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General Discussion / Re: Does bytemaster ever sleep?
« on: January 20, 2014, 07:28:14 pm »
I cannot do it all and have been leaning heavily on Dan Notestein, Super3, Brian Page, Bo Shen, and others to handle their domains with minimal oversight.    I am honored to be working with some great and passionate people.   Eventually I hope Invictus the movement will be entirely decentralized and spawn 1000's of profitable businesses each operating without requiring my own oversight or control.   

Thanks for all of your support!  Posts like these really lift my spirits when it seems I am surrounded by a sea of critics complaining about delays or imperfections in our efforts.   

Great things ahead!
Thank you for your effort bytemaster and other  fellow co-workers. In every project are delays and imperfections. Complaining is easy, but the real work is not so easy and who of the critics really helps...

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This seems to be a tricky question. Let's see if I understood the whole thing and look at it from the inside:

1) 4 million BEX exist.
10 million BitUSD exist, each (on average) with a collateral of 0.2 BEX. The internal market prices them at 0.1 BEX. 2 million BEX are bound in collateral for BitUSD.

2) The external value of BEX drops from $10 to $6.67.
The internal price of BitUSD rises to 0.15 BEX.

3)This causes the first margin calls. (If all BitUSD had been created at the same price, all with exactly 0.2 BEX collateral this would cause an instantaneous short squeeze. But let's assume they were not.)
The first margin calls destroy some BitUSD and drive the price up to 0.16 BEX (with the external value of BEX unchanged at $6.67 one BitUSD is now $1.07).

4) $1.07 per BitUSD triggers shorts to create new BitUSD at 0.16 BEX, these now have a collateral of 0.32 BEX.

5) This goes on for a while: The exteral price of BEX continues to drop, more margin calls kill old BitUSD with small collateral, more shorts create new BitUSD with large collateral. Finally 3,999,999 BEX are bound in collateral but still 10 million BitUSD exist. The exteral value of BEX is near $5.

Really?

6) The last, only available BEX is highly sought after because it is the only way to short BitUSD. Its price should not be able to fall below $5. Demand should stop its external price from falling this low in the first place.

The external price of BEX can only fall more if more free BEX is available. The only way this would happen if BitUSD were voluntarily sold internally.

--> If all longs hold onto their BitUSD this should maintain their value.

Not the total amount of BitUSD is limited by the exchange rate of BTS/USD but the exchange rate of BTS/USD is limited by the total amount of BitUSD. :)
Thanks for perfect explanation. I have read the Bitshares white paper, but was not able to think as described. No free BEX means there is nothing to sell externally. You can lose  your BitUSD or any other Bitasset only in case of totall colapse(destruction) of Bitshares system. Anyway situation as described in point 6) would be very dangerous for trust in Bitshares system or not? What do you think?

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If BTS drops to 1 USD externally, BitUSD value in BTS will drop too.  BitUSD is value of USD in BTS + - some % of trading spread.
Shorts will be happy,  because sold BitUSD for 10 BTS and can buyback for 1BTS. No need for covering.
Longs have the same amount of BitUSD + some dividends, but 10x times less BTS.

I hope somebody will review and confirm or deny my opinion.

Reviewed it and going to deny it, sorry.
You are thinking the wrong direction: If BTS drops to 1 USD externally, BitUSD value in BTS will rise tenfold.
I missed that shorting BitUSD is reverse to shorting real USD. Am I right this time?

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If BTS drops to 1 USD externally, BitUSD value in BTS will drop too.  BitUSD is value of USD in BTS + - some % of trading spread.
Shorts will be happy,  because sold BitUSD for 10 BTS and can buyback for 1BTS. No need for covering.
Longs have the same amount of BitUSD + some dividends, but 10x times less BTS.

I hope somebody will review and confirm or deny my opinion.

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I like the idea very much. Bitmit is down and I do not see any real replace for it.
Probably it would be more reliable than a web page. Not so easy to interrupt.
Bitmit was down very often.

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General Discussion / Re: Raycoin DAC
« on: January 08, 2014, 06:12:38 pm »
I remember during dot com buble was a project for payed distributed computing inspired by SETI.
Abandoned because of lack of risk capital and also(probably) because of fear for security(privacy) of the data recorded.
Companies do not risk sharing private data.

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