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Re: how about to raise block reward?
« Reply #60 on: February 26, 2017, 02:22:19 pm »
I am sure now the service will be improved...lol..If nothing changes to the service provided and feeds are wrong again I hope that you guys consider to go back to the 1.5bts and fire some bad witnesses..

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Line'm up, I'm happy to do the firing.
Where there's a slacker, I can always find 10 others hungry to prove themselves.

No problem with getting rid of deadbeat / low performers, but let's see contender's ability BEFORE they are voted them in.

In other words, don't be too quick to make changes. I'm at Anarchapulco atm, but I will be upgrading all of my nodes when I return. Keeping an eye on them from here.
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Re: how about to raise block reward?
« Reply #61 on: February 26, 2017, 04:23:26 pm »
I doubt there are more person who want to join.
I'm very surprised  even business team such as  openledger or blockpay don't interested in these things.
no vote proxy, no community, no witness.
How about chainsquad.com?
we have
* a proxy (me)
* a committee member (me)
* a worker (multisig)
* a bitshares webpage
* a faucet
* plenty of code written for the public
* still no witness .. for a single reason: more conflicting interests.
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Re: how about to raise block reward?
« Reply #62 on: February 26, 2017, 04:24:47 pm »
increase  pay more? are you kidding me?
tell me how much pay will delegate.btsnow give the feed price?
and I want to ask xeroc why you vote for this witness but not witness.yao, xn-delegate?

Code: [Select]
Recent activity (export to .csv)
OPERATION INFO
TRANSFER
delegate.btsnow sent 35,999 BTS to btsnow
last year - 42.10936 BTS
CREATE WITNESS
delegate.btsnow was upgraded to become a witness
last year - 5,000 BTS
CLAIM BALANCE
delegate.btsnow claimed a balance of 1.52398 BTS
last year - 0 BTS
CLAIM BALANCE
delegate.btsnow claimed a balance of 41,039.91616 BTS
last year - 0 BTS
I probably just missed him .. have a link where i can find more about him?
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Re: how about to raise block reward?
« Reply #63 on: February 27, 2017, 03:40:22 am »
increase  pay more? are you kidding me?
tell me how much pay will delegate.btsnow give the feed price?
and I want to ask xeroc why you vote for this witness but not witness.yao, xn-delegate?

Code: [Select]
Recent activity (export to .csv)
OPERATION INFO
TRANSFER
delegate.btsnow sent 35,999 BTS to btsnow
last year - 42.10936 BTS
CREATE WITNESS
delegate.btsnow was upgraded to become a witness
last year - 5,000 BTS
CLAIM BALANCE
delegate.btsnow claimed a balance of 1.52398 BTS
last year - 0 BTS
CLAIM BALANCE
delegate.btsnow claimed a balance of 41,039.91616 BTS
last year - 0 BTS
I probably just missed him .. have a link where i can find more about him?
the question is who is delegate.btsnow and why do you support him even he  never publish one price feed?
these days you have remove some vote, add some vote, keep some vote, and reject some new witness, what's your guideline?
for example this guy:
Agreed. Price feeds are what makes settlements and margin calls work as intended.
I will take down my votes from lazy witnesses when i am back at the office next year.
I will alao work on a tool that makes it easier for witbesses to provide manual feeds ... but for now, i am on vacation :)

Witness.yao on standby!
I need your vote, thx.

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Re: how about to raise block reward?
« Reply #64 on: February 27, 2017, 03:44:55 am »
you do these for payment,
we need more person do something for business so we can be charged with your payment.

I doubt there are more person who want to join.
I'm very surprised  even business team such as  openledger or blockpay don't interested in these things.
no vote proxy, no community, no witness.
How about chainsquad.com?
we have
* a proxy (me)
* a committee member (me)
* a worker (multisig)
* a bitshares webpage
* a faucet
* plenty of code written for the public
* still no witness .. for a single reason: more conflicting interests.

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Re: how about to raise block reward?
« Reply #65 on: February 27, 2017, 08:17:59 am »
the question is who is delegate.btsnow and why do you support him even he  never publish one price feed?
Missed that .. not publishing feeds is a no go .. thanks for letting me know
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Re: how about to raise block reward?
« Reply #66 on: February 28, 2017, 09:53:02 am »
the question is who is delegate.btsnow and why do you support him even he  never publish one price feed?
Missed that .. not publishing feeds is a no go .. thanks for letting me know
but you vote for roadscape and delegate-clayop, no price feed from them too.
you vote for datesecuritynode who always publish a price more lower than others, others's feed is 0.0261 CNY/BTS, his is 0.024CNY/BTS now
it's really a question: what's the guideline??
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喂价 – BITCNY/BTS   汇率 – BITCNY/BTS   维持保证金比例   强制平仓比例上限   发布人   发布时间
0.02410173   0.02537054   175%   110%   datasecuritynode   1分钟前
0.0261194   0.02749411   175%   110%   rnglab   15分钟前
0.02638632   0.02777535   175%   110%   in.abit   17分钟前
0.02633984   0.02772748   175%   110%   xman   20分钟前
0.02633984   0.02772748   175%   110%   abc123   22分钟前
0.0264   0.02778947   175%   110%   bhuz   24分钟前
0.02633984   0.02772748   175%   110%   fox   26分钟前
0.026085   0.02745789   175%   110%   wackou   28分钟前
0.026   0.02736842   175%   110%   delegate.ihashfury   29分钟前
0.0260845   0.02745737   175%   110%   verbaltech2   48分钟前
0.02611154   0.02637266   175%   110%   witness.yao   2小时前
0.02610618   0.02636724   175%   110%   delegate.baozi   2小时前
0.02611425   0.02637539   175%   110%   jerryliu   2小时前
0.026058   0.02631858   175%   110%   delegate.freedom   2小时前
0.025957   0.02621657   175%   110%   xn-delegate   6小时前
0.0262398   0.0265022   175%   110%   elmato   7小时前
0.02620277   0.0264648   175%   110%   xeldal   8小时前
0.02620613   0.0264682   175%   110%   witness.still   8小时前
0.02624258   0.026505   175%   110%   harvey-xts   22小时前
0.0265   0.02789474   175%   110%   spartako   22小时前
« Last Edit: February 28, 2017, 09:56:19 am by alt »

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Re: how about to raise block reward?
« Reply #67 on: February 28, 2017, 11:43:40 am »
the question is who is delegate.btsnow and why do you support him even he  never publish one price feed?
Missed that .. not publishing feeds is a no go .. thanks for letting me know
but you vote for roadscape and delegate-clayop, no price feed from them too.
you vote for datesecuritynode who always publish a price more lower than others, others's feed is 0.0261 CNY/BTS, his is 0.024CNY/BTS now
it's really a question: what's the guideline??
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喂价 – BITCNY/BTS   汇率 – BITCNY/BTS   维持保证金比例   强制平仓比例上限   发布人   发布时间
0.02410173   0.02537054   175%   110%   datasecuritynode   1分钟前
0.0261194   0.02749411   175%   110%   rnglab   15分钟前
0.02638632   0.02777535   175%   110%   in.abit   17分钟前
0.02633984   0.02772748   175%   110%   xman   20分钟前
0.02633984   0.02772748   175%   110%   abc123   22分钟前
0.0264   0.02778947   175%   110%   bhuz   24分钟前
0.02633984   0.02772748   175%   110%   fox   26分钟前
0.026085   0.02745789   175%   110%   wackou   28分钟前
0.026   0.02736842   175%   110%   delegate.ihashfury   29分钟前
0.0260845   0.02745737   175%   110%   verbaltech2   48分钟前
0.02611154   0.02637266   175%   110%   witness.yao   2小时前
0.02610618   0.02636724   175%   110%   delegate.baozi   2小时前
0.02611425   0.02637539   175%   110%   jerryliu   2小时前
0.026058   0.02631858   175%   110%   delegate.freedom   2小时前
0.025957   0.02621657   175%   110%   xn-delegate   6小时前
0.0262398   0.0265022   175%   110%   elmato   7小时前
0.02620277   0.0264648   175%   110%   xeldal   8小时前
0.02620613   0.0264682   175%   110%   witness.still   8小时前
0.02624258   0.026505   175%   110%   harvey-xts   22小时前
0.0265   0.02789474   175%   110%   spartako   22小时前


legitimate questions, but you know what's even more interesting?

how many active witnesses are run by committee members and who of them lobbied for witness pay increase?

this is important, because if nothing happens in terms of quality, there will be responsibilities.

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Re: how about to raise block reward?
« Reply #68 on: February 28, 2017, 09:23:05 pm »
currently price
polo: 294 sat/BTS   1196 USDT/BTC
btc38: 0.0248 CNY/BTS
look at the feed price, from 0.0228 to 0.0263
I suggest you fire these witness unless they give the reason and tell us how they will  fix it:
delegate.clayop, datasecuritynode, fox, elmato, witness.still

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喂价 – BITCNY/BTS   汇率 – BITCNY/BTS   维持保证金比例   强制平仓比例上限   发布人   发布时间
0.02474438   0.02604675   175%   110%   xman   6分钟前
0.02474406   0.02604662   175%   110%   abc123   8分钟前
0.0228698   0.02407373   175%   110%   datasecuritynode   10分钟前
0.025023   0.02634   175%   110%   verbaltech2   10分钟前
0.02457212   0.02586595   175%   110%   delegate.ihashfury   22分钟前
0.025023   0.02634   175%   110%   wackou   52分钟前
0.024442   0.02468642   175%   110%   xn-delegate   2小时前
0.0250837   0.02640405   175%   110%   in.abit   2小时前
0.02457916   0.02482495   175%   110%   harvey-xts   2小时前
0.0251   0.02642105   175%   110%   bhuz   2小时前
0.02511595   0.02643786   175%   110%   rnglab   2小时前
0.024341   0.02458441   175%   110%   xeldal   2小时前
0.02460977   0.02485587   175%   110%   delegate.baozi   3小时前
0.02464999   0.02489649   175%   110%   jerryliu   3小时前
0.02465878   0.02490537   175%   110%   witness.yao   3小时前
0.024   0.0252738   175%   110%   roadscape   4小时前
0.024745   0.02499245   175%   110%   delegate.freedom   5小时前
0.02634532   0.02773213   175%   110%   fox   7小时前
0.0262398   0.0265022   175%   110%   elmato   19小时前
0.02620613   0.0264682   175%   110%   witness.still   20小时前
« Last Edit: February 28, 2017, 09:29:51 pm by alt »

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Re: how about to raise block reward?
« Reply #69 on: March 01, 2017, 01:49:02 am »
我能提供稳定的喂价,希望得到xeroc的支持,sorry my english...
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Re: how about to raise block reward?
« Reply #70 on: March 01, 2017, 01:58:33 am »
witness.still is updating.
sorry for the delay, work overnight...
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Re: how about to raise block reward?
« Reply #71 on: March 01, 2017, 05:31:59 am »
BTS seed node : 128.199.143.47:2015
BTS API node : ws://128.199.143.47:2016 
BTS witness : harvey-xts

thanks for your votes~
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Re: how about to raise block reward?
« Reply #72 on: March 01, 2017, 11:13:10 pm »
seems somebody is special than others, they can get payment without doing the job.
the problem is not the reward, it's responsibility. shame on you

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Re: how about to raise block reward?
« Reply #73 on: March 02, 2017, 02:37:10 am »
currently price
polo: 294 sat/BTS   1196 USDT/BTC
btc38: 0.0248 CNY/BTS
look at the feed price, from 0.0228 to 0.0263
I suggest you fire these witness unless they give the reason and tell us how they will  fix it:
delegate.clayop, datasecuritynode, fox, elmato, witness.still

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喂价 – BITCNY/BTS   汇率 – BITCNY/BTS   维持保证金比例   强制平仓比例上限   发布人   发布时间
0.02474438   0.02604675   175%   110%   xman   6分钟前
0.02474406   0.02604662   175%   110%   abc123   8分钟前
0.0228698   0.02407373   175%   110%   datasecuritynode   10分钟前
0.025023   0.02634   175%   110%   verbaltech2   10分钟前
0.02457212   0.02586595   175%   110%   delegate.ihashfury   22分钟前
0.025023   0.02634   175%   110%   wackou   52分钟前
0.024442   0.02468642   175%   110%   xn-delegate   2小时前
0.0250837   0.02640405   175%   110%   in.abit   2小时前
0.02457916   0.02482495   175%   110%   harvey-xts   2小时前
0.0251   0.02642105   175%   110%   bhuz   2小时前
0.02511595   0.02643786   175%   110%   rnglab   2小时前
0.024341   0.02458441   175%   110%   xeldal   2小时前
0.02460977   0.02485587   175%   110%   delegate.baozi   3小时前
0.02464999   0.02489649   175%   110%   jerryliu   3小时前
0.02465878   0.02490537   175%   110%   witness.yao   3小时前
0.024   0.0252738   175%   110%   roadscape   4小时前
0.024745   0.02499245   175%   110%   delegate.freedom   5小时前
0.02634532   0.02773213   175%   110%   fox   7小时前
0.0262398   0.0265022   175%   110%   elmato   19小时前
0.02620613   0.0264682   175%   110%   witness.still   20小时前

It seems operating with more diverse sources for CNY pricing (ie. more decentralized) doesn't seem to be acceptable if it doesn't meet the approval of what a few people 'think' the price should be.

Original sources:

                    "sources" : ["btc38",
                                 "yunbi",
                                 "huobi", - temp disabled
                                 "btcchina", - temp disabled
                                 "okcoin", - temp disabled
                                 "poloniex",
                                 "bittrex",
                                 "btcavg",
                                 "yahoo",
                                 ]

In order to get a similar higher price to others I had to disable 3 more of these sources.. only leaving 3 to determine the CNY price.

Shame on me for taking a wider price feed average.. indeed.

The real tragedy in all this has actually been that the call was not about getting more sources.. it was about getting a higher price that someone wanted... shame.. indeed.
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Re: how about to raise block reward?
« Reply #74 on: March 02, 2017, 02:55:39 am »
the feed price is used for margin call and settle, it's about money for the traders.
you can publish any price you think reasonable, and everybody have a judgement if it's reasonable
you really should not follow my suggest without your thought. if you follow me without your thought, you are untrusted  to be a witness.
and anybody else should vote for you if they think your price is acceptable of course.
but the problem is anybody must choose one between 0.024 and 0.026, not both. or the MPA have no meaning.