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General Discussion / Re: [eng] Marketing Efforts and Pre-Worker Discussion
« on: November 06, 2018, 02:33:17 pm »
I really don't want to be always negativ but its really horrible.
Do they even know what bitshares dex is ?
Their marketing will be also low effectiv based on what they have written.
It seems they don't have much experience in effectiv online marketing but are just blowing the money away.
First of all their text is written horrible.There are no real traffic sources provided.They basicly say we need to understand what user we target,what they are looking for and generating leads out of them.
Their keywords are the biggest joke of all.
Cryptocurrency to invest
Bitcoin alternatives
Distributed ledger technology
Block time
Blockchain ledger
Block reward
Distributed ledger vs blockchain
Smart coins wallet
What is block time

Do anybody really belive these kind of keywords will bring DEX new users ? :D
Also i don't like the fact they are based in Netherlands.Don't get me wrong but the cost instantly increased by x2 x3 compared to other countries.
Their solution is very costly.
A single article on cointelegraph is 1 BTC =$7000 which will get you arround 20-50k readers who are basicly already in the crypto sphere for a longer time.How much new registrations will you get?
Their SEO is also only targeting keywords which are not important at all.
If you target major keywords for DEX you will need to count a minimum of $5k per month for the SEO company as the market is very competitiv.You can always see Binance,Bittrex and Poloniex on first page as they invest a lot of money to be there.
Creating social media accounts is peanuts.There is no info written how they are going to make them viral or at least grow quickly.I guess because its not on their agenda.
They want to create blogs for bitshares.The issue on new generated websites is they don't have any traffic and need first to be promoted or ranked on google.

In my personal opinion its not a good offer for this amount of money they are demanding and most important it won't lead to many new registrations

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General Discussion / Re: suggest to disable forcesettlement for bitCNY
« on: November 06, 2018, 01:54:16 pm »
You are turning a free market into a centrally planned economy

what you called free market is a forrest where beasts can kill and eat people.

the real free market is a common infrastructure, it need careful design and will evolve with consensus.

Consensus of what ?The people or the few proxies acting like central banks?
You make no announcements,no clear rules no borders no nothing and we the majority of traders are forced to accept it ?
Also is it just me or is the trading volume on DEX decreasing quickly and pushed down from its trone ?

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I'm pretty sure its a waste of funds and reputation of bitshares.
Majority of top 50 exchanges have faked volume.
The proposed exchange of bitcrab is the worst bitshares could join.
RightBTC is known being run by Eric Gu who used it basicly to create fake volume for his own projects ETP ,ZGC etc .
The real volume there is nearly ZERO.
They don't even have a working withdraw system but are doing it manually with a delay of up to 7 days where you need to beg their support Betty Zhang to even process it.
Latoken's volume will be also a joke when monitoring the coins they listed before since they started asking to list anything as long as the coin is willing to pay their listing fee.
Real big exchanges won't list now bitassets because the risk a small uncontrolable group changes major settings is way to high as they would ever take that responsibility.

The funds would be just wasted instead of being used for real marketing.Listing on new exchanges were the volume will be near zero isn't helping any bitasset at all or are we going to ask Eric to create also fake volume for our bitassets ?

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3. "price fed by witnesses is voluntary changed w/o having a consensus" is incorrect. Witnesses are acting by consensus. As of writing, BSIP42's status is "approved" according to result of consensus voting.

I have never seen any accouncement how exectly the price feed will be manipulated and in which borders it will stay.
I doubt even 5% of the traders on bitshares knows how the price feed manipulation works and where its borders are if there are any at all.
Its a small group talking between themself adjusting and twisting and not informing the community at all.

Just because a handfull of proxies agreed on it doesn't mean the majority of traders agree on it or even have a clue what exectly is happening.
There was also no annoucement of bitusd feed price getting manipulated .It just raised by 40% .
This kind of behavior is the reason why no big exchange is going to implement these bitassets as a small group is using it as it is their private toy they can experiment with.
People using stablecoins don't look for these kind of experiments but for stability of contract.
Even a large bitshares group left our own bitassets because of that lack of trust thanks to your actions and joined diffrent stable coins like DAO.
You also want people to create more bitassets by opening margins (debt).
Tell me who is going to open any margins when their CR jumps in days from 2to 2.5 and back down to 1.6 without the market making any signaficant moves?

Its funny you are talking about an opportunity for stable coins because Tether is currently massivly under pressure as people don't belive that its backed 1:1 and at the same time talk about removing "black swan" so the CR could go under 1

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General Discussion / Re: suggest to disable forcesettlement for bitCNY
« on: November 06, 2018, 11:26:52 am »
You are turning a free market into a centrally planned economy

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General Discussion / Re: Announcement on BSIP42 relevant actions
« on: October 02, 2018, 08:49:05 pm »
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Just like @Thul3, if he politely ask and focus on the issues themselves

I guess i was more than polite at the beginning asking normal questions but got as response only silence or ignorance as some peoples attitude looked like they don't need to explain anything to the community anymore even they broke heavily a consensus without fearing any restrictions.

You are looking for somebody blameworthy ?
Maybe start looking together with bitcrab in the mirror.

Who was it who broke massivly community consensus on OMO and acted like nothing happened ?
Wasn't it even you who said bitcrab had to contact you how to enable TCR cause he couldn't find it risking that all collateral of the OMO fund would get margin called and that the OMO fund had been running all the time without TCR enabled and thats not acceptable ?
Who created BSIP42 without clear defenitions and without any transparancy to the community ,changing and experimenting in a small group where nobody from the community was informed what is really coming ?
Who said in threads it is only for bitCNY since its a liquid market and later quickly switched to bitUSD without even talking with the community if BSIP42 is a success ?
Who was it who started threatening witnesses with unvoting for not quickly adding new bitusd feed ?
Who banned a witness from a witness telegram channel ?
Who is using spring funds for Voting ?
I could keep going on.

My tone changed after i only recived ignorance ....and if you claim that bitcrab would have talked with me if i were more polite then i'm asking why didn't he responded to any of my concernes before where the tone was polite or emails i sent to him ?

Xeroc already attacked me that i have a personal vendetta against bitcrab which is not true at all but i'm a heavy supporter of bitshares and seeing the massiv change from a decentralised exchange to a centralised planed exchange without any transparency or discussion makes me mad no matter who is responsible for it.

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@bitcrab my i ask why you are pushing change of feedprice without announcment that there will be a change soon ?
You are changing main parameters without even feeling the need to inform the community that this kind of change will accur soon ?

You guys added 30% to the feed price.

@ witnesses Can you explain why you changed the feedprice of bitusd when there is a clearly big resistance on it for bitusd ?
What is the reason you changed the feedprice without consensus of the community and without even informing about such a change ?
Do you even not feel the need to announce such big changes to the community anymore?




Thanks Openledger,Clockwork and Verbaltech for staying strong


2 big Proxies already switched from BSIP42 YES to a NO because of bitcrabs action on BitUSD.

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General Discussion / Re: On The Importance of Bit.GOLD
« on: September 28, 2018, 03:30:14 pm »
Gold is a very manipulated market expecially because of the future role of gold.

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I said it incorrectly @thul3. I meant we need to increase liquidity on Bit.GOLD so that when people want to be short crypto they can escape to Bit.GOLD. Holding Bit.GOLD is better than bitFIAT since it is not depreciating

I understood it correctly and bench already replied to your question

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To generate more bitGold somebody needs to borrow bitGold and sell it?

Now the question who would prefer to short bitgold instead of bitfiat ?

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http://cryptofresh.com/a/GOLD

Settlement price is 4,753 BTS/GOLD, that's the exact amount of available backing collateral per bitGOLD.
However, market price is around 10,000 BTS/bitGOLD with a significant spread (highest buy is offering more than 9,500 BTS).


Since bitgold is being traded wouldn't it make sense to add a trading fee which moves directly to the collateral/settlement pool ?

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General Discussion / Somebody might enlighten me why BSIP42 on BitUSD ?
« on: September 27, 2018, 07:02:29 pm »
Can somebody enlighten me why BSIP42 is now being so quickly being implemented on bitUSD ?
You can't tell me you want to pegg bitusd to something ?
BSIP42 is experimental for bitcny so why is it already being implemented on bitUSD ?
What is the Agenda behind implementing BSIP42 on bitUSD ?
Why is a war started between witnesses who implement BSIP42 quickly on bitUSD and witnesses who refuse to make such massiv changes so quickly ?

I really would love to see some answers from xeroc and openledger who are making BSIP42 possible and if they really feel thats the right way to treat solid witnesses ?

I would love to hear what result you whish to achieve and what makes you call BSIP42 a success (defenition) that you already moved on to bitUSD without community consensus or is the experimental timeframe over?
If yes where are the results ?Info's and discussion about it ?


bitcrab :
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updated witnesses voting, supported witnesses that take positive actions on implementing BSIP42 on bitUSD.

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General Discussion / Re: On The Importance of Bit.GOLD
« on: September 27, 2018, 06:50:59 pm »
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But I'm asking why you would borrow bitFIAT that is depreciating over time when you can borrow bitGOLD


You answered your own question already.
If you borrow something you need to pay it back at some point.
Would you prefer to buy back gold which price high probably will raise as its already low
or would you prefer paying back a bitasset which value has decreased which automaticly means you need to pay back less.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Poll] BSIP42: adjust price feed dynamically
« on: September 24, 2018, 02:58:29 pm »
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However, even when it's able to adjust MCR, the code doesn't allow us to adjust it to less than 100%. That means black swan is unavoidable by adjusting MCR alone when time comes.

So you admit now that BSIP42 is massivly increasing the danger of getting a global settlement ?

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Witness Proposal] gdex-witnness
« on: September 23, 2018, 01:04:46 am »
Just confirms what i thought about the lack of governance what you guys do.

There are clearly no standards as majority of witnesses doesn't even feel the necassary anymore to inform the community about changes but just decide in your small group and keep forward.
I could highlight many more points from these convos which is concerning me like you have no clear rules ,standards for running BSIP42 .
The description of BSIP 42 is also very fluffy.

Seeing the same witnesses supporting that crap without raising any concerns or asking for standards just confirms what i experienced myself in other chats when talking about BSIP42 and reading their crap defending BSIP42 with their nonsense without a single word about giving free manipulation access to everything with no clear rules/standards or any other information.
Seems like a small group feels like they can do whatever they want without the inclusion of the community.

About Thomas when reading your convo it seems you had no problem with him as witness for 3 full years till he was not updating BSIP42 quickly as there was no timeline and just has an experimental status  and demanding some standards ?
This quickly leaded that you and bitcrab unvoted him even BSIP 42 says nothing how quickly he has to implement it.
Some sort of power play you execute what we demand quickly or else you will be voted and kicked out ?

I feel concerned that other witnesses are posting under new nicknames.
Seems for me like some sort of defense against retaliation

Now after so short time you guys already demand to change bitusd and mcr and global settlement.

Where does the experiment of bitCNY ended ?
Where is the Data collected ?
Was is really a success if we didn't see now a bigger down movement ?
No info no standards no nothing just a bunch of people pushing and pushing with poor claims but without any proof at all


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if there's consensus among the fund holders, why can't the fund vote?

Consensus of all fund owners ?I highly doubt it.
You are using funds from people who are invested in spring fund but don't agree on BSIP42.

I know personly at least 1 fund holder who is against it

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Witness Proposal] gdex-witnness
« on: September 22, 2018, 06:38:44 pm »
@abit

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By the way, out of curious but with respect, may I ask who are you? Looks like you know some conversation occurred in the witness channel which is invite only, you also know the alerts channel which is also invite only and rarely used recently. We do need more people to discuss, to get better solutions.

Funny you are asking who he is as you need more people to discuss........

Out of curious but with respect is it true that you banned a top bitshares witness from the Bitshares_Witnessses telegram channel just because he disagreed with you about BSIP 42 ?

Did you had the right to do so ,which followed with an instant down voting as witness by bitcrab ?

If thats true it looks for me for a clear abuse of power as admin ,comitee member and BSIP42 initiator .

 

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 投票反对 BSIP42
« on: September 19, 2018, 05:49:14 am »
       很难理解,在论坛发表这样的言论的人,目的是为了BTS好。

为什么?

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