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中文 (Chinese) / cn-vote社区关于ioex为社区官方见证人的申明
« on: September 26, 2019, 05:06:22 am »
                                                                                                                   
cn-vote社区关于ioex为社区官方见证人的申明

     ioex为比特股cn-vote社区官方见证人,为cn-vote社区组成部分。ioex由cn-vote社区负责运行,旨在尽工会一切努力做好见证人工作,及时更新设备,提供稳定节点出块,提供实时公正喂价,配合相关网络节点运行与测试工作。工会不求在见证人盈利,ioex代表了cn-vote社区对比特股网络稳定运行的责任与贡献。见证人如有盈余,将全部用于回购cnvote工会积分。
    cn-vote 社区是比特股散户自发形成的一个民主组织,是一个散户韭菜集结地,让社区每个人的声音被听到,是社区建立的初衷。社区宗旨是一切为了比特股,为了社区散户的利益,不任由大户,空军收割,韭菜虽小,也有力量。不任由不利于社区散户利益的各项议案通过,发起提名利于社区利益的各项议案。
    加入公会每月即可享受公会积分cnvote空投(已二级市场交易)。欢迎设置公会投票代理权,成为公会一员!
    设置工会投票代理方法:在投票选项中点击“代理”选项,在对话框中输入“cn-vote”确定即可。

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: cn-vote投票公示
« on: September 26, 2019, 05:04:03 am »
1.发起投票:撤销roelandp见证人投票
2.  理由: roelandp未实行usd区黑天鹅保护,四次喂价检查中两次过低
3.  方式:由cn-vote工会核心群发起投票。
4:结果:半数投票通过,执行结果,予以撤票。

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中文 (Chinese) / cn-vote社区关于个别见证人喂价出错的警告
« on: September 25, 2019, 02:03:22 pm »
今天凌晨至上午,本社区监督人员共检查了四次喂价,发现主要的问题:
一是喂价下调过快,但是上涨时上调过慢,导致大量投资者不必要的爆仓损失,手续费高涨。
二是个别见证人usd区没有实行黑天鹅保护,喂价过低。

须知即使是短时的低喂价,也会造成大量损失,给空头插针提供极大方便。这是不能被接受的。

发现的问题见证人主要有7个(不完全统计):
1、xeldal:未实行usd区黑天鹅保护,四次喂价检查中有三次过低。
2、verbaltech2:未实行usd区黑天鹅保护,四次喂价检查中有三次过低。
3、roelandp:未实行usd区黑天鹅保护,四次喂价检查中有两次过低。
4、clockwork:四次喂价检查中有两次过低。
5、bhuz:四次喂价检查中有一次过低。
6、zapata42-witness:四次喂价检查中有一次过低。
7、blokchnd:四次检查中有一次过低。

目前公会在这7人中投了roelandp、bhuz、zapata42-witness3人。

社区对以上见证人予以警告,如不予以改正,社区将会对社区已投票见证人对其撤票处理,呼吁对没有执行黑天鹅保护的见证人撤票,并呼吁各位见证人能做好本职工作,维护链路稳定,及时出块,提供实时公正喂价。

证据如下。



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General Discussion / Re: What is the CN-Vote Vision?
« on: September 17, 2019, 01:39:38 am »
Hello, I have some questions for you.

How long do you anticipate keeping the refund 400K proposal voted to the top?
Do you expect to allow funding for the existing workers? if so when?  At What time?

Can you tell me about your vision for BitShares?  Can you give me a mission statement?  What are your goals for BitShares?

What brings value to BitShares?

How do you count and measure value?

What metrics do you look at?

What is the most effective method to build value at Bitshares?

Where do you see BitShares going in the Future?

What type of workers do you want to see more of?

What type of projects do you dislike or hate?

Marketing, advertising
What strategy should BitShares be using for marketing?
What strategy should BitShares be using to get more people to BitShares?

Liquidity
What strategy should BitShares be using to improve liquidity?
How should BitShares get more people to trade at the DEX?

Investing
How do we get more people to invest in BitShares?
What new areas of expansion offer the most hope for profits in the future?


To help companies make a vision there is a process that is done. In Business it is common to look at a Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities and Threats. This is part of business planning. I do not know the name for this in Chinese, but there is probably a similar process. It is very common in Business. This looks at the good and the bad in BTS, and then it looks at the good and the bad outside the BTS community.

Can you tell us what you think BitShares Biggest Strengths Are?
How should these be used?

Can you tell us what you think BitShares Biggest Weaknesses are?
What do we need to do to fix these?

Can you tell us what you think BitShares biggest Opportunities are?
What do we need to do to take advantage of these?

Can you tell us what you think BitShares biggest Threats are?
How do we need to avoid them?

What are the Biggest Problems BitShares faces in the Long Term?

What are the Biggest Problems BitShares faces in the Short Term?

What solutions to these problems do you think the BitShares Team needs to work on?

I know this is a lot of questions. I hope you can answer a few.  I also know there can be multiple answers and multiple opinions. As a union of Chinese voters, understanding the goals can help the community to work better. 

Thanks,
Cryptick1
Thank you for your question. Oh, so many questions。
I will simply answer some questions. I hope that you can get the attitude of our community.
400k we don't think it is wrong, it adds a threshold to the worker. To be honest, too many workers before have really failed, and our workers lacked audits, which led to many people with ulterior motives exploiting our rule loopholes. It is the gold that always shines, and the excellent worker will not stop moving because of this threshold.

 cn-vote is not against everything. We are strongly supportive of such excellent teams as core. Strictly speaking, there are very few communities like us that are doing our best to work for the bitshares. If you know enough about our community, you will admire the contribution behind us.

Compared to those who are keyboard wise and have ulterior motives, our community has really paid too much behind the scenes and suffered too many misunderstandings.

In our community, many are btsers for more than 6 years. Members of our community basically hold a lot of bts, just like a company, there is no more concern about the future of the company than a large number of people holding company stocks,If an employee doesn't even own the company's stock, then he may be more concerned about whether his salary is higher, whether the welfare is better, whether the car and the house should be replaced, he will not care about the company's life and death. .

Behind our community, we have put a lot of effort into the development of the bitshares. All of this is voluntary and there is no compensation.Includes various obligations for marketing, promotion, and various activities. I think you also know that without a large number of users in China, BitShares will not have today's success. The entire Chinese community is well aware of the development of BitShares.

WeChat ID "cn-vote" is our WeChat public account, if you want to contact us. Please add:Wen_Dehua.I feel that if you have misunderstood us or need to ask for our vote, you can add our WeChat to our core group communication. If you do this, you will understand that cn-vote has been misunderstood.

thanks

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General Discussion / Re: Cn-vote union question and answer
« on: September 16, 2019, 11:46:36 am »
WHAT IS DPOS?

DPOS (Delegated Proof of Stake) is a consensus algorithm based on voting elections. It is a bit like a democratic conference. The currency holder selects several representative nodes to operate the network, and uses professionally run network servers to ensure the blocks. Chain network security and performance. In the DPOS mechanism, there is no need to calculate the mathematics problem, but the holder of the currency chooses who to say the producer. If the producer is incompetent, it may be voted out at any time.

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General Discussion / Re: Cn-vote union question and answer
« on: September 15, 2019, 05:33:42 am »
Thank you.

You mentioned that support for the UI worker was under review because 'development is slow'. Can you please explain what you mean by this?

I am asking because:

A) It is not clear what you mean by speed. Do you mean the frequency of releases? The speed of iteration to visual elements? The number of features or fixes?

B) It is not clear what you are comparing speed to. Are you comparing the speed of this worker to other blockchains you are involved in? Or to a generic idea of 'development'?

C) It is not clear or obvious to me how removing funding will increase 'speed' however it is defined. Can you please explain your rationale here?

Finally, if speed - however it is defined - is actually an issue, why do we not see greater participation from people within the cn-vote group who are critical of it? We all have the chance to help bitshares - with or without pay, and many of us who work on gateways for Bitshares already contribute in various forms.

These are genuine questions, and I appreciate a genuine response. We don't need to agree, but we do need to understand each other.

Thank you for your question.
We are not totally against UI. We also know that UI is a lot of development difficulties due to historical willingness. Just think that UI team still have some problems, so we hope you improve.
1): The core staff of your UI team has limited participation time this year and hope to participate more in development. Your staff should also be more fixed.
2): The bitshares system is complex. To achieve all functions, the team's planning and design capabilities are very high. we hope that your team will work hard to overcome difficulties and solve difficulties for the bitshares

We can feel the sincerity of your willingness to find problems and improve your problems. The UI is already working. we hope that UI team will complete the new version as soon as possible. The work is excellent. We will vote for you more in the future.
I hope we can communicate more..

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General Discussion / Re: Cn-vote union question and answer
« on: September 15, 2019, 05:18:00 am »
Hello, thanks for writing this thread.

What is your opinion on third party exchanges voting with BTS deposits?

Thanks.
Thank you for your question. I checked the forum materials and understood the questions you asked. We will pay attention to this matter. If there is a clear support result, we will inform you at the first time.

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General Discussion / Cn-vote union question and answer
« on: September 14, 2019, 04:55:38 pm »
In view of the many questions people have on the cn-vote in the telegram group. Deliberately opened this forum post. If you have any questions  about cn-vote, you can ask questions here, we will answer.thank you.

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: cnvote积分管理规则
« on: September 12, 2019, 04:20:06 am »
            社区官方地址

微博:      比特股cn-vote社区  https://weibo.com/u/7295423716
         
微信公众号:比特股工会cn-vote

Telegram:    比特股工会电报群cn-vote  https://t.me/cnvote      @cnvoteofficial

Twitter:      cn-vote @CnVote

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: cn-vote社区治理规则
« on: September 12, 2019, 04:18:34 am »
            社区官方地址

微博:      比特股cn-vote社区  https://weibo.com/u/7295423716
         
微信公众号:比特股工会cn-vote

Telegram:    比特股工会电报群cn-vote  https://t.me/cnvote   @cnvoteofficial

Twitter:      cn-vote @CnVote

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: cn-vote社区治理规则
« on: September 12, 2019, 01:49:03 am »
cn-vote社区工会投票代理账号:cn-vote

现在只要大家到BTS内盘把手中的票投给此账号,以后我们将做自己的主人。此账号为社区成员多签共同管理,今后社区有任何建议等都可以一起讨论,并发表提案参与投票。

投票方法:
鼓鼓钱包-进入钱包页面-投票-代理-输入cn-vote 确定就可以!
BTS++钱包 - 服务界面-设置代理-输入cn-vote 确定就可以!

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: cnvote积分管理规则
« on: September 12, 2019, 01:48:21 am »
cn-vote社区工会投票代理账号:cn-vote

现在只要大家到BTS内盘把手中的票投给此账号,以后我们将做自己的主人。此账号为社区成员多签共同管理,今后社区有任何建议等都可以一起讨论,并发表提案参与投票。

投票方法:
鼓鼓钱包-进入钱包页面-投票-代理-输入cn-vote 确定就可以!
BTS++钱包 - 服务界面-设置代理-输入cn-vote 确定就可以!

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中文 (Chinese) / cnvote积分管理规则
« on: September 12, 2019, 01:20:58 am »
cnvote积分管理规则
1: cnvote简介。

cnvote积分是比特股中文社区cn-vote社区发行的全球通用积分,是基于比特股区块链发行和管理的积分,为比特股cn-vote社区官方发行的唯一积分,是比特股cn-vote社区为所有代理给cn-vote的成员提供的积分奖励福利。cnvote积分总量12亿。

2:空投规则。

自2019年9月1日起,将逐月免费空投给将BTS投票权代理给社区的所有用户。投票代理cn-vote的用户,社区管理员将每月随机快照4次,按照投票代理数取平均值,按比例投放积分。

3:回购规则。

社区将利用票权,在维护比特股系统稳定,比特股良性发展的同时,最大限度为社区成员谋求各种利益。拥有cnvote积分能享受社区的各种福利。未来社区的所有收入,将全部用来从市场上回购cnvote积分。

社区未来潜在收入点:
1).社区作为推荐人的收益。
2).社区为比特股节点优化,将扶持社区官方见证人。见证人收入除保证见证人节点高质量稳定运行外,所有盈余的收入将用于回购cn-vote积分。
3).工会谋求运营社区网关。
4).百城链的收益分成。
5).视未来的发展情况而定,不排除将cnvote积分上线主流交易所的可能。

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中文 (Chinese) / cn-vote社区治理规则
« on: September 12, 2019, 01:19:19 am »
cn-vote社区治理规则

1:总则。
   cn-vote社区是比特股散户自发形成的一个民主组织,是一个散户韭菜集结地,让社区每个人的声音被听到,是社区建立的初衷。社区宗旨是一切为了比特股,为了社区散户的利益,不任由大户,空军收割,韭菜虽小,也有力量。不任由不利于社区散户利益的各项议案通过,发起提名利于社区利益的各项议案。

2:组织形式。
cn-vote社区,下设交流群,核心群,多签管理员,对外统一发言人。

1)   交流群。交流群自发产生,一切投票代理给社区的散户,均可自发形成交流群,交流群自发形成后,可由群主报核心群讨论通过,成为官方承认的交流群,官方承认的交流群,核心群对外公布,官方承认。作为社区的组织成员,交流群人员有任何提案和建议,可提交群内持仓代理给社区的前100用户,提交给核心群审议讨论。

2)   核心群。核心群是社区的核心权力组织力量。核心群由投票代理给cn-vote社区的用户产生,一切投票代理前100的社区用户,均可直接加入核心群,参与所有社区的各项事项。核心群成员严格维护社区的利益,核心群成员如做出有损社区利益的事项,永久拒绝加入核心群。核心群有且只有一个。

3)   多签管理员。多签管理员下设7人,为核心群的权利实施人,由核心群民主产生,任期2月,连续任职不得超过两届。多签管理员是整个社区的权力代表实施人,同时也是cn-vote账户多签拥有者。核心群任意成员可以自荐为多签管理员,核心群直接由当前群主根据自荐情况,发起投票,产生多签管理员。多签管理员作为核心群的常驻代表,负责发起各项议案提案,组织前期各项议案的初步多签管理员讨论结果,发由核心群投票,照会交流群知悉,交流群对议案结果有异议,视持仓代理用户规模,有权发回核心群重议。核心群群主由多签管理员得票最多的成员兼任。多签群主根据核心群持仓代理审查规则,踢除核心群不合格用户。多签管理员任内如持仓变化跌出代理前100,任期核满,自动退出多签管理员和核心群。多签管理员如有违规舞弊情况,核心群有权立即停止多签管理员职务。


4)   对外统一发言人。对外统一发言人下设2人,由核心群自荐,核心群投票通过,任期半年,作为社区对外的统一发言人,负责维护论坛,媒体等对外发声通道,发言人所有发言,必须经过多签讨论同意,报备核心群知悉。对外统一发言人如有违规舞弊情况,核心群有权立即停止对外统一发言人职务。


3:投票规则。
核心群成员每人投票权相同,实行一人一票制。投票日早上群主群公告通告投票事项,当日晚上9点投票。如是选举投票,核心群人员自荐或者推荐(推荐方自身同意),直接核心群民主投票。投票时间一天,群主在这一天中至少提示三次投票。第二天晚上九点截止,投票参与人数大于群内三分之一,统计投票结果,进行公示,执行结果。如果投票参与人数没超过群内人数三分之一,时间无限延续,直到参与投票人数超过群内人数三分之一,统计投票结果,进行公示,执行结果。

4:核心群持仓代理审查规则。
   多签管理员换届选举前,当任多签群主核查核心群每位账户持仓代理情况:固定时间内,被审查用户用自己的内盘账号发送一个cnvote给cn-vote账号并备注自己的微信号,多签群主审查资质,做好记录,保存为微信名加内盘账户文本,核心群公开持仓情况文本,核心群互相监督。核心群多签群主做好人员增减记录,定期更新持仓情况文本。核心群成员如持仓代理跌出前100,一天内未补回,踢出核心群。

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中文 (Chinese) / Re: cn-vote积分公告
« on: September 04, 2019, 09:01:10 am »
I always supported the initiative of cn-vote thinking its a great initiative.

But since Bitprofessor left it seems cn-vote is changing radicly in a bad direction.

Vote buying is nothing i support.
Asking Witnesses for profit share to receive your vote is shady.
And using reserve funds to pay for votes is also shady.

Am not supporting this direction cn-vote is moving.

I'm sorry for the misunderstanding caused by the language barrier.
Here are some explanations for you on behalf of cn-vote Union
1:Cn-vote isn't changing radicly in a bad direction.On the contrary, it is moving towards professionalism,
        democracy and unity.We are a spontaneous organization.
  The Bitprofessor didn't really leave. He just became a member of the committee. Because of the rules of the
  cn-vote union, he had to quit the cn-vote union.The Bitprofessor has devoted a lot of effort to the cn-
  vote union and has been paying close attention to the cn-vote union's affairs.
2:We don't want to use reserve funds to pay for votes,Our idea has always been to protect reserve funds.
   And what we have done is obvious to all.That's why you've been supporting us.


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