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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2014, 02:28:51 pm »
I know for Bitcoin at least Cryptsy automatically includes a fee in excess of the minimum (0.0002 instead of 0.0001), it's probably the same for PTS.

From what I've been reading here, there are at least a few exchanges that send out PTS with 0 fee... probably because 99% of the time that's fine, since blocks come relatively quickly and it takes a while to reach that max block size for free transactions (10k for non-priority, 27k for priority?  i keep getting stuff mixed up, so could be wrong).  It's just on the 27th and 28th stuff got bogged down

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2014, 07:46:51 pm »
It looks like my withdrawal did get confirmed into my wallet so that is good news.  No I did not see a way to add a transaction fee in Cryptsy...


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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2014, 07:18:39 pm »
Thanks.  Where/how are transaction fees added to any PTS transaction?
I had the same trouble with a withdraw from bter.com,  and after  almost 18 Hrs,  I get my transaction confirmed
Unfortunately there is no option at  bter exchange for adding the "transaction fee",  I don't know in Cryptsy,  but anyway you can't add the fee after the transaction. (not than I am aware of)

So you only has to wait, and wait..  and hope your transaction get at least 6 confirmation before 11:59 GMT.

Good luck.   :)

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2014, 06:57:32 pm »
Thanks.  Where/how are transaction fees added to any PTS transaction?

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2014, 06:21:22 pm »
If blocks are slow and there are lots of transactions occuring (like there would be today and yesterday), then transactions w/ 0 fees will have a hard time getting into blocks.

I always add excessive fees to my transactions, for DOGE it was 1 per 1kb, for PTS it's 0.001.  the default min_tx for pts is 0.0001, so if you use 0.00011 then it's np.
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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2014, 09:17:07 am »
Keep the wallet open and then wait,no other way.

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2014, 06:00:53 am »
Thanks for the update.  I still only have one confirmation and it's been almost 8 hours.  I was not aware of any transaction fees that needed to be added. Not sure what I should do, feels like my funds are in limbo which is not very comforting.  Should I just let the wallet run all night and hope for the best, attempt to cancel somehow, or close and restart the wallet?

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2014, 05:30:08 am »
Update: The transaction has  11 confirmations  now. Imdon't know why it took 8 hours, but probably because it was a small amount and sender didn't add any transaction fee would be my guess.

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2014, 03:40:31 am »
Hmmm let me know if you come across any news or updates.  My first Dogecoin withdrawal was confirmed in a couple of minutes.  PTS may be full of great ideas but if not user friendly much fail. 

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2014, 03:19:11 am »
No, this is not normal, but you are not doing anything wrong. I had two transactions that took a very long time to confirm today. And I have another transaction that is now 6 hours old and does not hyave a single confirmation yet.

I have no idea what is causing the delay.

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2014, 03:10:02 am »
Update, I have one confirmation and it's been like that for four hours or so... is this normal?

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2014, 12:01:39 am »
I am trying to receive a transaction from Cryptsy to my PTS Wallet.  Wallet shows the incoming deposit, but it's been over an hour and it still shows 0 of 6 confirmations.  How long should this take or am I doing something wrong?

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2013, 10:23:04 pm »
PTS generally has a slow confirmation time.

But yes, ypool is probably the cause for the massive delays. A while ago I noticed a bug in my code that caused blocks that have many transactions get declined by the network, as a hotfix I simply disabled that mempool transactions are added to the blocks mined by ypool. Since then I didn't have a single second to implement the correct fix. As you all are likely aware, ypool has been pestered by various attacks, hardware problems and annoying providers. Now that it all has calmed down I finally have some time to implement the fix.

Be aware that transaction confirmation works as always, it's just the accept to block phase that is delayed. No reason for panic.

Is this the ypool wallet? http://coinplorer.com/PTS/Addresses/PpXRMhz5dDHtFYpbDTpiAMJaVarMUJURT6
I still see only one tx per block. Did the miners not upgrade yet?

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2013, 10:47:13 pm »
Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 12/3/2013 01:37
To: Transfer to Bter.com PmCv9LBtBsaVnmzRSwGEcYmh76kShQEy1v
Debit: -1.68 PTS
Transaction fee: -0.0002 PTS
Net amount: -1.6802 PTS
Transaction ID: 3404b3e59db9e5ab22db7d0523a7168579fb013c0b2015da28c47c0836a2c558


About 16 hours and counting. Still no confirmations.
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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2013, 04:32:38 am »
Another test transaction just completed, it was for 1pts to coingrounds. I started it 1 hour after the other ones. Maybe adding your node helped.

Status: 12 confirmations
Date: 11/16/2013 05:51

The other transactions are still unconfirmed and holding up some of my coins, should I somehow delete them or wait?

May not have been windows... adding the node does help often times.

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2013, 06:17:49 pm »
The slow confirmation times appear to be the result of one or more miners having adopted a policy of refusing to include more than one transaction per block.  See here:

http://btsblock.com/chain/ProtoShares

Ypool (the largest pool) appears to be one the bad actors.  If you compare block numbers from their stats page to the blockchain explorer, it looks like all of ypool's blocks are only including 1 transaction at most.

Thus, everyone trying to send PTS through the network is having to wait until someone else (such as the beeeeer pool) find a block, at which point a bunch of transactions finally get included in a block.

Wow that really sucks, it makes complete sense now. Funny thing is, maybe if that wasnt happening i wouldnt have gotten hacked. I was freaking out about why my coins werent sending for 4 hours. In those 4 hours i could have probably done other useful things like encrypt my wallet instead of worrying about why the coins cant be used.. thanks for the explanation. :)

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2013, 12:36:02 am »
Mine took about 10 hours ~100 confirmations

Crazy... aren't we still finding about a block per minute?

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2013, 12:28:21 am »
Mine took about 10 hours ~100 confirmations

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2013, 12:13:57 am »
Yeah its been about 20 minutes... 0 confirmations. I remember when I would have hundreds in 20 minutes.

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2013, 10:56:35 pm »
100 blocks later, still no PTS at btc38.  at the rate BTC is climbing, the price is gonna dip below the .01 I bought them for by the time I can get to them.

Same here....so......disappoint....sad  :'( :'( :'( :'(

EDIT: PTS FINALLY SHOWED UP!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2013, 10:38:13 pm »
100 blocks later, still no PTS at btc38.  at the rate BTC is climbing, the price is gonna dip below the .01 I bought them for by the time I can get to them.

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2013, 08:02:37 pm »
difficulty + the amt of orphans ypool was getting probably.
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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2013, 07:46:20 pm »
Let's discard all transactions and sell our mined pts! What could possibly go wrong?
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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2013, 07:41:51 pm »
PTS generally has a slow confirmation time.

But yes, ypool is probably the cause for the massive delays. A while ago I noticed a bug in my code that caused blocks that have many transactions get declined by the network, as a hotfix I simply disabled that mempool transactions are added to the blocks mined by ypool. Since then I didn't have a single second to implement the correct fix. As you all are likely aware, ypool has been pestered by various attacks, hardware problems and annoying providers. Now that it all has calmed down I finally have some time to implement the fix.

Be aware that transaction confirmation works as always, it's just the accept to block phase that is delayed. No reason for panic.

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2013, 07:40:52 pm »
The slow confirmation times appear to be the result of one or more miners having adopted a policy of refusing to include more than one transaction per block.  See here:

http://btsblock.com/chain/ProtoShares

Ypool (the largest pool) appears to be one the bad actors.  If you compare block numbers from their stats page to the blockchain explorer, it looks like all of ypool's blocks are only including 1 transaction at most.

Thus, everyone trying to send PTS through the network is having to wait until someone else (such as the beeeeer pool) find a block, at which point a bunch of transactions finally get included in a block.

Why would they refuse transactions?

I hadn't realized this was going on, but was noticing that most of my transactions took 2-4 blocks before getting confirmed, even though I paid the fees.  At least now I know why that was happening.

If I had to guess they assumed that refusing transactions would reduce the orphan count and thus give their pool an edge.   Overall ypool seems to be a bad actor and I would highly recommend supporting another pool. 
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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2013, 07:35:23 pm »
The slow confirmation times appear to be the result of one or more miners having adopted a policy of refusing to include more than one transaction per block.  See here:

http://btsblock.com/chain/ProtoShares

Ypool (the largest pool) appears to be one the bad actors.  If you compare block numbers from their stats page to the blockchain explorer, it looks like all of ypool's blocks are only including 1 transaction at most.

Thus, everyone trying to send PTS through the network is having to wait until someone else (such as the beeeeer pool) find a block, at which point a bunch of transactions finally get included in a block.

Why would they refuse transactions?

I hadn't realized this was going on, but was noticing that most of my transactions took 2-4 blocks before getting confirmed, even though I paid the fees.  At least now I know why that was happening.

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2013, 07:32:03 pm »
The slow confirmation times appear to be the result of one or more miners having adopted a policy of refusing to include more than one transaction per block.  See here:

http://btsblock.com/chain/ProtoShares

Ypool (the largest pool) appears to be one the bad actors.  If you compare block numbers from their stats page to the blockchain explorer, it looks like all of ypool's blocks are only including 1 transaction at most.

Thus, everyone trying to send PTS through the network is having to wait until someone else (such as the beeeeer pool) find a block, at which point a bunch of transactions finally get included in a block.

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2013, 07:26:36 pm »
at coinsgrounds right now, many people are having this issue all of a sudden.  I withdrew some PTS from bter 2 hours ago and still don't have them.  bter doesn't pay transaction fees appartently, but that's out of my control.  sent dozen of transactions over the last couple days with 0 transaction fee and never had an issue.  something isn't right here.

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2013, 02:24:37 pm »
Or could it be because

version" : 80500,
"protocolversion" : 70001,
"walletversion" : 60000,
"blocks" : 18936,
"timeoffset" : 0,
"connections" : 8,
"proxy" : "",
"difficulty" : 0.00051405,
"testnet" : false,
"keypoololdest" : 1384426982,
"keypoolsize" : 101,
"paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
"errors" : ""

paytxfee ==0 , is that normal? Maybe because its not paying tx fee its acting super slow?

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2013, 02:21:49 pm »
I'm guessing its windows being gay. Is there a guide somewhere to set it up for ubuntu?

Edit: Found the guide, will try it on ubuntu https://github.com/InvictusInnovations/ProtoShares/blob/psforkinit/doc/readme-qt.rst
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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2013, 02:10:28 pm »
Another test transaction just completed, it was for 1pts to coingrounds. I started it 1 hour after the other ones. Maybe adding your node helped.

Status: 12 confirmations
Date: 11/16/2013 05:51

The other transactions are still unconfirmed and holding up some of my coins, should I somehow delete them or wait?

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2013, 02:09:31 pm »
well, could you post the PTS addresses?

but I don't know tbh. did you add the extra node?

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2013, 02:08:22 pm »
http://btsblock.com/search?q=c8574094af94b9c04df42aee85cf594d7643c6fc01241b1ab0974f428b79aa8d

mh, there's no tx visible.

did you update your wallet after the fork?

Yeah i know its not; thats why its weird. I got the official wallet from the invictus innovation site 2 days ago. It's running on windows.

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2013, 01:59:56 pm »
http://btsblock.com/search?q=c8574094af94b9c04df42aee85cf594d7643c6fc01241b1ab0974f428b79aa8d

mh, there's no tx visible.

did you update your wallet after the fork?

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2013, 01:55:09 pm »
could you post the TX id?

and add an extra seed node

From console (Help -> Debug -> Console)

addnode 94.23.215.174 add

Node added; Transaction ID: c8574094af94b9c04df42aee85cf594d7643c6fc01241b1ab0974f428b79aa8d

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2013, 01:48:32 pm »
could you post the TX id?

and add an extra seed node

From console (Help -> Debug -> Console)

addnode 94.23.215.174 add

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2013, 01:33:26 pm »
did you restart your wallet?

it's fooling around sometimes...

Yeah I have, a few times, still the same thing. i tried sending a second transaction for 1 pts and also nothing. Getting a bit worried =(

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Re: Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2013, 01:26:59 pm »
did you restart your wallet?

it's fooling around sometimes...

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Confirmation time, is this normal?
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2013, 01:06:50 pm »
Hello,

I am trying to send some protoshares from my qt client for the first time, it has been nearly 1 hour and it is at 0 confirmations. Is this normal? It seemed that receiving was almost instant. Why is it taking so long? Its fully synced.

Thanks!