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Started by Ander, November 02, 2015, 10:46:05 PM

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tonyk

#37
Quote from: Tuck Fheman on November 04, 2015, 05:26:57 PM
Quote from: tonyk on November 03, 2015, 09:01:39 AM
You paid the LTM

Actually, I got it for free. ;)

Quote from: tonyk on November 03, 2015, 09:01:39 AM
so you can every morning re-tweet an advertisement or two

I'm not a fan of Twitter. I really dislike the format and pretty much everything about Twitter. Spamming ads is all it's good for as far as I'm concerned. ;)

Too bad...fuzz has great plans for this as your every day morning pleasure.
As a benefit for being a lifetime member that is.  :)


Quote from: fuzzy on November 03, 2015, 06:29:28 AM
Quote from: Tuck Fheman on November 02, 2015, 11:07:18 PM
Quote from: Ander on November 02, 2015, 10:46:05 PM
Imo, the make order/cancelled order fee should be made as low as possible (only nonzero to prevent spam).  For ALL users, not just lifetime.

I disagree.

Why even have a lifetime membership option if everyone gets the perks?

Such perks are the reason to buy the lifetime membership.

It also says, "Hey BTS Community, I'm here to stay!".


"Perks" should level up slowly and some perks should be unlocked by doing various tasks (like retweeting a bitshares advertisement each day you log in). You should be able to earn perks as well as paying for them...and there should be a couple tiers.  This might not be achievable via blockchain, but it wont need to be if a third party service offers it and uses the referral income to help level things out...


this is a great post.
Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.

Tuck Fheman

#36
Quote from: tonyk on November 03, 2015, 09:01:39 AM
You paid the LTM

Actually, I got it for free. ;)

Quote from: tonyk on November 03, 2015, 09:01:39 AM
so you can every morning re-tweet an advertisement or two

I'm not a fan of Twitter. I really dislike the format and pretty much everything about Twitter. Spamming ads is all it's good for as far as I'm concerned. ;)

luckybit

Quote from: fuzzy on November 03, 2015, 06:29:28 AM
Quote from: Tuck Fheman on November 02, 2015, 11:07:18 PM
Quote from: Ander on November 02, 2015, 10:46:05 PM
Imo, the make order/cancelled order fee should be made as low as possible (only nonzero to prevent spam).  For ALL users, not just lifetime.

I disagree.

Why even have a lifetime membership option if everyone gets the perks?

Such perks are the reason to buy the lifetime membership.

It also says, "Hey BTS Community, I'm here to stay!".


"Perks" should level up slowly and some perks should be unlocked by doing various tasks (like retweeting a bitshares advertisement each day you log in).  You should be able to earn perks as well as paying for them...and there should be a couple tiers.  This might not be achievable via blockchain, but it wont need to be if a third party service offers it and uses the referral income to help level things out...


this is a great post.
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tonyk

#34
Quote from: fuzzy on November 03, 2015, 06:29:28 AM
Quote from: Tuck Fheman on November 02, 2015, 11:07:18 PM
Quote from: Ander on November 02, 2015, 10:46:05 PM
Imo, the make order/cancelled order fee should be made as low as possible (only nonzero to prevent spam).  For ALL users, not just lifetime.

I disagree.

Why even have a lifetime membership option if everyone gets the perks?

Such perks are the reason to buy the lifetime membership.

It also says, "Hey BTS Community, I'm here to stay!".


"Perks" should level up slowly and some perks should be unlocked by doing various tasks (like retweeting a bitshares advertisement each day you log in).  You should be able to earn perks as well as paying for them...and there should be a couple tiers.  This might not be achievable via blockchain, but it wont need to be if a third party service offers it and uses the referral income to help level things out...


this is a great post.



I am tearing down a wall or two in my house and building the most idiotic in the net wall-hall of fame.
In the  sub-category "The most inappropriate responses" this one will be definitely be the first entiee. I know I am just starting it, but I bet 5 years down the road this one will still have its chance to be there.., proudly!


PS
You got the memo Tuck? You paid the LTM so you can every morning re-tweet an advertisement or two [alternatively repay to not do that}. Are we clear on that? :)
Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.

JonnyB

All fees should drop to a low simple price of say 5bts and bitshares should run at a loss for a long time until we have volume.
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fuzzy

Quote from: Tuck Fheman on November 02, 2015, 11:07:18 PM
Quote from: Ander on November 02, 2015, 10:46:05 PM
Imo, the make order/cancelled order fee should be made as low as possible (only nonzero to prevent spam).  For ALL users, not just lifetime.

I disagree.

Why even have a lifetime membership option if everyone gets the perks?

Such perks are the reason to buy the lifetime membership.

It also says, "Hey BTS Community, I'm here to stay!".


"Perks" should level up slowly and some perks should be unlocked by doing various tasks (like retweeting a bitshares advertisement each day you log in).  You should be able to earn perks as well as paying for them...and there should be a couple tiers.  This might not be achievable via blockchain, but it wont need to be if a third party service offers it and uses the referral income to help level things out...


this is a great post.
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puppies

I think BMs idea to charge a fee to place an order and then refund it if canceled would work pretty well.

I am not exactly sure why some of us seem to be calling for the burning of brownies or the looting of lifetime members. 
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Tuck Fheman

Quote from: BTSdac on November 03, 2015, 04:56:12 AM
what change ?
lift-time member have 80% fee back , it does`t change .

We should give every non-LM referral fees too and discount account creation!

Because, nothing changes for LM's.   :-\

BTSdac

Quote from: Tuck Fheman on November 03, 2015, 02:48:22 AM
Quote from: BTSdac on November 03, 2015, 01:50:52 AM
Don`t put the cart before the horse,

Don't change the terms after you sell to the customers.

Are you going to refund all LM members their paid fees?

If the LM was a bad idea it should have never been created in the first place.

But, why is this just being discovered now?

Where was all of this input on this matter BEFORE the cart was created, placed in a certain order and sold to others?
what change ?
lift-time member have 80% fee back , it does`t change .
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clayop

My suggestion:

- BTS < $0.02: 1 BTS trading fee / 0.1 BTS cancellation fee
- $0.02 < BTS < $0.04: 0.5 BTS trading fee / 0.05 BTS cancellation fee
...
- $0.5 < BTS < $1: 0.02 BTS trading fee / 0.002 cancellation fee

We should question this. Who want to become the lifetime members? Heavy traders? Maybe yes. But main reason of becoming LTM is that they love and believe our platform. So LTM means LoyalTy Members. We first attract people into our ecosystem, with many incentives. Set trading fees as low as to prevent spamming. That's enough. We have enough transaction throughput (at least 100 TPS).

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wallace

suggestion:

1. a new user first 100 trade order free
2. 101-1000 trader order 50% off the current fee
3. over 1000 trader order the same as now.

at the same time, the transation fee no change.
give me money, I will do...

Tuck Fheman

Quote from: tonyk on November 03, 2015, 03:50:04 AM
Quote from: Tuck Fheman on November 03, 2015, 03:38:49 AM
Quote from: tonyk on November 03, 2015, 03:00:02 AM
This calls for a meme change... like 180 degree rotation of the engine orientation. :)

ShareBits - Because sometimes the cart comes first.
This is good!

but I was talking about this rocket engine..


being put on the side of the BTS logo... and the whole thing going around in 'random' circles.

"because sometime the cart is besides the horse"

:P


tonyk

#25
Quote from: Tuck Fheman on November 03, 2015, 03:38:49 AM
Quote from: tonyk on November 03, 2015, 03:00:02 AM
This calls for a meme change... like 180 degree rotation of the engine orientation. :)

ShareBits - Because sometimes the cart comes first.
This is good!

but I was talking about this rocket engine..


being put on the side of the BTS logo... and the whole thing going around in 'random' circles.

"because sometime the cart is besides the horse"
Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.

Tuck Fheman

Quote from: tonyk on November 03, 2015, 03:00:02 AM
This calls for a meme change... like 180 degree rotation of the engine orientation. :)

ShareBits - Because sometimes the cart comes first.

38PTSWarrior

Things change here quick because a few state their opinion. I say for now, no changes.