a worker has accumulated funds and wants to avoid such a reclaim action, they could simply move or spend the funds. So a blockchain ability to reclaim the funds would have no power against a bad worker.

Or maybe you are just proposing to shutdown the worker proposal system?

I think your worker proposal was clear and also the claim to refund all unused funds.

You can of course point us to the workers description which says you have the right to hold unused funds over a long period of time should a maintenace be needed.

What bingo surely means is unused funds should be always in control of community and should only be realesed for done work.
It would avoid a situation which you create holding 7 million bts for over 2 years with no consent basicly forcing the community to trust your character blindly and own personal vision
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« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2019, 08:14:09 pm »
Well, I hadn't interpreted his words this way, but you could be correct.

But if so, releasing funds only for "done work" is somewhat problematic, IMO. It will certainly be difficult to find workers who can afford to wait till after a job is done before they receive payment. In fact, I think that you won't find any such workers, unless they do it only for their own satisfaction, and only consider any reward for the work as an afterthought. In other words, I think you will get only "free" work contributions with such a payment model (with the possible exception for some, quick easy tasks).
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« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2019, 08:18:26 pm »
Well, I hadn't interpreted his words this way, but you could be correct.

But if so, releasing funds only for "done work" is somewhat problematic, IMO. It will certainly be difficult to find workers who can afford to wait till after a job is done before they receive payment. In fact, I think that you won't find any such workers, unless they do it only for their own satisfaction, and only consider any reward for the work as an afterthought. In other words, I think you will get only "free" work contributions with such a payment model (with the possible exception for some, quick easy tasks).

Paying in parts for done work is no issue.

But please point us at your worker which says you are allowed to hold unused funds for unlimited time for possible future maintenance should ever some be needed.

I think bitshares philosophy is very clear which was always that unused funds go back to reserve funds or are being pushed to another worker which community decides
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« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2019, 08:26:18 pm »
Well, I hadn't interpreted his words this way, but you could be correct.

But if so, releasing funds only for "done work" is somewhat problematic, IMO. It will certainly be difficult to find workers who can afford to wait till after a job is done before they receive payment. In fact, I think that you won't find any such workers, unless they do it only for their own satisfaction, and only consider any reward for the work as an afterthought. In other words, I think you will get only "free" work contributions with such a payment model (with the possible exception for some, quick easy tasks).

Paying in parts for done work is no issue.
I'm not completely sure what you meant by the above statement. But my general impression is that you're brushing off as easy something that is actually very difficult: contracting with a software developer, getting good results for both parties, and not having payment problems. And the damages can result on both sides too, not just the contractee side: I've had cases where we didn't receive payment for work done, because the contractee could no longer afford to pay for the work. Costs build up quickly on both sides of such arrangements.

In traditional hiring for software work, conflicts often arise between the developers and the contractee because of misunderstandings and incorrect expectations on both sides and external forces such as economic problems for either  party. Blockchain-based payment is going to be no different and is going to suffer the same kinds of problems.
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« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2019, 08:30:09 pm »
But please point us at your worker which says you are allowed to hold unused funds for unlimited time for possible future maintenance should ever some be needed.

I think bitshares philosophy is very clear which was always that unused funds go back to reserve funds or are being pushed to another worker which community decides

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« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2019, 08:31:24 pm »
Ah, you edited your reply, so now your point is clearer to me.

If the proposal for the work had been for some specific task, I would agree with you that the funds should be returned. The point is, the proposal was a simple catch-all insurance policy against blockchain failure, not a specific task.
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« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2019, 08:41:58 pm »
Ah, you edited your reply, so now your point is clearer to me.

If the proposal for the work had been for some specific task, I would agree with you that the funds should be returned. The point is, the proposal was a simple catch-all insurance policy against blockchain failure, not a specific task.

You clearly posted all unused funds will be refunded.

I think it can't be more clear.

You are playing a dishonest game and it should not surprise you it upsets some people like bingo.

By law you have no right to keep the funds and dictate your point of view.

Once again your own written condition for that contract

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Changing it after receiving funds without consent is nothing which has any kind of legality
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« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2019, 10:25:28 pm »
Its like you're just ignoring the reason why I made this proposal to begin with. At the time, the core team had left the project, and there was doubt about what would happen in an emergency situation with no core team available to fix the problem. It was also intended to fix smaller bugs as well, but this was my chief concern. In the case of such an emergency, there could easily be no way for stakeholders to vote funds to fix the problem (e.g. the chain could be down). This proposal provided an insurance against such problems.

But, realistically speaking, if the current voters really don't want such insurance any more, I'm ok to return the funds. If you feel strongly on this issue, create an "opinion proposal" on whether the funds should be returned to the reserve pool. If it gets funded, I'm fine to return the funds and end this insurance policy.
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« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2019, 11:28:06 pm »
Its like you're just ignoring the reason why I made this proposal to begin with. At the time, the core team had left the project, and there was doubt about what would happen in an emergency situation with no core team available to fix the problem. It was also intended to fix smaller bugs as well, but this was my chief concern. In the case of such an emergency, there could easily be no way for stakeholders to vote funds to fix the problem (e.g. the chain could be down). This proposal provided an insurance against such problems.

But, realistically speaking, if the current voters really don't want such insurance any more, I'm ok to return the funds. If you feel strongly on this issue, create an "opinion proposal" on whether the funds should be returned to the reserve pool. If it gets funded, I'm fine to return the funds and end this insurance policy.

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