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General Discussion / Re: nuBits: 9$ - nice peg
« on: February 06, 2015, 06:49:05 pm »
the circlejerk is strong in this thread

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The price will probably have to change

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General Discussion / Re: some BTS stats
« on: February 06, 2015, 05:21:57 pm »
Good catch

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General Discussion / Re: Where can I buy BitUSD with actual dollars?
« on: February 06, 2015, 03:19:35 am »
We are in great need for this type of onramp.  The bitshares tema has said its in the works (for months now).  We've been waiting.

Please qualify these kinds of statements with "pre-BP" and "post-BP". I've never seen a USD onramp plan that seems legit outside of exchanges like CCEDK or BTER

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Is it possible for the holder of a BitAsset to suddenly and unexpectedly have BTS in their wallet instead, due to the asset being liquidated by this mechanism?

No, not by the normal market operations. This would only happen in a black swan event where there is *global* undercollateralization. Not just a price fall but a very fast fall with no new traders entering.

I think this actually has a decent chance of happening once we add other cryptos as MPAs. For example in the recent XRP or NSR rallies, bitXRP or bitNSR holders would have had a "stop-gains" where their bitAssets are converted to BTS.

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This needs an "explain it to me like I'm 5" version

You're right, I'm locking this until I can think of a better way to go about this, this thread was a bit impulsive and probably wasting time.

Probably off-chain stake-polling with support directly in the GUI is the way to start working towards this.

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1. What happens to votes for a delegate when the delegate is retracted?
2. Can you still vote for a delegate that has rectracted, even though it will not result in this delegate being elected?

If 1 is "Votes are still counted, but they don't matter toward the election" and 2 is "Votes for these delegates are still valid transactions, even though they do not count toward the election", then we have a functioning proposal system. All you would need to do is create a 0% delegate, immediately retract it, and now you have something in the system you can use to vote with without any consequences on the security of the network.

This is correct.

Ohhhhh.... finally this makes sense to me. So they aren't "arbitrary ints" like I thought. They need to refer to the ID of a retracted delegate?  (By the way that is way less flexible than I thought it would be since it doesn't allow you to vote using a number, rather than simply approve, for a specific ballot. But, baby steps ...)

No, they actually are arbitrary ints, vikram must have not seen that change

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General Discussion / Re: BitShares article on coindesk
« on: February 06, 2015, 12:55:46 am »
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“We’ve talked to everyone from Coinbase to Bitstamp to BitPay, half a dozen others, and they all want to integrate with us, it’s just a schedule priority issue,” Larimer said.

Wow holy shit, this is going to bite us in the ass so bad. Dan ALWAYS embellishes on stuff like this, he probably couldn't tell between a polite blowoff and actual interest

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Are you saying that delegate voting should instead change to each independent proposal voting?   Or the Bitshares user interface should be expanded so that delegate's proposals are shown and with great detail?

No, I'm saying we should have proposals with voting done separately from voting for delegates because they are distinct concepts we shouldn't be hacking together

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Should I add an explicit "no" option?
The point is I'm trying to demonstrate that delegates fail as a proposal proxy, so I want it to both be fair and still support my point when we fail to reach a conclusion

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Technical Support / Re: Account Registration
« on: February 05, 2015, 09:44:08 pm »
Hi toast,
Yes, it's exactly the same problem as before:
> BitShares Window says that the account is registered.
> But when I send BitShares (from my Bter.com account) Bter cancells the withdrawal and says: "BTS account is not registered or memo is too long."
Best,
armilo

You should contact bter.com support, seems like the problem is on their end.

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So you want shareholders to vote this del. in if they think delegate based polls are adequate and not vote him in if the want  proposal-based governance?

Many, like me, probably didn't follow the discussion so it is not completely obvious from what you wrote.

Correct
And when does this poll then count as successful (pro delegate based polls) and why? It should be more than half of all voting stake (more than half of all stake is not practical). How can this be measured?

Great question, can you first answer how that is supposed to work for the more general case of delegates-as-proposals? My guess is the best way is "if it's not voted in within X days, that's a no".

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Technical Support / Re: it must be a BUG in shorting
« on: February 05, 2015, 08:57:18 pm »
That address is the same address that created the short. You cannot have generated the transaction without signing for that address. Maybe try "wallet_regenerate_keys 11000" and then "scan" ?

You definitely have the key for it, unless you switched wallets.

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Technical Support / Re: Account Registration
« on: February 05, 2015, 08:47:59 pm »
The Key for account armin39 is:
BTS6sJFixuy9WmFdAWD5rtb21D1bGLREKi8CMzJuzjp9pR5agxZYn

Btw: How can I delete accounts that do not work or that I no longer need?

I tried to register you but it says that that account is already registered. Are you sure you didn't successfully register before?

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So you want shareholders to vote this del. in if they think delegate based polls are adequate and not vote him in if the want  proposal-based governance?

Many, like me, probably didn't follow the discussion so it is not completely obvious from what you wrote.

Correct

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