Stealth Transfers Worker Proposal

[jakub]

Let's have a road-map available on our website (instead of this funny looking thing) and put building this stealth feature in a queue.
Those who want it won't mind waiting a bit if they can clearly see it on the road-map.

I agree with @lil_jay890 that we should not start building new features (however important they are) until we complete those already in the pipeline.
Otherwise it just looks chaotic.

How about completing this little road-map first?
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,19735.msg253383.html#msg253383

Plus this crucial & long awaited thing: fix & standardize the API for trading bots.

And please @bytemaster replace the outdated road-map on the website.
We are shooting ourselves in the foot with this.
Is an investor supposed to follow this forum closely to find out about our short- and mid-term plans? Business people don't' have time for this.

[tonyk]

How do you feel about the bug that caused our "marketing blitzers" to lose almost all of their referral fees??  Maybe they would unleash a blitz and let the "wizards" code if they actually had a functioning referral system from said "wizards".

You can't keep finishing things 80% of the way.  This pie in the sky stuff needs to be put on hold until the exchange and referral system works.  It needs to be put on hold until an actual usable platform is available.  You could have all the bells and whistles in the world, but it wouldn't mean a thing if the underlying exchange sucks.

What is 80% of cutting edge?  That's like the sharpness of a baseball bat...

I was not aware there was an issue with the referral system. Link?

The debate is that Western referrers are building business models around the new BTS transfer fee of circa $0.15 - $0.2. In their professional opinion it's unlikely the referral programme will be effective at a much lower amount.

However some (like myself) believe $0.2 is too high for a user to user transfer fee compared against crypto & centralized competitors.
It's particularly a problem in our largest market China,  also disrupts some existing business models that need a more competitive fee and new ones like the tipping bot.

I think this is the latest thread covering the subject. The committee put forward an attempted compromise but which wasn't much of an improvement for either side. https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20073.0.html

I know why you are stubborn in your opinions. The same reason I am  ....way too often they are correct. But please make an effort and see that the tipbot does not need lower fees. The opposite - the somewhat high fees make him a major (only for now) player in the micro payments in the BTS ecosystem.

[CoinHoarder]

The debate is that Western referrers are building business models around the new BTS transfer fee of circa $0.15 - $0.2. In their professional opinion it's unlikely the referral programme will be effective at a much lower amount.

However some (like myself) believe $0.2 is too high for a user to user transfer fee compared against crypto & centralized competitors.
It's particularly a problem in our largest market China,  also disrupts some existing business models that need a more competitive fee and new ones like the tipping bot.

I think this is the latest thread covering the subject. The committee put forward an attempted compromise but which wasn't much of an improvement for either side. https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20073.0.html

Thanks for filling me in. I should probably read the forums more often.

That is certainly an issue, but it seems to me that some sort of compromise could be struck to keep both sides happy.

[GaltReport]

How do you feel about the bug that caused our "marketing blitzers" to lose almost all of their referral fees??  Maybe they would unleash a blitz and let the "wizards" code if they actually had a functioning referral system from said "wizards".

You can't keep finishing things 80% of the way.  This pie in the sky stuff needs to be put on hold until the exchange and referral system works.  It needs to be put on hold until an actual usable platform is available.  You could have all the bells and whistles in the world, but it wouldn't mean a thing if the underlying exchange sucks.

What is 80% of cutting edge?  That's like the sharpness of a baseball bat...

I was not aware there was an issue with the referral system. Link?

As far as the market.. I've made several trades with no issues, and they are working on the GUI already. It has been updated at least once and the new market view is a step in the right direction.

Let Bytemaster do his thing. The second he leaves the project Bitshares is screwed (that is until the community grows to a certain size.) We should keep him happy and support proposals he thinks are important, as he is usually right and has steered us in the right direction thus far.

I agree with this and think that ANONYMITY is important.  I have "heard" that Dash is now accepted on some of the Darknet sites.  I'm sure that has helped them.  Not that Darknet sites are our target per se...but won't hurt.

[Empirical1.2]

How do you feel about the bug that caused our "marketing blitzers" to lose almost all of their referral fees??  Maybe they would unleash a blitz and let the "wizards" code if they actually had a functioning referral system from said "wizards".

You can't keep finishing things 80% of the way.  This pie in the sky stuff needs to be put on hold until the exchange and referral system works.  It needs to be put on hold until an actual usable platform is available.  You could have all the bells and whistles in the world, but it wouldn't mean a thing if the underlying exchange sucks.

What is 80% of cutting edge?  That's like the sharpness of a baseball bat...

I was not aware there was an issue with the referral system. Link?

The debate is that Western referrers are building business models around the new BTS transfer fee of circa $0.15 - $0.2. In their professional opinion it's unlikely the referral programme will be effective at a much lower amount.

However some (like myself) believe $0.2 is too high for a user to user transfer fee compared against crypto & centralized competitors.
It's particularly a problem in our largest market China,  also disrupts some existing business models that need a more competitive fee and new ones like the tipping bot.

I think this is the latest thread covering the subject. The committee put forward an attempted compromise but which wasn't much of an improvement for either side. https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20073.0.html

[CoinHoarder]

How do you feel about the bug that caused our "marketing blitzers" to lose almost all of their referral fees??  Maybe they would unleash a blitz and let the "wizards" code if they actually had a functioning referral system from said "wizards".

You can't keep finishing things 80% of the way.  This pie in the sky stuff needs to be put on hold until the exchange and referral system works.  It needs to be put on hold until an actual usable platform is available.  You could have all the bells and whistles in the world, but it wouldn't mean a thing if the underlying exchange sucks.

What is 80% of cutting edge?  That's like the sharpness of a baseball bat...

I was not aware there was an issue with the referral system. Link?

As far as the market.. I've made several trades with no issues, and they are working on the GUI already. It has been updated at least once and the new market view is a step in the right direction.

Let Bytemaster do his thing. The second he leaves the project Bitshares is screwed (that is until the community grows to a certain size.) We should keep him happy and support proposals he thinks are important, as he is usually right and has steered us in the right direction thus far.

[bytemaster]

https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene/issues/452

This worker proposal is under development but may be the single most important worker proposal in terms of near-term impact.

My "gut" tells me that crypto-diehards are looking for an easy to use ANONYMOUS currency and those of us that are freedom loving actually want and need this.  Our current lack of privacy is a turnoff to many in the crypto and banking world.

If we have the best of breed privacy then it will put us well ahead of the competition.  Hopefully helping pull us up to Dash.

This work is heavy on UI development and advanced Javascript so has a lot of unknowns.

I will pledge $1500 out of my own pocket towards this important upgrade to our system. If there are just 29 other community members who will do the same then it can proceed.

This is good to know and sets an example of leading and not waiting for mass approval for change.  I will note it in the ticket.

[TravelsAsia]

You can't keep finishing things 80% of the way.  This pie in the sky stuff needs to be put on hold until the exchange and referral system works.  It needs to be put on hold until an actual usable platform is available.  You could have all the bells and whistles in the world, but it wouldn't mean a thing if the underlying exchange sucks.

What is 80% of cutting edge?  That's like the sharpness of a baseball bat...

 

Let's continue the focus on bringing the exchange where it needs to be.

[liondani]

Asking for money for futures we had is so surrealistic...  (even if we only had the illusion we had it)...

[Tuck Fheman]

#btstip "Tuck Fheman" 100 OPENSESAME

ty!

[btstip]

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[twitter]

#btstip "Tuck Fheman" 100 OPENSESAME

I will pledge $1500 out of my own pocket towards this important upgrade to our system. If there are just 29 other community members who will do the same then it can proceed.

#btstip "onceuponatime" 1 FISTBUMP

[Tuck Fheman]

ugly bitch

and there's my next UIA =)

[btstip]

Hey Tuck Fheman, here are the results of your tips...

• onceuponatime: has been credited 1 FISTBUMP

Curious about BtsTip? Visit us at http://btstip.io and start tipping BTS on https://bitsharestalk.org/ today!

Source: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20104.msg258891/topicseen.html#msg258891

Created by hybridd

[Tuck Fheman]

I will pledge $1500 out of my own pocket towards this important upgrade to our system. If there are just 29 other community members who will do the same then it can proceed.

#btstip "onceuponatime" 1 FISTBUMP