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General Discussion / More validation for DPOS on bitcointalk
« on: September 12, 2015, 06:26:07 pm »

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The whole thing is slick and looks like it could get a jumpstart on BTS UIA's.

The "short token" is the most interesting thing here, I think.
http://t0.com/shorttoken

Wondering if their tech stacks up though.

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General Discussion / inside bitcoins NYC
« on: April 24, 2015, 05:09:44 am »
Who is going? Monday through wednesday. Maybe we can have an alternate meetup to talk about next generation blockchain apps instead of hearing about basic use cases of bitcoin again...  http://insidebitcoins.com/new-york/2015/agenda

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PM me if you are interested in making some BTS in exchange for writing regression tests. You only need very basic development skills, our test framework just replays CLI logs. Include how many hours/week you can commit, what hourly rate you expect in terms of USD, and when you can start.

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Muse/SoundDAC / Check your NOTE allocation
« on: February 20, 2015, 10:29:09 pm »
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/nmushegian/snapshots/master/TESTNOTE.1-distribution.json

Divide by 10000. Keyhotee founders and 10% allocation to peertracks are excluded.

These are coalesced and then converted into native addresses (you can check what yours maps to with "convert_to_native_address" command)

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/nmushegian/snapshots/master/TESTNOTE.1-distribution-native.json

These are currently distributed as TESTNOTE.1 on devshares  -  you should be able to claim your TESTNOTE.1 using AGS, PTS, and presale keys.

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Meta / Reallocating pay and working on MUSIC
« on: February 19, 2015, 06:02:37 pm »
Some of you may have noticed a lull in activity on the bitshares repo. I've been working on stuff for Music (under NDA) and also stuff for our closed-source trading bots. Seeing as neither of these benefit the main BTS chain directly and I can't keep a public log, I decided to stop taking delegate pay and instead split the income from my delegate 50/50 between Cass and Valentine (both taking massive risk for tiny pay), starting immediately.

I want to use what's left of my "bonus" runway (after taxes and bter hack) on a few BTS projects to experiment to see how things would work if we didn't have to use delegate pay but instead a conditional escrowed lump sum. More on this later.

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If this delegate does not get voted in within, say, 2 weeks, we'll know that the current governance model does not represent shareholder intent.

delegate-proposal-proxy-test.misc.nikolai
(1% pay, but I'll take him offline as soon as he is voted in)

BM and I have gone back and forth, with me claiming we need to get proposal-based governance online ASAP and him arguing that delegates provide a good-enough proxy since shareholders can always use a "poll" delegate. BM claims it would add voter complexity, but I think that's wrong. It is much much easier to analyze self-contained proposals with their own UX than it is to find and analyze various delegate bids. It is also qualitatively different to think about a proposal when it is presented as "shareholders need your input on this yes/no question right now".

It would require no changes to the protocol (it can be hacked in using non-delegate-accounts + burn features, more on this when it's relevant) and minimal changes to the user interface. It can and should wait for after 1.0 even though it could be offloaded entirely to someone like svk if we really wanted and BM probably could have done it in the time he's been working on prediction market stuff.

If you think I'm wrong, arguing in this thread is meaningless, PROVE IT by voting that guy in.

edit:
"So you want shareholders to vote this del. in if they think delegate based polls are adequate and not vote him in if the want  proposal-based governance? "
Yes, this is what I meant. IF delegate-based proposals are "good enough" then shareholders should confirm that they think so.

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General Discussion / some BTS stats
« on: January 28, 2015, 01:15:00 am »
There are about 6300 distinct balances that have account registrations associated with them

Here is a list of how many slates have more than a given amount of BTS for a range of values. This is a decent approximation of unique voters with more than 1000 voting BTS.

Code: [Select]
742 slates have more than 1067  (BTS)
736 slates have more than 1173
726 slates have more than 1291
718 slates have more than 1420
710 slates have more than 1562
708 slates have more than 1718
706 slates have more than 1890
691 slates have more than 2079
687 slates have more than 2287
681 slates have more than 2516
675 slates have more than 2768
653 slates have more than 3044
651 slates have more than 3349
648 slates have more than 3684
641 slates have more than 4052
634 slates have more than 4457
629 slates have more than 4903
612 slates have more than 5394
608 slates have more than 5933
599 slates have more than 6526
595 slates have more than 7179
590 slates have more than 7897
583 slates have more than 8687
577 slates have more than 9555
558 slates have more than 10511
554 slates have more than 11562
549 slates have more than 12718
541 slates have more than 13990
532 slates have more than 15389
524 slates have more than 16928
511 slates have more than 18621
487 slates have more than 20483
475 slates have more than 22532
461 slates have more than 24785
452 slates have more than 27264
446 slates have more than 29990
435 slates have more than 32989
429 slates have more than 36288
403 slates have more than 39917
387 slates have more than 43909
377 slates have more than 48300
354 slates have more than 53130
344 slates have more than 58443
333 slates have more than 64287
325 slates have more than 70716
311 slates have more than 77787
301 slates have more than 85566
289 slates have more than 94123
258 slates have more than 103535
247 slates have more than 113889
241 slates have more than 125277
232 slates have more than 137805
222 slates have more than 151586
219 slates have more than 166744
212 slates have more than 183419
190 slates have more than 201761
177 slates have more than 221937
172 slates have more than 244131
164 slates have more than 268544
158 slates have more than 295398
151 slates have more than 324938
143 slates have more than 357432
137 slates have more than 393175
129 slates have more than 432493
123 slates have more than 475742
110 slates have more than 523317
100 slates have more than 575648
97 slates have more than 633213
95 slates have more than 696535
88 slates have more than 766188
84 slates have more than 842807
77 slates have more than 927088
70 slates have more than 1019797
66 slates have more than 1121776
62 slates have more than 1233954
57 slates have more than 1357349
55 slates have more than 1493084
54 slates have more than 1642393
53 slates have more than 1806632
45 slates have more than 1987296
40 slates have more than 2186025
39 slates have more than 2404628
35 slates have more than 2645091
30 slates have more than 2909600
23 slates have more than 3200560
23 slates have more than 3520616
22 slates have more than 3872677
18 slates have more than 4259945
17 slates have more than 4685940
16 slates have more than 5154534
16 slates have more than 5669987
14 slates have more than 6236986
13 slates have more than 6860684
11 slates have more than 7546753
9 slates have more than 8301428
7 slates have more than 9131571
7 slates have more than 10044728
5 slates have more than 11049201
5 slates have more than 12154121
5 slates have more than 13369533
5 slates have more than 14706487
4 slates have more than 16177136
4 slates have more than 17794849
4 slates have more than 19574334
4 slates have more than 21531768
4 slates have more than 23684944
4 slates have more than 26053439
3 slates have more than 28658783
2 slates have more than 31524661
2 slates have more than 34677127
2 slates have more than 38144840
1 slates have more than 41959324
1 slates have more than 46155257
1 slates have more than 50770782
1 slates have more than 55847861
1 slates have more than 61432647
1 slates have more than 67575911
1 slates have more than 74333503
0 slates have more than 81766853

Possible interpretations:
About 750 people have more than 1000 BTS voting. There are around 70 bitshares millionaires voting. About 500 have more than $100 worth. The top shareholder has as much BTS as the next 3 or 4. All these put together have about as much as the next 20-50? Those in turn might be in a minority counting all voters with over a few hundred dollars's worth. 50% approval might not need anyone with more than a few million BTS.

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DAC 委托人 / "cutoff" delegate
« on: January 26, 2015, 09:11:24 pm »

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We might be interested to see how many paid delegates are only there because shareholders cannot coordinate to elect enough low-pay delegates to force them out. Fortunately we can use delegates like proposals and measure shareholder intent.


I've made a 0% delegate:

paid-delegate-cutoff.misc.nikolai

(He's 1% right now because a wallet bug prevents me from making a transaction to make him 0% - I'll get to it)



我们或许有兴趣看到多少付费的受托人在领工资只是因为股东们没办法调集去选足够的低支付率受托人去挤走他们。幸运的是我们可以用受托人当作是提议并且去衡量股东们的想法。我已经做了一个0%受托人。


paid-delegate-cutoff.misc.nikolai
它现在是1%的支付率因为钱包当前不允许做0%的受托人,不过我会修正这个问题。

如果这个人比真正的受托人得到更多的票,就像股东们的投票在说不认可他,因为给这个受托人的投票就是给尽量多的0%受托人投票。这会让股东们在知道它们有足够的共识去改变现状的时候通过填充足够的低支付率受托人而实现改变。

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Now that the owner of "bter" has been identified, let's find everyone who has been ripped off in the past. I'll make an Official List, and I won't be adding transactions made after today to it, so don't complicate things.

You can prove that you sent to a particular account by revealing the one-time private key for that TITAN transfer.

1)  Find the transaction id (for example, 552457fa)
2)  Enable raw console output:   "enable_raw"
3)  Dump the transaction:  "get_transaction 552457fa"
4)  Find the one-time public key:   

Code: [Select]
{
...
{
        "type": "deposit_op_type",
        "data": {
          "amount": 1000000,
          "condition": {
            "asset_id": 0,
            "slate_id": 4108812535180075062,
            "type": "withdraw_signature_type",
            "data": {
              "owner": "BTSdp9DtsF9tn2R6HyKz3d7FApFS8Lw3ag3",
              "memo": {
                "one_time_key": "BTS7SzpNGjVsQM6z6uHB5N8mDYnryW1G8HhK8g98Kap7mzi22WCN1",     <<<<<<--------- THIS ONE
                "encrypted_memo_data": "b1db28b96a5db7446d19269bc0cd6a974f92cd1fdcb86fe7b7a2a074de7700dbe3d244c585e263b054c54ecf9545d0e6ea3a6f8d538e88731c10eff7d78f0a67"
              }
            }
          }
        }
      }....
}

5) Dump the one-time private key:  "wallet_dump_private_key BTS7SzpNGjVsQM6z6uHB5N8mDYnryW1G8HhK8g98Kap7mzi22WCN1"

I get:   5JjoTS2uqSrn3Exud36dYQQ45a5z3GYC6GnAwP7FTxLUX6Apxuo

You should send this to me in a PM so that I can check that you didn't do anything terribly wrong and reveal info you shouldn't have. Everything that goes on the Official List will eventually be public.

This key comes from a private child derivation which means it will NOT reveal any other private information from your wallet.
This will let us check that you made this transfer by combining the account key for "bter" with the one-time key to decrypt your memo. I'm preparing the tool to do this now.

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DVS 0.6.1 is released and it sure is pretty!

https://github.com/BitShares/DevShares/releases

There are also new cold storage / multisig features which are not accessible via GUI. Please help us test!

https://github.com/BitShares/bitshares/blob/develop/docs/multisig.md
https://github.com/BitShares/bitshares/blob/develop/docs/voter-key.md

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General Discussion / Bounty to find scammer account
« on: January 21, 2015, 08:06:12 pm »
100 bitUSD to anyone who can link the scam account "bter" to an account connected to a real identity. The network is so small that the network analysis should not be that hard.

If anyone else can pitch in that'd be swell.

Let's be careful though, no starting witch hunts, it is quite possible the account would be linked with some legitimate users. We are finding SUSPECTS, not making convictions.

If we can't find him within a few weeks then I'll send the bounty to that last guy who got ripped off.

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