Author Topic: everybody please remove junk vote for witness, especially bitcrab, cn-vote, stil  (Read 8929 times)

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firstly, it's not good to increase witness from this way.
secondly, it's a  danger action to vote like this, when you or BEOS get more vote power, BEOS could take over the chain by add many self account as active witness.
lastly, you have a misunderstanding about the vote mechanism, when there are only 21 active witness, you can't add even 1 witness when you have already vote for more than 21 witness.
on the other hand, you can't reduce even 1 witness when you have already vote for less than 21 witness.

so vote for the one you support, not a random junk account please.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2019, 03:14:55 am by alt »

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见证人应当设置门槛的,起码要锁仓300万bts才行。

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secondly, it's a  danger action to vote like this, when you or BEOS get more vote power, BEOS could take over the chain by add many self account as active witness.
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lastly, you have a misunderstanding about the vote mechanism, when there are only 21 active witness, you can't add even 1 witness when you have already vote for more than 21 witness.
on the other hand, you can't reduce even 1 witness when you have already vote for less than 21 witness.
I didn't understand.
The 21 is the weighted median of all votes, which means it is a result but not a condition or a reason, so it doesn't make sense to say "when there are only 21 then (to change the value somehow)".
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I mean when 21 is the median currently, and you vote for a number beyond 21, there are no extra use when you vote far more than 21,
it's totally the same contribution whenever you vote for  21 witness or 50 witness.
only when somebody change vote from a number below 21 to a number beyond 21, or from a number beyond 21 to below 21 can change the current active witness numbers.

I didn't understand.
The 21 is the weighted median of all votes, which means it is a result but not a condition or a reason, so it doesn't make sense to say "when there are only 21 then (to change the value somehow)".

for now, there are totally about 900M BTS participate the witness vote, BEOS have 300M vote power
there are about 21 witness got more than 300M BTS support without BEOS's help.
this means when there are extra about 150M BTS(this is very close already) vote for a number more than 43, BEOS got the chance to vote for another 22 self account as the active witness, and can take over the main chain.

and if we consider those witness who get 400M BTS support without BEOS's help as a safe line, there are only 16 witness beyond this line,
this means we should keep the active witness number below 31 to ensure BEOS can't get the chance easily to set 17 self accounts as active witness.

secondly, it's a  danger action to vote like this, when you or BEOS get more vote power, BEOS could take over the chain by add many self account as active witness.
True.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2019, 04:30:52 am by alt »

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I mean when 21 is the median currently, and you vote for a number beyond 21, there are no extra use when you vote far more than 21,
it's totally the same contribution whenever you vote for  21 witness or 50 witness.
only when somebody change vote from a number below 21 to a number beyond 21, or from a number beyond 21 to below 21 can change the current active witness numbers.

I didn't understand.
The 21 is the weighted median of all votes, which means it is a result but not a condition or a reason, so it doesn't make sense to say "when there are only 21 then (to change the value somehow)".
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for now, there are totally about 900M BTS participate the witness vote, BEOS have 300M vote power
there are about 21 witness got more than 300M BTS support without BEOS's help.
this means when there are extra about 150M BTS(this is very close already) vote for a number more than 43, BEOS got the chance to vote for another 22 self account as the active witness, and can take over the main chain.

and if we consider those witness who get 400M BTS support without BEOS's help as a safe line, there are only 16 witness beyond this line,
this means we should keep the active witness number below 31 to ensure BEOS can't get the chance easily to set 17 self accounts as active witness.

secondly, it's a  danger action to vote like this, when you or BEOS get more vote power, BEOS could take over the chain by add many self account as active witness.
True.
True.
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firstly, it's not good to increase witness from this way.
secondly, it's a  danger action to vote like this, when you or BEOS get more vote power, BEOS could take over the chain by add many self account as active witness.
lastly, you have a misunderstanding about the vote mechanism, when there are only 21 active witness, you can't add even 1 witness when you have already vote for more than 21 witness.
on the other hand, you can't reduce even 1 witness when you have already vote for less than 21 witness.

so vote for the one you support, not a random junk account please.


Thank you for reminding me.

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So,we need set a threshold for the witness,the witness need lock 5M bts in the system.
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So,we need set a threshold for the witness,the witness need lock 500M bts in the system.

wtf?

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So,we need set a threshold for the witness,the witness need lock 500M bts in the system.

wtf?
5M ;)

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So,we need set a threshold for the witness,the witness need lock 5M bts in the system.
Agree to lock

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agree to lock 5m bts in order to be an active  witness

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Agree to lock 100M

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Agree to lock 100M

So your solution to avoid the threat of centralisation caused by one entity controlling 300m stake is to make it so only THAT entity can run a witness and thus totally ensure it happens.

Good job. Much logic.