0.4.23.1
Just downloaded it today.

Sounds like something that keeps happening to me. If you reboot the client, does that fix it (temporarily)?

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after hesitating for farrrrrrrrr too long I finally pulled the trigger and got 1.14 conversion. I like having 15 more btsx/pts now than waiting 2 years for them to mature. I'm feeling more secure in my decisions to go all in on btsx as I think any major DAC after Nov 5th is more likely to utilize the BTS snapshot than the PTS snapshot like PLAY will be doing. plus I still have my DNS and VOTE that will vest and give me a nice little nest egg to sit on for the long term.

Thanks biophil, this helped give me enough of a push to finally do what needed to be done.

Awesome, glad to see someone benefitted from this!

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Quote from: tonyk2 on November 01, 2014, 10:08:56 pm

Quote from: pgbit on November 01, 2014, 07:39:41 pm

For the record, did you import the wallet or pts keys to other wallets? If so, which ones?

I am curious about that also, as well as what did the anti-virus found, if anything?

Also where did the money on the BTSX chain went?

When I look at the ledger it says it went to "UNKNOWN"    .   How could that be?

I quick scanned my computer for virus using AVAST and didn't have any viruses.   I will do a deep scan and let you know.

Here's a very important question, I'm not sure why nobody has asked it yet:

When you imported your PTS wallet into BTSX, did you make any transactions afterwards? If you did not make any transactions, then your BTSX balance was never moved out of its place on the genesis block, where it had the same private key as your PTS balance. Then if anybody stole your PTS private key, they would have access to your BTSX balance.

If this is what happened, then our community is to blame for not having a solid best practices manual for importing balances.

Where do you store your PTS wallet.dat file? Is it encrypted?

Damn, educatedwarrior. I'm very sorry about this. I do hope to convince you that this isn't a Bitshares problem; it's a private key security problem, which is common to all cryptocurrencies.

The harsh reality is, if you're open source (which is a requirement to most), then BTS shareholders will vote to copy every single feature you implement that works at creating value for your DAC in some way.

People always say this, but I suspect it's far less true than you'd expect. The reality is that people get emotionally attached to their pet ideas and this makes them very resistant to copying effective approaches from different communities. Take Nxt's stance on bitAssets, which can mostly be summarized by "scam ponzi scam the Larimers hate babies!" Nxt's entrenched ideas about how crypto should work kept them from recognizing the power of the bitAsset, so they're missing their chance to implement something similar.


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Let's say somebody wants to invest $10MM into BTS. Let's say that BTS stakeholders want to honor that investment. Do we currently have a system that allows for this kind of capital infusion? Or is all the 'capital infusion' that takes place 'time and skills of hired delegates'?

Would somebody buying $10MM worth of BTS be the answer? I'm thinking not, because that's just value changing hands, right? The new holder of that $10MM worth of BTS isn't being hired, and probably doesn't bring any time/skills to the table.

Is there any way we can 'sell new shares' and have that new money be given to delegate operations? All on the blockchain?

Interesting question... one thing is that if someone buys $10M of BTS, that would drive up the price of BTS, which would increase delegate pay. It's not the exact effect you're talking about, but it's at least qualitatively equivalent.

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This is just one of the oddities of the AGS-style auction. The most risk-averse way to invest is to donate some equal amount every day. If you're donating 1 BTC, send in 0.1 per day for 10 days.

If you're a small investor there's just not much else you can do. If you're a whale I guess you could donate a large amount in the morning hoping to scare everybody else off for that day, but even that is fairly risky.

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Quote from: xeroc on October 31, 2014, 10:58:16 am

I think you will run into problems when parsing TITAN transactions ... as the private key is in the browser .. and you need to scan ALL transactions if they are intended for you ..

Either you focus on the 'mail' protocol which will be used to announce transactions for the lightweight client soon .. or you will only be able to work with non-TITAN transactions .. either way .. the project can lead to a killer-app!!

Mail will be used for this?? How did you learn that?

Can't speak for xeroc, but there was a conversation on the forum between bytemaster and drltc a while back when bytemaster mentioned this is what mail is about. Not necessarily the same thing as KeyMail, afaik.

There are still bids above the call price... so the call has not been triggered.   The feed price protects only when there are no bids above it.   

There are ~$10K BitUSD for sale at above the margin call price.... once those are purchased a margin call will execute.

Cool, thanks for the quick response. I wish I'd known that before this morning's price crash.