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Just some example based on global traffic on websites according to alexa.

global rank

~4.700 Bittrex volume  $27 Million
~6.000 Poloniex volume  $29 Million
~7.300 Yobit volume  $15 Million
~13.000 kraken volume  $120 Million
~13.000 upbit volume  $151 Million
~28.000 volume  $36 Million
~34.000 livecoin volume  $10 Million
~46.000 btc alpha volume    $3 Million

Now have a look at the global traffic rank according to alexa of the proposed exchanges

~170.000 Sistemkoin $59 Million
~No Data IDAX  $282 Million
~46.000 LAToken  $63 Million
~399.000 RightBTC  $126 Million
~46.000 Cointiger $115 Million

Based on that Data you can clearly see that non of the bottom exchanges could even compete with Livecoin.I would even claim all would even lose the comparing against BTC-Alpha massivly which has Rank 87 and a trading volume of $3 Million.

LaToken has a fake volume generated by the exchange itself + numerous complaints through listings reported in Japan.

What is the number and what is the reality are 2 completely different things, and I suggest before anyone proceed with burning the funds based on Google research without a single interaction with mentioned exchange or at least account with some more experience to be proved - just forget about it.

Most important thing, this was about listing of BitUSD and BitCNY, where USD is currently under BS and not eligible for any listing at all.

Doing nothing is the easiest way also the laziest way, unless you have better solution to provide more liquidity for bitCNY/bitUSD.

Start proper marketing instead overpaying exchange listing.
I'm currently not much online because of some offline activity.I will be back next week and will be publishing my own proposals which i created before.

How does it come i never heard about coinsuper before ?

Ahh i know

One of the smallest exchanges which exist with 99,9% fake volume and many bad reviews about insta dumping.
How much are you going to pay them ?If you want i will open tomorrow also a new exchange and will wash trade it to top 25 on CMC.
How many BTS are you going to pay me for listing bitcny on that exchange ?

I mean seriously you are playing with funds and don't even do your homework where you are going to list BTS or bitcny.

Thats the same like througing away BTS from the window.

Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Social media marketing proposal
« on: January 11, 2019, 01:01:11 am »
To say the truth i don't like it.

- Professional low-cost graphic designer with impressive portfolio to create visual content for us such as - banners, gifs, advertisements, etc. I have asked such designer for aprox. costs per banner/gif creation - $150. We would need one or two per month.
You call a banner/gif for $150 low cost ?
- Professional all in one marketing platform for generating, managing and nurturing leads. This platform will have integration apps for landing pages,  website popups, social promotions, lead activity tracking, lead management, lead intelligence, marketing automation, email marketing and marketing analytics. Example of some needed integrated apps - Base CRM, Constant Contact/Mail Chimp, Eventbrite, Mad Mini, Survey Monkey, Slack, Lemon Stand, Thankster, and more... Aprox costs per month $800.

Why you need a platform like that which is more expensiv than your marketing experts team.The main criteria should be the team generating highly targeted traffic to the social media accounts which converts into likes,fans,followers etc. .I mean seriously $3600 budget from which maybe just $300 goes to the team which generates traffic and $1000 to paid ads which in best conditions will generate 940 clicks in a month ?I would understand that platform when you would generate a high amount of leads.

- Social media game for attracting more likes. The biggest magnet of all is free giveaways. I give you an example of how I envision it: 1. We post good post with quality content for BitShares and good visuals, under which is written, just an example out of my head now : Like and share this post and be the one out of five to earn 100 BTS. Such marketing tactic usually skyrockets the results. Approximate costs per month - $50.

You wanna get numbers instead of a real audience ?Buy PPT traffic where people will like follow or do anything you like for 0.005 cents.Getting this kind of traffic is nothing diffrent than buying interactions from bot accounts.It has the same value.Only diffrence is that the IP's won't be residential.

- Social media and GoogleAds paid adds ( I explained it in detail in my initial post ) - will assign c.a. $1000 per month budget.
So you explained in your first post that the everage cost per CPC is $1.07 .Of course i guess not crypto targeted and of course not tier 1 countries.
But lets assume you will get even that low rate which means you will get for a $1000 budget 940 clicks per month.
How many of them are going to like the fanpage ?

As I mentioned in my initial post I am working full-time and I must be able to write once per week in my free time during the weekend the content of those ads, control and coordinate the weekly campaigns and results. I will have to summarize the results to this community and post monthly the results publicly. The minimum rate for which I will be managing and executing that work will be $800 per month.
Here is the main problem in my opinion.Content and being up to date is the key point of any good social media account.A week prewritten content is nothing people will check on regular basis as they are looking for news/updates which means the interaction on these social media accounts will be low.
Also in my personal opinion your traffic generating strategy is wrong as social media accounts can be way quicker grown,with very targeted traffic and at a way better cost per action.

General Discussion / Re: accidentally sent 10000 BitCNY to death account
« on: January 10, 2019, 03:48:23 pm »
Based on my knowledge you would need to open a BSIP and it must get voted in and this could only be executed on hardfork.
Will be very difficult.

I really love seeing this great progress

From where I stand, you can lock both until relation to the hack is cleared

General Discussion / Re: would you support a cheater as the wintess?
« on: January 01, 2019, 11:58:02 pm »
I didn't wanted to post here before since i haven't seen the code however i'm pretty good in math as i had also to study it.
When seeing first time this thread i instantly thought about probability calculation.
The probability calculation makes it hard to belive that this is just a coincidence or such a well defined script.

Alt explained it very well how big the mathamatical possibility is to hit exectly median price so often.

Having a MSSR of 100 will only lead that borrowers will be even more reckless with holding a secure MCR since there will be no more punishment for bad debt.
Margin walls will be quickly bigger as majority of debt  holder willl be near 1.75 since he can't lose anything.

Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Proxy:baozi - proxy for anti-dilution
« on: December 29, 2018, 12:56:27 pm »
The reason some say not to vote for this proxy is because that it has today 139,535,652 proxied votes, which makes this the most powerful proxy of the community. It votes for both refund400k and refund100k making a lot of projects not getting funded

Not only alt is voting for refund 400k but many other major proxies like


I didn't questioned the voting but the execution from witnesses without informing the community.
There should be at least a 48h prior info on changing the MSSR from all witnesses so traders and other people have time to adjust if needed.

Letting them jump into cold water is not something i consider being trustful and trusting an exchange is a key point for any trader.

Why is there no public announcement from witnesses beside bitcrab that they changed their MSSR to 105% on bitcny.

Only ones who didn't changed MSSR are verbaltech2,clockwork and elmato.

You gave no date or time for people to adjust the MSSR.
Their bots are still feeding MSSR 1.1 which means that no margins are being eaten again in the downtrend.

Why are there no public announcements from witnesses about these major changes ?
You treat the community and expecially traders like your toys which is not acceptable.Most of the witnesses are doing a bad job when it comes to keep the community informed about their actions.

Why are you changing paramenters without even giving the possibility for traders to adjust on these changes by informing them about the major changes and its implemantation dates ?

Jumping from one setting to another setting without proper announcement is not something which brings confidence to traders on DEX.
I wish some witnesses would have some more backbones instead of doing minimalism just to stay a witness.

Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Proxy: xeroc
« on: December 26, 2018, 05:14:38 pm »
Wish you happy holidays

Meta / Re: Spam Bots
« on: December 24, 2018, 01:48:50 pm »
Arent accounts now manually approved?These spamming accounts where old sleeping accounts from 2015.

14 is the most reliable  8)

General Discussion / Re: Bitcny acceptance business has been paralyzed
« on: December 20, 2018, 12:26:15 pm »
You should ask first who created with his ignorance the issue in first place that so many are not creating mortage anymore?

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