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[Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« on: May 25, 2020, 01:59:06 pm »
BAIP6(https://github.com/bitshares/baips/blob/master/baip-0006.md) is a new drafted proposal that consist of the updated Market Making contest(Ordering Mining) rule and some other parts, the purpose is to cultivate the market depth and the trading activeness in BTS-DEX through a task distribution mechanism, and to increase the system income to buy back BTS to create value for BTS stake holders.

Now 2 poll workers have been created:

1.14.260 Poll-BAIP6-Implement BTS-DEX economic model
1.14.261 Poll-BAIP6-Do Not Implement BTS-DEX economic model

According to BAIP procedure definition, the BAIP6 will be considered approved while below 3 criteria are met:

1.worker 1.14.260 get more voting power than 1.14.261 worker.
2.worker 1.14.260 get more voting power than BAIP-Threshold Worker 1.14.236.
3.Both No.1 & 2 above last for three consecutive days.

Kindly Reminder:

BTS-DEX try to make sure,but do not guarantee that the listed gateways always provide liable service and is not legally responsible for that, users need to judge the service liability of the gateways by him/herself.

As RuDEX and XBTSX claimed not to participate the subsequent Ordering Mining, at the beginning only GDEX is included in the gateway list,  however any qualified gateway is welcomed to join after the Ordering Mining begin if the gateway accept the mentioned conditions in the BAIP.

Please vote according to your opinion.


BAIP6(https://github.com/bitshares/baips/blob/master/baip-0006.md)
是新起草的包含交易大赛(挂单挖矿)和销毁的部分的提案,目的在于用去中心化分发任务的方式来培育市场深度,刺激交易活跃度,提升系统收入,为BTS持有者创造价值。

现在有两个投票提案被创建:
1.14.260 Poll-BAIP6-Implement BTS-DEX economic model   ##赞同实施BAIP6
1.14.261 Poll-BAIP6-Do Not Implement BTS-DEX economic model  ## 反对实施BAIP6

根据BAIP流程,当以下三个条件满足时,BAIP6将被视为被社区批准实施:
1.提案 1.14.260 获得投票高于提案 1.14.261.
2.提案 1.14.260 获得投票高于提案 BAIP门槛提案 1.14.236.
3.以上两种状态持续三天以上。

友情提醒:

BTS-DEX尽力确认,但无法保证挂单挖矿涉及到的网关可持续提供可靠服务,也不对此负法律责任,请用户自行判断所涉网关的服务可靠性。

因为RuDEX and XBTSX宣布不参加接下来的挂单挖矿,开始的时候挂单挖矿将只包括GDEX一家网关,但欢迎任何服务达标且接受BAIP6中描述的参加条件的网关在后续时间选择加入。

请投出您神圣的一票!
« Last Edit: May 25, 2020, 03:27:16 pm by bitcrab »

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2020, 05:45:39 pm »
So basically it's just the money for the gdex MM/fees from a reserve pool. Rejected

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2020, 06:30:34 pm »
Where the SPRING fund of 50 million BTS ?
Where >30 million BTS accumulated earlier with a trade fee of bitCNY and bitUSD ?
They disappeared under the brilliant guidance of our wise leadership...

Left crumbs.
The whole market ate margin calls...
CNY and USD prices froze .. why? Because there were manipulations as we are told. But now there is no manipulation - the prices are relevant. And why are prices frozen for quotes?

Because it was a pretext only to introduce new rules.

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2020, 07:04:29 pm »
BAIP6(https://github.com/bitshares/baips/blob/master/baip-0006.md) is a new drafted proposal that consist of the updated Market Making contest(Ordering Mining) rule and some other parts, the purpose is to cultivate the market depth and the trading activeness in BTS-DEX through a task distribution mechanism, and to increase the system income to buy back BTS to create value for BTS stake holders.

Now 2 poll workers have been created:

1.14.260 Poll-BAIP6-Implement BTS-DEX economic model
1.14.261 Poll-BAIP6-Do Not Implement BTS-DEX economic model

According to BAIP procedure definition, the BAIP6 will be considered approved while below 3 criteria are met:

1.worker 1.14.260 get more voting power than 1.14.261 worker.
2.worker 1.14.260 get more voting power than BAIP-Threshold Worker 1.14.236.
3.Both No.1 & 2 above last for three consecutive days.

Kindly Reminder:

BTS-DEX try to make sure,but do not guarantee that the listed gateways always provide liable service and is not legally responsible for that, users need to judge the service liability of the gateways by him/herself.

As RuDEX and XBTSX claimed not to participate the subsequent Ordering Mining, at the beginning only GDEX is included in the gateway list,  however any qualified gateway is welcomed to join after the Ordering Mining begin if the gateway accept the mentioned conditions in the BAIP.

Please vote according to your opinion.

Placing additional burden on the actual value creators in the network, especially in this hard time, is irrational. This is another attempt in a series of failures at financial engineering and makes further -90% drop in the price of BTS likely. How much more money do you need to lose before you admit failure and reverse course? Rejected.

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2020, 09:54:32 pm »
Rejected.

If this economy model is so good, why GDEX didn't use it on GDEX? The GDP economy model of GDEX has been failure long long time ago, if this economy model was so good as bitcrab's description, why GDEX didn't spend money to do it in GDEX? it can't make GDEX become more better or greater?

MM spend too much but get very little. The recent MM last a long time, the organizer of MM and committee didn't give the detail data until now, how much did the MM spend totally? how many new users increase? how many daily users have in each trading pairs? how to evaluate these result?

And the fund of last MM didn't have a vote by bts holders, why did the committee spend thess money without the approval of bts holders, the committee should give a explanation.

The source of fund of bsip86 has legal risk, the committee didn't give a explanation to bts holders.

The last MM almost was controlled by the designer of MM,the committee almost didn't have the ability to control the MM.

This BSIP give the committee a very bid power of using fund, this is very dangerous, it will make the transfer of benifit become very easily,and it will be very easily out of control.

The committee always didn't follow the vote result of bts holders, there has a destruction proposal, the committee did not obey this proposal!

反对.

如果这个经济模型这么好,为什么GDEX不自己采用?GDEX的GDP似乎很早就失败了吧,试问,GDEX给GDP赋能了吗?!如果这个经济模型如描述的那么好,难道GDEX不应该自己先采用吗?它难道不能使GDEX变得更好?

交易大赛花费远远大于所得,上一次大赛的时间也不短,大赛组织者与理事会并没有给出具体数据,大赛总花费多少,新用户增量多少?日活人数多少?
而且上一次大赛资金的支出并没有经过bts.持有人投票,理事会需要对此做出说明,理事会依据什么规则花费了这笔资金?

大赛的资金来源BSIP86存有法律问题,理事会并没有对此跟bts持有人做出解释说明.

这个提案给了理事会非常大的资金权力,利益输送变得非常容易, 而且极易失控。

上一个交易大赛已经出现了,设计者控制大赛的情况,理事会几无控制权。

理事会经常不遵守bts持有人的投票结果,现在有一个销毁提案,理事会并没有按照提案内容严格执行。
« Last Edit: May 26, 2020, 03:22:09 am by binggo »

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2020, 01:40:39 am »
So basically it's just the money for the gdex MM/fees from a reserve pool. Rejected

it's designed for all qualified gateways.

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2020, 07:45:45 pm »
Reject.

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2020, 07:56:49 pm »
voted against

would be better to focus on getting real price feed back which would automaticly increase the trading on bitassets and non custodial trading.



Also

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gateway need to pay 20% of the market fee of the listed gateway assets pairs to committee assigned account, the reward to pairs with the gateway asset will stop if more than 1K BTS fee are not paid.
Are now voters going to decide how much gateways need to pay ?


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According to BAIP procedure definition, the BAIP6 will be considered approved while below 3 criteria are met:

1.worker 1.14.260 get more voting power than 1.14.261 worker.
2.worker 1.14.260 get more voting power than BAIP-Threshold Worker 1.14.236.
3.Both No.1 & 2 above last for three consecutive days.

This is also false.
The worker 1.14.200 already says what has to be done with income from fee's .
To get active you need to surpass that worker.
« Last Edit: May 26, 2020, 08:19:26 pm by Thul3 »

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2020, 06:26:25 am »
voted against

would be better to focus on getting real price feed back which would automaticly increase the trading on bitassets and non custodial trading.

These are 2 problems, and I still prefer to do adjustment on price feed when the price is stablized above the threshold. otherwise there will be repeated hurting and endless debate.

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gateway need to pay 20% of the market fee of the listed gateway assets pairs to committee assigned account, the reward to pairs with the gateway asset will stop if more than 1K BTS fee are not paid.
Are now voters going to decide how much gateways need to pay ?
approving the proposal means approving the parameters inside it, changes to key parameters need voting, there are descriptions inside the proposal.

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2020, 02:44:37 pm »
So basically it's just the money for the gdex MM/fees from a reserve pool. Rejected

it's designed for all qualified gateways.

it's designed to grab money from reserve pool as I see it

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2020, 08:28:29 pm »
So basically it's just the money for the gdex MM/fees from a reserve pool. Rejected

it's designed for all qualified gateways.

it's designed to grab money from reserve pool as I see it

You should vote for this BAIP 1.14.236 (BAIP-Threshold) to against BAIP6.

Anybody think the money belong to the community should vote for BAIP-Threshold.


And i think BAIP6 didn't belong to BAIP, it should be a BSIP, the fund didn't only come from bitasset.

and only one gateway participate in, no competitor, any committees vote for this involve transfer of benifits.

理事的屁股不要坐到不该坐的地方。

« Last Edit: May 29, 2020, 09:03:46 pm by binggo »

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2020, 04:28:49 am »
Mark at this moment:

1.14.260   Poll-BAIP6-Implement BTS-DEX economic model                  471,277,721
1.14.236   BAIP-Threshold                                                                  466,678,583
1.14.261   Poll-BAIP6-Do Not Implement BTS-DEX economic model     136,354,157

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2020, 11:42:07 am »
Mark at this moment:

1.14.236   BAIP-Threshold                                                                       483 518 895
1.14.260   Poll-BAIP6-Implement BTS-DEX economic model                  471,277,721
1.14.261   Poll-BAIP6-Do Not Implement BTS-DEX economic model     136,354,157

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2020, 11:45:16 am »
So basically it's just the money for the gdex MM/fees from a reserve pool. Rejected

it's designed for all qualified gateways.

it's designed to grab money from reserve pool as I see it

You should vote for this BAIP 1.14.236 (BAIP-Threshold) to against BAIP6.

Anybody think the money belong to the community should vote for BAIP-Threshold.


And i think BAIP6 didn't belong to BAIP, it should be a BSIP, the fund didn't only come from bitasset.

and only one gateway participate in, no competitor, any committees vote for this involve transfer of benifits.

理事的屁股不要坐到不该坐的地方。

abit use the bot to mute admins in bitshares chat so only way community see it if they come to this forum,
in chat, abit abuse his admin power to silence those who against his agenda
« Last Edit: May 30, 2020, 01:08:51 pm by blockchained »

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2020, 12:24:17 pm »
So basically it's just the money for the gdex MM/fees from a reserve pool. Rejected

it's designed for all qualified gateways.

it's designed to grab money from reserve pool as I see it

You should vote for this BAIP 1.14.236 (BAIP-Threshold) to against BAIP6.

Anybody think the money belong to the community should vote for BAIP-Threshold.


And i think BAIP6 didn't belong to BAIP, it should be a BSIP, the fund didn't only come from bitasset.

and only one gateway participate in, no competitor, any committees vote for this involve transfer of benifits.

理事的屁股不要坐到不该坐的地方。

alt use the bot to mute admins in bitshares chat so only way community see it if they come to this forum,
in chat, alt abuse his admin power to silence those who against his agenda


blockchained mistakenly wrote alt instead of abit.
But i fully agree.
This voting can't be seen serious when Abit muted on chat people who were against it.
There is no possibility for them to inform that community about the voting requesting to vote against it or even discuss about it.
Even Abit didn't informed there about that voting knowing there is no support for it.
The only one who is left being allowed to talk there is Abit.

So anyways personly i see this voting as non conform as people can't support their point of view on the community channels if its diffrent to Abits opinion as he knows a clear majority
is against it even BEOS but why inform them about that voting when it is not in his favour so he mutes everyone even Stan so there can't be any discussion anymore between people very often disagreeing to his opinion.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2020, 03:32:46 pm by Thul3 »

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2020, 01:11:53 pm »
blockchained mistakenly wrote alt instead of abit.
Yes, I was mistaken

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2020, 05:45:30 am »
Mark ATM:

1.14.260   Poll-BAIP6-Implement BTS-DEX economic model                483,504,455
1.14.236   BAIP-Threshold                                                              483,019,167
1.14.261   Poll-BAIP6-Do Not Implement BTS-DEX economic model     136,235,999

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2020, 04:36:10 pm »
Mark ATM:

1.14.260   Poll-BAIP6-Implement BTS-DEX economic model                483,504,455
1.14.236   BAIP-Threshold                                                              483,019,167
1.14.261   Poll-BAIP6-Do Not Implement BTS-DEX economic model     136,235,999

bitCNY, [01.06.20 10:17] in telegram
What is the purpose on a threshold on bitshares if you just lower the threshold when wanting to get something getting voted in.
It makes the threshold irrelevant and doubling the votes from proxies who want to get a BAIP voted in.


bitCNY, [01.06.20 10:17] in telegram
That voting system makes no sense as it doesn't have a real threshold it is basicly desinged in favour of big proxies


that's why we need to reconsider this system at least count negative vote when we look for threshold

for example

VOTE.YES - VOTE.NO = X
if X less than threshold baip/bsip didn't pas 

somehow even if we have a negative vote but we count only positive ones
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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2020, 09:08:50 pm »
Mark ATM:

1.14.236   BAIP-Threshold                                                                489,243,582
1.14.260   Poll-BAIP6-Implement BTS-DEX economic model                488,422,933

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2020, 10:40:34 am »
Mark ATM:

1.14.260   Poll-BAIP6-Implement BTS-DEX economic model               488,278,404
1.14.236   BAIP-Threshold                                                               488,269,458

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2020, 02:17:51 pm »
Mark ATM:


1.14.236   BAIP-Threshold                                                               488,436,685
1.14.260   Poll-BAIP6-Implement BTS-DEX economic model               488,273,693


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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2020, 01:07:15 pm »
Mark ATM:

1.14.260   Poll-BAIP6-Implement BTS-DEX economic model.               488,629,650   
1.14.236   BAIP-Threshold                                                                485,310,353
1.14.261   Poll-BAIP6-Do Not Implement BTS-DEX economic model.    140,189,259

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2020, 01:30:42 pm »
Mark ATM:

1.14.260   Poll-BAIP6-Implement BTS-DEX economic model.               488,629,650   
1.14.236   BAIP-Threshold                                                                485,310,353
1.14.261   Poll-BAIP6-Do Not Implement BTS-DEX economic model.    140,189,259

hongcaibao111

so, this is the your and cn-vote's little trick?

Why cn-vote didn't remove the vote from the BAIP-Threshold directly?

So rediculous mechanism of this BAIP-Threshold!

这就是你们的小伎俩?!

那cn-vote直接把票从BAIP-Threshold不更好吗?!

傻逼一样的BAIP-Threshold投票机制巨蟹你还在玩的很开心是吧?

何必这样既要当婊子又要立牌坊呢?像个爷们一样的做事情不好吗?!

早就料到你们会出这种下三滥的手段,果真不出所料,品行一致!


几个BTS的理事,做出这种投票Threshold机制,脸上害不害臊?理事还偷偷的玩这种伎俩,丢人不丢人? 

bts社区脏成这样,也算是开眼了!


« Last Edit: June 03, 2020, 02:08:41 pm by binggo »

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2020, 03:04:05 pm »
🦐bb什么?不是投票了吗?你不服,买币投票啊?把票干下去,巨蟹在群里拉了2天票,你在干嘛?投不上去你bb,投上去了,你还bb。

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2020, 03:22:28 pm »
🦐bb什么?不是投票了吗?你不服,买币投票啊?把票干下去,巨蟹在群里拉了2天票,你在干嘛?投不上去你bb,投上去了,你还bb。

不懂就少说话。

做事情别天天既想当婊子又想立牌坊。

这些钱花不花对我来说无所谓,但是我就是看不惯这种脏!
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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2020, 03:26:42 pm »
我还就真不懂,我就知道dpos是钱说了算,你觉得不公平,买币投下去,我叫你爸爸

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2020, 03:28:17 pm »
我还就真不懂,我就知道dpos是钱说了算,你觉得不公平,买币投下去,我叫你爸爸

所以说你不懂就少说话。

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2020, 03:32:38 pm »
有本事3天内买币投下去

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2020, 03:34:15 pm »
有本事3天内买币投下去

不懂别说话,没人当你哑巴!

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2020, 08:43:29 pm »
BAIP threshold can't be considered any significant with all the manipulations happening.There is no threshold at all.

CN-Vote not removing their vote for BAIP threshold directly as it would put the threshold on 200 million votes which would clearly show bitassets are a clear joke now in the hands of a single entity.

I just waited to see that happening to show how they destroyed any valid voting system and trust into bitassets
You are just destroying more and more confidence into bitassets.

@Abit you support it ?

You keeping destroying bitassets confidence this way ?
Funny you claim in telegram something else but support these kind of cheats.
You really belive the MM will bring bitshares more benefit than the damage you are creating with endless cheating to bitassets ?
Who is going to hold bitassets with such a BAIP threshold joke

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2020, 09:05:58 pm »
I suggest everyone to remove the vote from BAIP-Threshold.

Why not? They think they can control the BAIP-Threshold, ok., let they control it by themselves, they can do what they like from now.

I remove my vote from BAIP/BSIP Threshold from now.
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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #31 on: June 03, 2020, 10:24:50 pm »
套用几句话,证明你是个垃圾。
V2Ray 这几天频繁更新,是事出有因。
由开发者 p4gefau1t 在对 v2ray-core 源码的安全审计和分析后发现几处缺陷并提交了 issue 及 PoC,经过社区的不断讨论和开发,找到原因并及时修复。
一款好工具的诞生,需要开发者和社区的共同努力,而不是内讧和互相攻击。
希望大家能保持理解和支持,谢谢!

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #32 on: June 03, 2020, 10:53:07 pm »
套用几句话,证明你是个垃圾。
V2Ray 这几天频繁更新,是事出有因。
由开发者 p4gefau1t 在对 v2ray-core 源码的安全审计和分析后发现几处缺陷并提交了 issue 及 PoC,经过社区的不断讨论和开发,找到原因并及时修复。
一款好工具的诞生,需要开发者和社区的共同努力,而不是内讧和互相攻击。
希望大家能保持理解和支持,谢谢!

这种话套在你还有他们身上正合适!

讨论?不存在的!你和他们需要讨论么,一个天大的笑话。

看来你想讨论一下,那么先来回答以下几个问题,给某些理事擦擦屁股!

1.如果这个经济模型这么好,为什么GDEX不自己采用?

1. The fund of last MM comes from committee account, so who gave the right to committee to spend it?where is the BSIP for vote? if the bts holders agreed the last MM?

上一次的MM大赛资金来自理事会账户,那么谁给了理事会的权力去花费的这些资金?有经过bts持有人的投票同意吗?

2. How much cost?

总共花费了多少

3. How much income?

总共收入有多少?

4. How many new users?

新增了多少有效用户?

5. How many daily users?

每个交易对日活人数多少?

Where is the fund of the last OMO?what did the committee want to deal with it?

上一次OMO的残余资金去哪了?理事会想怎么处理?

有一个激活时间都大半年多的销毁提案,理事会执行的程度如何?

上一次巨蟹提的bitcny手续费更改提案,并没有BAIP提案投票,理事会直接就执行了,那么谁来解释一下,这个BAIP规则还双标吗?既然违反了,难道不追责吗?

BAIP/BSIP-Threshold中的投票陷阱,开发者与理事会不清楚吗?开发者与理事会的首要原则是什么?!

智能资产的喂价被理事会从见证人身上剥离了出来,完全变成了中心化控制,那么后续怎么进行?这么一个天大的事情抵押人与理事会都感觉似乎事不关己是吧?

这些问题回答完了再讨论!

你不是要证明某些理事不是垃圾吗?或者你想来替他们回答!

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #33 on: June 03, 2020, 11:30:12 pm »
1、这个经济模型也只是一次社会实验,GDEX是BTS上的网关,巨蟹不想吃独食,想分享给大家一起赚钱。
2、MM没花多少钱,经过投票的,理事会账户的资金使用权本来就属于BTSer选出的理事会,权限表里写的很清楚,别说花了,就是理事平分了,也没啥问题。
花费了多少,我记得abit当时算了,花的不多,基本持平的
3、收入只有智能货币的手续费,可能也就几百万BTS把。
4、这个都关系不能增加用户,增加的是流动性和吸引做市商,你没看到几个大的承兑商,拿着几十万,手动的,还有自学python的,有很长一段时间深度比火币好,巨蟹那边应该截图多次记录了。
5、每个币对日活很容易统计,大概也就几十个吧,这么那用的bts,日活几十个,相当于4、5线交易所,3线交易所日活大概300-500,2线大概2000-5000。
6、omo失败了,这个操作也是经过投票的,风险嘛当然是所有人买单,让巨蟹出钱吗?
还有,什么销毁也好,该手续费也好,都是多签账户操作的,提案任何人都可以发起,资产或者账户有权限的人可以投票,有没有发BAIP没注意到,但是并不是所有的事物都需要投票的。
什么鸡毛蒜皮的事情都要投票,那巨蟹睡觉,abit约炮也要投票吗?

看不惯就买币,把在位的傻逼都投下去。

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2020, 11:56:14 pm »
1、这个经济模型也只是一次社会实验,GDEX是BTS上的网关,巨蟹不想吃独食,想分享给大家一起赚钱。
2、MM没花多少钱,经过投票的,理事会账户的资金使用权本来就属于BTSer选出的理事会,权限表里写的很清楚,别说花了,就是理事平分了,也没啥问题。
花费了多少,我记得abit当时算了,花的不多,基本持平的
3、收入只有智能货币的手续费,可能也就几百万BTS把。
4、这个都关系不能增加用户,增加的是流动性和吸引做市商,你没看到几个大的承兑商,拿着几十万,手动的,还有自学python的,有很长一段时间深度比火币好,巨蟹那边应该截图多次记录了。
5、每个币对日活很容易统计,大概也就几十个吧,这么那用的bts,日活几十个,相当于4、5线交易所,3线交易所日活大概300-500,2线大概2000-5000。
6、omo失败了,这个操作也是经过投票的,风险嘛当然是所有人买单,让巨蟹出钱吗?
还有,什么销毁也好,该手续费也好,都是多签账户操作的,提案任何人都可以发起,资产或者账户有权限的人可以投票,有没有发BAIP没注意到,但是并不是所有的事物都需要投票的。
什么鸡毛蒜皮的事情都要投票,那巨蟹睡觉,abit约炮也要投票吗?

看不惯就买币,把在位的傻逼都投下去。

你可以一条一条清楚的回答。

1. GDEX很长时间以来没有任何活动,GDP也已然失败,既然这次经济模型这么好,为什么GDEX在年前不在GDEX上实行?没人关心他吃不吃独食,上次交易大赛吃的独食也不想管。

巨蟹的社区实验从17年以来多了去了,巨蟹自己年前立的flag自己不看吗?到时候屁股一拍一走GDEX一关,你们来继续他的社会实验?做实验不先拿自己做实验,先拿社区来做实验,你们...。恒河猴?小白鼠?


2. 上次的MM的投票通过的提案在哪里?

3. 理事账户是社区的托管账户,资金是托管资金,什么时候成了理事会可以随意处置的资产了? 哪一个权限表里有?

4. 到底多少,报个数,这是理事会与大赛组织者最基本的操作!

5. 不能新增用户,要一个交易大赛干什么?什么叫流动性?制造流动性与深度的目的是吸引与增加有效用户数,没有有效用户数的增加还要市商干什么?

智能资产自身的交易对有足够的流动性与深度,还不用花钱,为什么要在其它上面浪费资金?

越过喂价那段时间,整个大赛交易对流动性深度立马成渣,怎么解释?

一个人刷刷刷也能做出这种深度图,有何用?看币蛋的深度图更吸引人。

6.不要大概,这种数据是必须要给社区看的,花了社区的钱,不做出具体的数据给社区看,糊涂账吗?每个交易对具体平均有几个日活用户?eth/bts交易对日活人数有多少?

7.OMO失败了不假,那么残余资金呢?不处理一下销毁吗?留在手里有什么目的?没人蛋疼的去追他们责任,即使他们已经完全违反了提案范围。

8.社区投票通过的东西,理事会执行一半剩下一半不动了,怎么回事?理事会的首要原则是什么?

9. 巨蟹睡觉,abit约炮没人管,这不属于社区事务,但是属于社区事务的必须要投票,不然要投票系统与规则干什么?

10. 屁股上坐着一个喂价剥离的炸药包不去先处理,却要在上面开始烧烤了,这是干什么?

手里有半个bts也有质疑的权力,我提的这些问题不合理吗?大半年了都装聋作哑的不回答是怎么回事?
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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #35 on: June 04, 2020, 01:53:04 am »
just money talk

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2020, 07:29:13 pm »
As usual dirty tactics utilized to force through trash policies.

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #37 on: June 05, 2020, 02:35:53 am »
in these guys' eyes, everything which make them unhappy is dirty.

every voter has freedom to vote.
the voting power that voted BAIP-Threshold increased comparing to the beginning of this poll.
"then what? it's dirty as I do not like it."


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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #38 on: June 05, 2020, 03:20:56 am »
in these guys' eyes, everything which make them unhappy is dirty.

every voter has freedom to vote.
the voting power that voted BAIP-Threshold increased comparing to the beginning of this poll.
"then what? it's dirty as I do not like it."


Dirty is dirty, you can't make it clean.

When the committee design a cheating BAIP/BSIP threshold, not want to correct it,but love to play it,especially a group of committees,not dirty?so ridiculous.

Black is black, white is white!

Please thinking problems with your brain,not mouth.
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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #39 on: June 05, 2020, 03:54:50 am »
都是成年人,目的是赚钱。

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #40 on: June 05, 2020, 04:15:54 am »
都是成年人,目的是赚钱。

那就都直白一些,坦白一些,直接说割韭菜利益输送好了,何必整那么多高大上的理由与看似美妙的经济模型,是不是?

上一次交易大赛具体结果数据都不明不白的,理事会不吭气,网关不吭气,那就这样....咱们继续糊涂账

妙啊,妙啊,真是妙啊

BTS的日活基本都在锚定资产区,交易大赛几无卵用,我就看这些榆木们什么时候开窍(jiesuo)

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #41 on: June 05, 2020, 08:06:02 am »
都是成年人,目的是赚钱。

I see bitshares falling more and more in CMC so where do you make money ?
Or is taking funds from reserve pool making you money ?
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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #42 on: June 06, 2020, 02:27:22 pm »
Mark ATM:

1.14.260   Poll-BAIP6-Implement BTS-DEX economic model.               488,629,650   
1.14.236   BAIP-Threshold                                                                485,310,353
1.14.261   Poll-BAIP6-Do Not Implement BTS-DEX economic model.    140,189,259

Mark ATM:

1.14.260   Poll-BAIP6-Implement BTS-DEX economic model.               488,086,297   
1.14.236   BAIP-Threshold                                                                480,309,611
1.14.261   Poll-BAIP6-Do Not Implement BTS-DEX economic model.    140,573,705

The BAIP6 is approved, it will be implemented.

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #43 on: June 06, 2020, 04:08:41 pm »
BAIP6 is not approved


Your proposal is not valid for a BAIP voting


BAIP defenition voted in by consensus :

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BAIP stands for BitAssets Improvement Proposal but can also seen as an improvement consensus. BitAssets are smartcoins technically owned by the "committee-account" on the BitShares blockchain. A BAIP is a design document providing information to the BitShares community, or describing a new feature for BitAssets or change its parameters or price feed formula, logic and source. In short, this repository is for the community to discuss and organize votings for things about bitCNY, bitUSD


Your proposal is clearly not fitting into that defenition.
Your proposal is a normal worker not important how you name it.
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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #44 on: June 07, 2020, 12:19:02 am »
Your proposal is not valid for a BAIP voting

This and the destruction BSIP has already a higher voting power:
Be part of the change and vote for the bitshares-vision proxy!

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Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« Reply #45 on: June 14, 2020, 08:54:03 am »
would be better to focus on getting real price feed back which would automaticly increase the trading on bitassets and non custodial trading.

THIS ^^^