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An economy is only as good as it's people.
An economy is built on the voluntary trades you make with your friends and peers. When considering 'everyone', first consider yourself.
What would be best for ME in that situation?
In rational situations not influenced by mob psychology each individual will act in their own self-interest, and therefore the overall average result will be the summation of those individual choices.
We all share common goals to be happy and content. The only way for everyone to be happy is for every individual to make personal choices that improve their own lives.

A free market will have free people.
A regulated market is a regulation on YOU.
Who knows what's best for you? You or someone else?

A united community is a far greater deterrent and prevention mechanism than any law could be.
Does the law unite us? Or does it serve as a weapon to use against one-another when convenient?
Lawyers get paid regardless of who wins the case.
More laws = more cases = more money from the public into the hands of lawyers.
The law and your imprisonment is a business, and somebody is getting very rich.

Cryptocurrency has the potential to decimate these middlemen and rentseekers.
See you on the other side!

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Rent seeking middlemen to be dis-intermediated

Bankers:
Consumer banking

Lawyers:
Escrow
Forex
Financial contracts
Wills (Dead man's switch)
Collateralized loans.

One of my favourite books is "The Tipping Point" by Malcolm Gladwell
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...explains and analyses the "tipping point", that magic moment when ideas trends and social behavior cross a threshold, tip and spread like wildfire. Taking a look behind the surface of many familiar occurrences in our everyday world, Gladwell explains the fascinating social dynamics that cause rapid change. 
In the book he identifies 3 types of people that are necessary to spread an idea.
Connectors, Maverns and Salesmen.

Connectors are the people that seemingly know everyone. They're likeable and love to spread the next best thing. These are the guys that "take the ball and run with it."

Maverns are the bargain hunters. They love to find a bargain or some helpful technology and then tell the people that they already know about it. They're considerate friends who want everyone they know to benefit.

Salesmen are the explainers. They're charismatic and understand how to relate to people and persuade them why such an idea is cool and they should want to be a part of it.

I would like to do my part as a Mavern and present the information about BitShares and crypto in a clear and readable manner.
The next stage is for connectors - business guru's, big journo's and the "cool" guy of your friends who is the centre of attention at parties.

This led me to thinking about the idea of freedom from control.

People need to understand an idea to truly internalize it and become part of the idea itself.
Humans will never naturally understand the "need" to be controlled and subjugated and so that idea must be imposed by force.

In a world where everyone is accustomed to force and asking for permission - how can humanity be encouraged to search for themselves?
With money and profit! The system that amalgamates the needs and desires of a population into what is known as an economy.
The beauty of free market competition and voluntary trade is that everybody wins. If you volunteerd in the trade, you have gained something that you desire in return for something you already have. Whether that be time, labour, goods or favours.

Sound money efficiently manages an economy to produce and allocate goods where needed.
Control over people and economy is an inefficiency. Sound money and a level playing field of competition would circumvent and remove these inefficient gatekeepers.
With this knowledge, those in power have opted to destroy sound money and bury the truth in confusing terminology and complicated charts.
This buried truth prevents the people from noticing that they are being stolen from via inflation and taxation.

SOUND MONEY IS BACK.
And this time we have the internet of un-censorable information and a permanent record of existence.
These governments stand atop the world, enjoying one last view.

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I've come up with some analogies/notes for understanding the economic foundations one needs to fully appreciate crypto.
Just notes at the moment, but let me know what you think!

Dangers of Inflation and the Sanctity of Scarcity
Money provides a convenient way to compare the subjective, relative value between assets and products.
For example, how else would you buy a ticket to your favourite bands show?
It's hard to trade physical possessions and the band may not even want any of your things. Money represents value to trade for products and services desired. The gig ticket itself is representative and not inherently valuable.

This example can also be used to demonstrate the dangers of inflation.
Inflation of the money supply is when new money is added to the supply. With Gold, this would mean expending effort and investment to find a new gold vein. With fiat currency like the Dollar, this means that a central bank has decided to magic some new money out of thin air.
Let's say your favourite band have issued 5 VIP tickets that entitle you to a personal banquet with the band.
You see this as a great opportunity and so you bid your last $500 on securing the ticket.
You can't wait until summer is over and it's time to claim your prize!

But, wait! On the night before the show the band issue an additional 1,000 VIP tickets and give them away for free!
How do you feel?
Not only did you over pay, you can't get a refund on your ticket and if you sell it to other people you'll barely get $5 back as there are ticket-scalpers everywhere, who are able to offer a better price than you can. Your once-special ticket is now worth less.
Even worse, your valuable and intimate dinner with the band is now instead a huge party, and the band probably won't even notice you!
The band may even have the cheek to tell you to be grateful you were allowed to attend at all.
You feel cheated!

This is how many will feel every time governments print more money and reduce the value of savings!
When summer is over and it comes to retirement, the big night, you will have less than you had planned - as it is impossible to predict how often the central bank and governments will magic-up more money and devalue yours.

Cryptocurrency allows users to be certain that no person has the power to steal from them via inflation of the money supply. The supply is known by everyone.
Your money is yours, securely stored and private.
You may even hold a deflationary currency and your savings will increase the longer you hold it.
No more frivolous spending on poor quality products that are spoiling our environment.
A higher standard will have to be met to in order to persuade you to part with your hard earned savings.


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First, UIAs should be allowed to elected managers the same way BTS can elect delegates. These managers would of course still have limited powers with what they could do with the UIAs.
This is already in BTS 2.0, can't remember what the position is called but they are basically UIA delegates.
I imagine Banx will be using the system to avoid centralization of control of their asset.

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Yes, but I don't think that many others are aware.

The more brothers and sisters that take up residence on the BitShares blockchain, the stronger and more secure your business becomes overall.

You sir are savy enough to know a great deal when you see it.  The initial install cost (to be allowed on-board the BitShares blockchain) will only increase over time, as supply of open business slots decreases and voting shareholders become more critical of what business are awarded the honor.
Why would the shareholders want to stifle innovation and stop new fee-paying businesses from joining?
Sounds a bit too centralbanky for my liking.

The effect would be exactly the same as if existing bts businesses grew by an amount equal to the value of this new business.

Wouldn't the profit seeking shareholders do better to invest some of their hefty profits in R&D to increase the maximum capacity of the blockchain?
If the shareholders were to even entertain the idea of preventing new businesses joining the blockchain, then it must be almost at max capacity of 100k transactions.
At an average of $0.05 per transaction in fees, that would be $5000 in fees paid every second.
That's $157B a year in fees.
I'm sure with that kind of capital the transaction limit and blockchain capacity could be increased and witnesses compensated for whatever expense necessary to continue to increase the volume of transactions possible.

There's no such thing as blockchain bloat!
If a fee was paid, a fair transaction has occurred. Remember that the fees are set by the shareholders. If the fee is too low to cover the cost of storage in the blockchain, then its up to shareholders and delegates to raise it.
BitShares is about freedom and arbitrary limits are counter to that.

Welcome Mark!
Thanks for being the guinea pig case study that shows everybody else what's possible with BitShares!

We've got CCEDK showcasing BitShares the orderbook and Banx Capital showcasing BitShares the asset manager.
Who's next?? (Proud of that pun ;) )

426
It sounds very interesting but it's still limited by Bitcoin's scaling issues.
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Joshua Unseth • 29 minutes ago

Will this be merge mined? How are they going to secure the sidechain?
   
Joey Krug Joshua Unseth • 21 minutes ago

    Sounds like a federated peg, merge mined 2 way peg sidechains are "5 years off" according to the talk Greg Maxwell gave a few weeks back at SF Bitcoin Devs meetup

427
I think Dan said that your funds need to sit on a Registered TITAN account, not just a key.
"send the funds to yourself" he said.
 
It might not be such a good idea to do cold storage or a paper wallet till 2.0 comes out.
 
Or, do it now, then sweep everything to your main account temporarily for import into the 2.0 system.
The "send funds to yourself" bit is because in 2.0 every address holding funds will be migrated as a separate account.
Sending to yourself will store all your funds together, so you'll only have one account when migrating to 2.0.

If you're a HODL'er and don't trade I think it's best to keep funds on paper wallets until Cryptonomex announce the 30 day period before 2.0, when you can import them all to one account for easy migration

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Marketplace / Re: Whiteboard/ Animated Videos for Just $5
« on: June 22, 2015, 10:50:48 pm »
I liked the demo video!
$5 is a good price

I will write a script and hopefully others will chip in for the $5

I think it should focus on bitUSD, with a note that other currencies/assets are available. Keeping it simple and focusing on aspects of bitshares that are similar to traditional banking, but better.

Rough script (I'm not sure how long 30 secs is in text):
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BitShares is a global financial network for everyone. Think of it as the internet of banking.
BitShares takes complex financial processes from the hands of lawyers and bankers and puts them in the hands of the people, all secured by an incorruptible network of provably honest computers.

Introducing BitUSD, the flagship product. It's secure, private and user friendly. No more waiting in line or long phone calls to access your money.
All the familiarity and spending power of the Dollar, but without the limitations of bankers and bureaucracy.
International transfers? No problem! And there are no additional fees either. (Show money beaming around the globe instantly)
Recurring payments are a breeze, set it and forget it. (Show a user paying their electricity bill, set to take payment monthly. A bill comes in the mail, and disappears in a poof of smoke or something visual).

If you like the sound of BitUSD and fancy yourself as a bit of a marketer, the referral system allows you to collect 80% of the fees generated by customers you sign up.
That's up to $80 per person!

BitShares is for businesses and customers alike. If you need your employees to spend from the company account, BitShares' Dynamic Account Permissions allow you to set limits on who can spend and how much!

Would you like to issue a discount voucher or a token specific to your needs? BitShares allows you to create your own User Issued Asset (UIA) and collect all the fees it generates!
Your token can then be traded on the Graphene industrial-grade trading platform capable of 100,000 transactions per second.

How about getting a loan?
The BitShares Bond market allows you to get the capital you need. You could even use your own UIA token as the collateral.
If you've got some savings you can put them to work and earn interest! All loans are secured with collateral requirements of your choosing and repayments are scheduled as you desire.

If you're a gambler or in need of the wisdom of the crowd then BitShares' Prediction Markets will help you.
You can bet on your favorite sports team or see who everyone thinks most likely to win the election, which may well be voted-on using BitShares' Follow My Vote system.

If you'd like to get your hands on some bitUSD or invest in the system itself, go to CCEDK.com and get a Nanocard, the crypto credit card!

I'm not affiliated with CCEDK, but as they seem to be the most prominent exchange I think it's best to spoon-feed viewers as much as possible on where to go.

"www.bitshares.org" should be on display throughout, plus any other "need to know" info

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I'm thinking out loud here, and it's not related to this thread... But I wonder if Russ and Erlich are controlled by the same guy, and if that guy has another active and known account.

That's kind of weird if/when they all talk to each other in the same thread.

I assume everyone is an NSA sockpuppet until proven otherwise.
+5%
This is not paranoia and will only become a bigger issue as bts grows
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140224/17054826340/new-snowden-doc-reveals-how-gchqnsa-use-internet-to-manipulate-deceive-destroy-reputations.shtml

Max Keiser is a pro.  He knows exactly what he is doing.
I'm sure he does. It just may not be what his viewers think he's doing.
He (correctly) criticizes the BBC for propaganda whilst working for Putin's western media (RT).
We should be careful who we trust. Particularly those who say things we all want to hear

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Would it also be safe to disconnect from the net, turn off wifi, run the "paperwallet.html", refresh a few times, then screen capture that browser window and save the image directly to a usb stick?
I'm not a security expert by any means so to avoid scaring anyone unnecessarily I'll leave it for someone else to answer :)

Personally I think the hassle of pen and paper is worth the peace of mind

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Muse/SoundDAC / Re: Rename to Muse
« on: June 21, 2015, 05:12:05 pm »
Muse is a terrible name anyway, trade mark arguments aside. It suggests something whimsical rather than something of value like a bank note.
Notes is an excellent name as it suggests value and music. To coin a phrase musically you use notes.

"Muse" is the new name for "BitShares Music". There's no planned change to "Notes" afaik.


I think "Muse" is a great name for the blockchain. I'm not an attorney, but calling the blockchain "Muse" is clearly different from using the name for a band, show, or performance. Most mainstream users wouldn't be interacting directly with the blockchain.

still, what matters is that it might cause unnecessary problems that can jeopardize the project when we could easily avoid it now.

I understand your concern, but I've heard cob say several times that the legal costs (lawyers) for this project were fairly high, so without an official answer I would tend to assume such an important part like branding has been vetted by the legal team. In any case, it's in their best interest to do so before any official launch.
I would be more concerned about SEO.
How many fan-pages and gig ticket websites will people have to scroll past to find it?
Although it's probably more likely that users will search "Peertracks" or "Competitortracks" etc

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BITSHARES 2.0 PAPER WALLET LINK:
www.paperwallet.bitshares.eu












OUTDATED AS OF OCTOBER 2015.

BTS 2.0 INFORMATION HERE:


I am seeking a way for storing BTS for a longer time.

What would you suggest?

The best way would be to print private keys on paper, but as I understand it is problematic with BTS 2.0 or gives me a recent link how to do that.

I am holding my Bitshares on polonex exchange and Bitshares 2.0 (light client) but do not feel comfortable to put more there because exchange could go down and my everyday computer could get compromised (I can loose passwords) quite easily by spyware or hackers. I am wondering how people with really large sums of BTS are holding them securely. Thank you.


1) Create an account using open ledger
2) Make a brainkey backup
3) store the brain key somewhere VERY SAFE
4) send your funds to that account

optional but HIGHLY RECOMMENDED::
4.1) create a new wallet (call it something different from "default") using your brain key!!
4.2) verify that your account can be recover using the brain key and the funds are there aswell

5) delete your wallet (only if you have at least one backup!!)

Cheers

unless you imported some private keys manually (which you shouldn't) .. then the brain key is all you need to recover access to your funds and accounts (verify by creating a new wallet with your brain key FIRST)


BEFORE ACTING ON ANY INFORMATION FURTHER DOWN THIS THREAD, PLEASE READ THE THREAD IN IT'S ENTIRETY. IT CONTAINS MUCH OUTDATED INFORMATION.

THANK YOU





Hello friends,

I am new to crypto and Bitshares and need some advice.  I have a Windows7 and am trading for Bitshares on an exchange.
I would like to secure my Bitshares in a wallet at this time to send and receive Bitshares.
I am wondering when Bitshares 2.0  and the Moonstone lightweight wallet might happen.  Should I wait awhile for this wallet or install the web wallet now?  I understand that the web wallet is experimental software.  Is it secure?

Thanks.
I would not recommend the webwallet as-is for storage.

Instead, go to https://github.com/xeroc/jshares and make yourself a secure paper wallet (offline).
A paper wallet is a single private/public keypair written on a physical piece of paper.
Funds are sent to the public address.
Funds are spent from the private address. Anyone with knowledge of the private key can spend your money - be careful where you put it.

Here are some step by step instructions, the whole process shouldn't take longer than 5 minutes if you know what to do.

On the right-hand-side of that page (in the middle) is 'Download Zip'. Click.
The file will download as a .rar or a .zip file.
This means that you will need the free software WinRar. (http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm)
Once downloaded, the file should open within winrar.
"Extract" the downloaded files to a known location (desktop?)

Now go to your save-location and open the folder, "jshares-master".
In this folder is a file named "paperwallet".
Open this file.
This will open a webpage displaying a public and private key.
A "refresh" button in the top right allows you to calculate a new address.
Be careful, if you refresh the page or press "refresh" the previous keys will be gone forever unless you have written them down.

Now that you see how it works, unplug the device from the internet and DO NOT reconnect until you are 100% sure you have finished.

Now that there is no internet connection (make sure wifi is off too), refresh the paperwallet webpage a few times to make sure.
Now write down the public and private key twice, on two separate pieces of paper
so that any errors can be found easily and you can store the paper wallet in two locations to protect from housefires/floods etc.
Triple check that you have copied the public and private keys correctly.
Store one paper wallet in a safe place at home, and another with a trusted family member or bury it in a secret location.

DO NOT COPY OR SAVE THE PRIVATE KEY ANYWHERE ON YOUR COMPUTER. This includes ctrl+c - do not do that.
The only place that the keys should be written are on the two (or more) pieces of paper.

Make sure that both paper copies are correct and that you have not compromised your keys by writing them in notepad or something on your pc (DONT DO THAT).

Refresh the paperwallet webpage to get rid of your super-secret keys and then shut down your computer.
When you reboot you can turn the internet on again.

Now you're done! You are now 99.9% secure and this is as far as you really need to go to stay safe :)
These paper wallets are way more secure than the both a webwallet and a client wallet.

If you don't yet own any crypto, buy your bts on an exchange such as https://www.ccedk.com/ and then send the bts to the public key of the paper wallet you have just created!

If you already have bitcoin, then go to https://blocktrades.us/ and choose to trade Bitcoin for BitShares (should be default.)
Paste your paper wallet public key into the appropriate field, click OK and then send your btc to the address displayed.
There is no registration and the bts will be in your wallet as soon as you have one btc confirmation (~10mins).

A note on paper wallets: they behave as a piggy-bank would. You can either drop bts into it as often as you like, or you can "smash" it and spend all the funds at once.
There is no partial-withdrawal.
If you want access to only a fraction of the funds on the paper wallet, you must transfer the remaining balance to a NEW paper wallet - NOT THE OLD ONE.
If you access the paper wallet then your private key is no longer 'cold' as it must be revealed to the internet to spend.
BitShares makes all this easy, so there's no need to worry.

To spend the funds on the paper wallet, all you need to do is import the private key to a internet connected wallet.
This is merely typing in the private key and pressing 'import' or 'sweep'.

You may wish to test this process by creating a paper wallet, funding with a tiny amount, and then making sure that when you "import" your private key again the funds are still there.

==============================================

If you're really cautious then you can do the same process as above, but on a machine that has never before been connected to the internet and has a fresh install of the operating system.

You can download and run a free Virtual Machine and install a fresh version of linux onto it. A VM is a way of running a separate operating system within the OS you already have - e.g its a program that runs on windows, but is a separate environment so is not subject to viruses that may be on the windows host machine.

Download and install https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

While you're waiting for that to download, get your hands on a 32bit linux distro.
http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=171

You will also need a Virtual CD/DVD program, so that you can run your linux file without bothering to burn it to a disc.
http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-magicdisc-overview.htm

Once installed, run virtual box and choose "New" in the top left corner.
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Name: linux 123
Type: Linux
Version: Ubuntu 32bit
Tick: Do not add a virtual harddrive

Click "Create"

Open MagicDisc (or other Virtual CD drive), and navigate to "Virtual CD/DVD-ROM" > "Mount" > And select the linux 32bit file you downloaded.

Now go back to Virtual Box, choose the "linux 123" virtual machine you just created and click "start". The program will then boot, choose the linux 123 "disc" and it will boot linux as a fresh install.

Follow the paper wallet instructions as before.
REMEMBER TO DISCONNECT FROM THE INTERNET!
Now you have closed the webpage and the paper wallet has dissapeared, close the virtual machine.
You will be asked to 'Save machine state' or 'Power off machine'.
Saving is basically standby, you want to Power-Off to be sure that all your paper wallet info is really gone.

Enjoy your 99.999% security!
DONT LOSE THE PAPER WALLETS OR LEAVE THEM FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO FIND AND COPY!

I hope that helps!

433
Technical Support / Re: Video Tutorials of using BitShares wallets
« on: June 21, 2015, 05:06:52 pm »

Hello friends,

I am new to crypto and Bitshares and need some advice.  I have a Windows7 and am trading for Bitshares on an exchange.
I would like to secure my Bitshares in a wallet at this time to send and receive Bitshares.
I am wondering when Bitshares 2.0  and the Moonstone lightweight wallet might happen.  Should I wait awhile for this wallet or install the web wallet now?  I understand that the web wallet is experimental software.  Is it secure?

Thanks.
I would not recommend the webwallet as-is for storage.

Instead, go to https://github.com/xeroc/jshares and make yourself a secure paper wallet (offline).
A paper wallet is a single private/public keypair written on a physical piece of paper.
Funds are sent to the public address.
Funds are spent from the private address. Anyone with knowledge of the private key can spend your money - be careful where you put it.

Here are some step by step instructions, the whole process shouldn't take longer than 5 minutes if you know what to do.

On the right-hand-side of that page (in the middle) is 'Download Zip'. Click.
The file will download as a .rar or a .zip file.
This means that you will need the free software WinRar. (http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm)
Once downloaded, the file should open within winrar.
"Extract" the downloaded files to a known location (desktop?)

Now go to your save-location and open the folder, "jshares-master".
In this folder is a file named "paperwallet".
Open this file.
This will open a webpage displaying a public and private key.
A "refresh" button in the top right allows you to calculate a new address.
Be careful, if you refresh the page or press "refresh" the previous keys will be gone forever unless you have written them down.

Now that you see how it works, unplug the device from the internet and DO NOT reconnect until you are 100% sure you have finished.

Now that there is no internet connection (make sure wifi is off too), refresh the paperwallet webpage a few times to make sure.
Now write down the public and private key twice, on two separate pieces of paper
so that any errors can be found easily and you can store the paper wallet in two locations to protect from housefires/floods etc.
Triple check that you have copied the public and private keys correctly.
Store one paper wallet in a safe place at home, and another with a trusted family member or bury it in a secret location.

DO NOT COPY OR SAVE THE PRIVATE KEY ANYWHERE ON YOUR COMPUTER. This includes ctrl+c - do not do that.
The only place that the keys should be written are on the two (or more) pieces of paper.

Make sure that both paper copies are correct and that you have not compromised your keys by writing them in a notepad or something (DONT DO THAT).

Refresh the paperwallet webpage to get rid of your super-secret keys and then shut down your computer.
When you reboot you can turn the internet on again.

Now you're done! You are now 99.9% secure and this is as far as you really need to go to stay safe :)
These paper wallets are way more secure than the both a webwallet and a client wallet.

If you don't yet own any crypto, buy your bts on an exchange such as https://www.ccedk.com/ and then send the bts to the public key of the paper wallet you have just created!

If you already have bitcoin, then go to https://blocktrades.us/ and choose to trade Bitcoin for BitShares (should be default.)
Paste your paper wallet public key into the appropriate field, click OK and then send your btc to the address displayed.
There is no registration and the bts will be in your wallet as soon as you have one btc confirmation (~10mins).

A note on paper wallets: they behave as a piggy-bank would. You can either drop bts into it as often as you like, or you can "smash" it and spend all the funds at once.
There is no partial-withdrawal.
If you want access to only a fraction of the funds on the paper wallet, you must transfer the remaining balance to a NEW paper wallet - NOT THE OLD ONE.
If you access the paper wallet then your private key is no longer 'cold' as it must be revealed to the internet to spend.
BitShares makes all this easy, so there's no need to worry.

To spend the funds on the paper wallet, all you need to do is import the private key to a internet connected wallet.
This is merely typing in the private key and pressing 'import' or 'sweep'.

You may wish to test this process by creating a paper wallet, funding with a tiny amount, and then making sure that when you "import" your private key again the funds are still there.

==============================================

If you're really cautious then you can do the same process as above, but on a machine that has never before been connected to the internet and has a fresh install of the operating system.

You can download and run a free Virtual Machine and install a fresh version of linux onto it. A VM is a way of running a separate operating system within the OS you already have - e.g its a program that runs on windows, but is a separate environment so is not subject to viruses that may be on the windows host machine.

Download and install https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

While you're waiting for that to download, get your hands on a 32bit linux distro.
http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=171

You will also need a Virtual CD/DVD program, so that you can run your linux file without bothering to burn it to a disc.
http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-magicdisc-overview.htm

Once installed, run virtual box and choose "New" in the top left corner.
Quote
Name: linux
Type: Linux 123
Version: Ubuntu 32bit
Tick: Do not add a virtual harddrive

Click "Create"

Open MagicDisc (or other Virtual CD drive), and navigate to "Virtual CD/DVD-ROM" > "Mount" > And select the linux 32bit file you downloaded.

Now go back to Virtual Box, choose the "linux 123" virtual machine you just created and click "start". The program will then boot, choose the linux 123 "disc" and it will boot linux as a fresh install.

Follow the paper wallet instructions as before.
REMEMBER TO DISCONNECT FROM THE INTERNET!
Now you have closed the webpage and the paper wallet has dissapeared, close the virtual machine.
You will be asked to 'Save machine state' or 'Power off machine'.
Saving is basically standby, you want to Power-Off to be sure that all your paper wallet info is really gone.

Enjoy your 99.999% security!
DONT LOSE THE PAPER WALLETS OR LEAVE THEM FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO FIND AND COPY!

I hope that helps!

434
Nice job, Permie!

Although, there is a lot of pre 2.0 information mixed together with 2.0 information.

Examples include:
  • The description of the derivatives on the blockchain (BitAssets/Smartcoins) reflect BitAsset 1.0 and not the newer BitAsset 2.0. For example, there will not be any more yield/interest in BitAssets 2.0 (unless it is part of the BitAsset definition), although the bond market can make up for that. Also there will not be any 30 day expiration time on shorts anymore (and by the way shorts don't expire all on the same day even with the current BitAsset 1.0 system).
  • Everywhere you refer to witnesses/delegates or just delegates in your post should just be replaced by witnesses alone. The delegates are a very different role in BitShares 2.0 (they are not block producers and they do not get paid).
  • We are trying to tone down the DAC (where the C refers to either company or corporation) metaphor now in an attempt to reduce legal risk. For convenience, keeping the DAC acronym is fine if the C refers to community instead. Some other people prefer the term DAO (decentralized autonomous organization).

The other thing I have an issue with is the argument behind the statement "If the first cryptocurrency fails, what does that say of the prospects of an alternative?". The implication of that statement is that the fact that cryptocurrencies can fail means that it is too risky to support any of them. But companies fail all the time and it still makes sense to invest in them because some of them go on to become wildly successful. It is natural for different systems to gain success and then eventually fail and be replaced by better systems. This is true (although considerably more difficult) even for systems that are heavily dependent on large network effect. For example, MySpace failed and was replaced by Facebook. This can be used as evidence to show that Facebook is not invulnerable and can (and almost certainly will) eventually and gradually be replaced by something else. Despite that fact, Facebook has become tremendously successful, gained so many users, and even those who invested in the Facebook IPO have more than doubled their investment in 3 years. So the fact that an organization's predecessor that is/was in the same industry can/did fail is not in and of itself a reason to not invest in the organization.
Thanks!
I am going to update the information to 2.0 but I will do as Data suggested and post it as a pdf/ebook on a website.

I shall update to DAO.
I thought I would post the original here as the intent and market forces that will lead to bts dominance are the same, only the details/execution have changed.

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The other thing I have an issue with is the argument behind the statement "If the first cryptocurrency fails, what does that say of the prospects of an alternative?". The implication of that statement is that the fact that cryptocurrencies can fail means that it is too risky to support any of them.
I understand your view on this, but bitcoins continued existence is due to game theory. For this reason I don't think that a comparison to a normal business failing quite works.
I think that one day bts will surpass btc in value - I just don't think that bitcoin will fail. I'm not convinced there is a 'Bitcoin killer'.
Perhaps bts is less dependent on game theory to survive as it involves a more human element.
Sharedropping is one reason that may sway me to believe that btc can fail whilst other cryptos live on.
A superior to bts can just sharedrop on the current chain.
Although with the blocksize debate dragging on, and Gavin looking to double the blocksize every 2 years it doesn't seem like bitcoin is going to catch up to the TPS of mainstream adoption for decades, the lightning network is at least a year away and it still won't function as a decentralized exchange. BitShares has a monumental headstart, assuming it works as described.
It's almost unbelievable how few people have spotted the bts freight train in the rear-view mirror of the Bitcoin bicycle.
Maybe bitshares will become the store of value btc was meant to be, who knows.
I just know that it will rise in satoshi value.

My main point is that bts will never be trustless, and there will always be a market for trustlessness. That market is probably tiny compared to the potential market cap of bts.

I saw a reddit post today discussing the new idea 'timechains'.
I don't really understand how it works but it is supposed to allow users to trade on centralized exchanges without giving up control of their btc.
It seems to me like a very complex way to move not-very-far from centralization and I very much doubt it will allow transfers anywhere close to 100k/s.
http://roberts.pm/timechain

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Introducing the timechain

Ordinary time-lock encryption is useful if you know in advance what time frame you want to encrypt something (and obviously if you have the resources to be able to do it), but what if you don’t? What if you want to be able to provide a secure time-locking service to other people so they can encrypt sensitive information to be made available at a future date?

The timechain solves that problem. Using the timechain it is possible to produce information that can only be read after certain times. In its most basic form the timechain is a chain of time-lock encrypted RSA keys at 5 minute intervals and the chain itself can be generated in parallel by using a super computer (e.g. a GPU cluster.)
Stitching parallel keys into a single chain with encryption

In the simple example we started with - a time-lock of 1 year would be roughly equivalent to 1 year of computation. If it takes a whole year to generate a single timechain this concept wouldn’t be very useful. Fortunately this problem can be solved by generating separate N minute keys on a GPU cluster and then stitching them all together with standard symmetric encryption (AES) to form a chain of 5 minute RSA public keys.

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someone used muh meme! i'm famous! life mission is complete!
I felt the same about being quoted in your signature ;)

now I know why BitShares is hard to sell.....

We expect ordinary people to read through all these overwhelming information and then pay for it .

I didn't know there are these much information before .

 :'( :'( :'( :'(
I don't expect end-users to do such thorough research at all.
The referral program and secure SmartCoin banking services will attract them.

This information is to attract businesses to build on top of bts and for investors to see the potential before 2.0 is released. If all this was easy to understand then many of us would not be in the position we are in now.
Nothing is free - extensive research is the cost to feel comfortable betting big on cutting edge technology.

I think UIAs are going to bring in the most customers. Shopping chains will issue discount coupons, gaming services will issue tokens to enhance the experience and innumerable other uses will get their attention.

BTS will capture customers from where they are already comfortable and improve their life - not persuade them to understand crypto.

DPOS 2.0 solves so many of the problems in crypto that its almost too good to be true.
Can't wait!

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