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General Discussion / Re: London meetup
« on: September 30, 2014, 08:07:42 am »
Anyone up for meeting up between the 8th-10th October in London?
I'm heading to the IPEXPO for a day, and would be up for shooting the shit about bitshares over a pint.

Edit:
There's also a docker meetup http://www.meetup.com/Docker-London/events/204409602/ on the 8th.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [POLL] Preference of delegate VPS?
« on: September 28, 2014, 12:22:58 pm »
Quote from: xeroc on September 28, 2014, 12:10:04 pm
the right answer is: all of the above!

if you ask for a single delegate machine than you can randomly pick one I'd say


edit: the delegates are synced to UTC via Network Time Protocol and can be located anywhere as long as you have a reasonable connectivity and power supply
how much bandwidth does a delegate use monthly?

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Stakeholder Proposals / [POLL] Preference of delegate VPS location?
« on: September 28, 2014, 11:43:49 am »
I've been seriously considering establishing a delegate campaign, but have been unsure where to base the VPS.
BTC38/BTER seem to be the most active exchanges, and BTSX/CNY seems to be the most actively traded pair.

I'm thusly planning on basing my delegate's VPS in singapore/japan, probably one of the following:
http://www.simplercloud.com/prices/
http://www.vpsnine.com/hosting/index.php#tab2
http://www.vpsplaza.net/sing-packages.php
http://www.cloudv.kr/rew1/cloud/cloud_v_linux-2.1.html
https://my.starrydns.com/cart.php?gid=46&language=english%EF%BF%BDcy%3D2

Anyone got any preferences or intel on what would be the best VPS in south east asia?

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General Discussion / Re: Poll about Bitshares-Bitcoin diversification.
« on: September 28, 2014, 11:00:11 am »
100% BTSX
I see a strong future in btsx, especially with the potential for hundreds of market pegged trading pairs, and the delegate campaigns begining to be very competitive.

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Muse/SoundDAC / Re: PTS snapshot date. Ensure you have Notes at launch
« on: September 27, 2014, 09:39:58 pm »
Is it possible to snapshot bitPTS that exists in the bitshares-x system?

Edit: (posted this to reddit too, but this is probably a better place to discuss this):

Quote
I understand that bitshares-x is just one DAC, but i'm unsure as to whether future DACS created by the same developers that created BTSX will only snapshot PTS/AGS for initial distribution of the new DAC, or if a snapshot of BTSX will also be taken.

I've been looking into PTS/AGS - AGS was a once off developer fund so you can only really buy PTS in order to get a share of the next new DAC without buying the new dac coins from an exchange.

What's worse is that PTS is a proof of work cryptocurrency that whilst once was a cpu only crypto, is now a GPU minable crypto using semi-untrustworthy mining software. Why hasnt PTS been upgraded to DPOS yet? People are kinda saying that PTS has been abandoned..

Wouldn't DPOS make more sense? As we would see the newly created DACS becoming the most trusted delegates, which would in turn help fund core development of DACS?

http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/BitShares_Social_Consensus

The social consensus states that 10% goes to PTS, 10% goes to AGS minimum, but couldnt another 10% go to BTSX holders?

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Technical Support / DPOS - does your vote expire?
« on: September 27, 2014, 09:35:49 pm »
So in order for my vote to count, I need to send a transaction to myself (the entire balance?), but does the value of that vote go down every several thousand blocks, or is it permenant?
Is it permenant, but the 5% inactivity fee will be introduced to try to keep people from forgetting about btsx?

I think it makes sense to make your vote worth less slowly in increments the longer you don't transfer those coins.. I suppose it's kinda like how reddcoin is introducing velocity into posv, but instead of to encourage an active economy, to encourage an active democracy/election process for dpos? I wouldn't lose any coins apart from the 5% if i'm inactive for a year..

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Price Feed Difference
« on: September 26, 2014, 01:13:24 pm »
Quote from: tonyk on September 26, 2014, 12:49:44 pm
Quote from: cryptillionaire on September 26, 2014, 12:33:00 pm
Quote from: emski on September 26, 2014, 12:26:23 pm
Quote from: tonyk on September 26, 2014, 12:20:00 pm
The current situation with only 2 feed scripts is far from ideal...suggestions to make this undesirable situation permanent, with all of them paying /receiving the same feed, is nothing short of outrageous....

No but it could be possible to buy multiple feeds. However this is significant legal trouble...
Yeah, I even posted two options we could use. IMO, I'd think that these paid for services would be more reliable than say yahoo's finance tickers, because there's already thousands of forex traders using these services. Do what you want man, i'll be doing this when delegate income can cover the expenses.

Do as you wish... just do not suggest something like this:

Quote from: cryptillionaire on September 26, 2014, 09:06:32 am

perhaps all of the delegates could create a corporation (perhaps establishing itself as a single entity) and get a single license for an expensive price feed and allow everyone to use it?
That's just like your opinion man, you don't own this DAC and nor do I. Your opposition is noted on this subject.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Price Feed Difference
« on: September 26, 2014, 12:33:00 pm »
Quote from: emski on September 26, 2014, 12:26:23 pm
Quote from: tonyk on September 26, 2014, 12:20:00 pm
The current situation with only 2 feed scripts is far from ideal...suggestions to make this undesirable situation permanent, with all of them paying /receiving the same feed, is nothing short of outrageous....

No but it could be possible to buy multiple feeds. However this is significant legal trouble...
Yeah, I even posted two options we could use. IMO, I'd think that these paid for services would be more reliable than say yahoo's finance tickers, because there's already thousands of forex traders using these services. Do what you want man, i'll be doing this when delegate income can cover the expenses.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Price Feed Difference
« on: September 26, 2014, 09:34:59 am »
Quote from: xeroc on September 26, 2014, 09:10:16 am
Quote from: cryptillionaire on September 26, 2014, 09:06:32 am
So to what degree do you massively disagree with delegate relations?
Are we allowed to talk to each other, are we allowed to use the same professional/paid for fiat price feeds, are we not allowed to establish a foundation?
What sense does it make to have an median price feed on the exchange if delegates use the same external source?

what if mining pool operators in bitcoin would collude?

It's not forbidden to talk to each other .. but once you start ... things up and trick the network, the stakeholders will find out and propose a downvote ... that will work much more efficiently than a ghash poll on reddit ..
Are we not moving towards a similar scenario with there only being two(?) python scripts for delegates to publish feeds with? Of which many delegates just use the default feeds, putting power into the hands of the exchanges to manipulate our market.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Price Feed Difference
« on: September 26, 2014, 09:06:32 am »
Quote from: tonyk on September 26, 2014, 08:43:33 am
Quote from: cryptillionaire on September 26, 2014, 08:39:07 am
Quote from: emski on September 26, 2014, 08:30:16 am
Quote from: cryptillionaire on September 26, 2014, 08:27:25 am
http://www.xe.com/datafeed/ Has anyone considered using a professional source of currency data?
It actually looks quite expensive:
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Daily: US $540 / year
Hourly: US $2,160 / year
Quarter Hour: US $4,320 / year
Minute: US $6,480 / year

Any alternatives? I could see the quarter hour being justified once delegates are earning above that, but for now it's a massive expense..

Only if BitsharesX blockchain was legal entity able to purchase the above-mentioned feed....
It could pay for the bills from the fees.
Well.. delegates could individually purchase said feeds.. perhaps all of the delegates could create a corporation (perhaps establishing itself as a single entity) and get a single license for an expensive price feed and allow everyone to use it?

I am here, on this forum that is, for several proposes (self appointed, btw).... One of them is to post the below regarding your bolded text:

...
Woah! Very hostile man, check yourself before you wreck yourself.
So to what degree do you massively disagree with delegate relations? Are we allowed to talk to each other, are we allowed to use the same professional/paid for fiat price feeds, are we not allowed to establish a foundation?

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Price Feed Difference
« on: September 26, 2014, 08:39:07 am »
Quote from: emski on September 26, 2014, 08:30:16 am
Quote from: cryptillionaire on September 26, 2014, 08:27:25 am
http://www.xe.com/datafeed/ Has anyone considered using a professional source of currency data?
It actually looks quite expensive:
Quote
Daily: US $540 / year
Hourly: US $2,160 / year
Quarter Hour: US $4,320 / year
Minute: US $6,480 / year

Any alternatives? I could see the quarter hour being justified once delegates are earning above that, but for now it's a massive expense..

Only if BitsharesX blockchain was legal entity able to purchase the above-mentioned feed....
It could pay for the bills from the fees.
Well.. delegates could individually purchase said feeds.. perhaps all of the delegates could create a corporation (perhaps establishing itself as a single entity) and get a single license for an expensive price feed and allow everyone to use it?

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Price Feed Difference
« on: September 26, 2014, 08:27:25 am »
http://www.xe.com/datafeed/ Has anyone considered using a professional source of currency data?
It actually looks quite expensive:
Quote
Daily: US $540 / year
Hourly: US $2,160 / year
Quarter Hour: US $4,320 / year
Minute: US $6,480 / year

Any alternatives? I could see the quarter hour being justified once delegates are earning above that, but for now it's a massive expense..

Alternatives:
http://www.xignite.com/forex/product

...Think one of us could grab said feeds and distribute it? Kinda a breach of ToS.. hmm : /

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Price Feed Frequency
« on: September 26, 2014, 08:22:26 am »
Should we establish a standard price feed update frequency? Surely every delegate should be updating it whenever they get the chance, not just once a day.
At 0.1btsx/feed update, would it be unreasonable to ask delegates to imediately publish feeds every time they publish a block?
What's the consensus on this issue?

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Linux delegates - update bash to evade shellshock vulnerability!
« on: September 26, 2014, 08:19:34 am »
Quote from: cube on September 26, 2014, 02:37:16 am
Quote from: cryptillionaire on September 25, 2014, 06:06:40 pm
http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/09/concern-over-bash-vulnerability-grows-as-exploit-reported-in-the-wild/
Aparantley this has a huge impact on linux/unix/osx servers with bash installed; if you've got it installed, please update it and keep ontop of this news!

Updated to patched bash.

I do not see it as much of a threat. The exploit only works if a delegate is using shared hosting or running services such as Web server which has bash escape.  I doubt any delegate would do that.
Shared hosting like 2 cores out of 16 on a cloud provider? Cause I see that as quite a likely scenario.
Either way, best to be safe and patch it ;D

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Stakeholder Proposals / Linux delegates - update bash to evade shellshock vulnerability!
« on: September 25, 2014, 06:06:40 pm »
http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/09/concern-over-bash-vulnerability-grows-as-exploit-reported-in-the-wild/
Aparantley this has a huge impact on linux/unix/osx servers with bash installed; if you've got it installed, please update it and keep ontop of this news!

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