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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #768 on: December 05, 2013, 08:12:20 am »
why so many  "ORPHAN" recently?
28296 2013-12-05 01:43:20 30 / 61573 -> 0 PTS / 0 PTS -> ORPHAN :(
28294 2013-12-05 01:35:47 178 / 285308 -> 0.01499 PTS / 24.02 PTS -> added
28280 2013-12-05 01:03:34 475 / 701246 -> 0.01627 PTS / 24.02 PTS -> added
28260 2013-12-04 23:45:23 1034 / 1237920 -> 0.02007 PTS / 24.02 PTS -> added
28212 2013-12-04 21:21:58 425 / 572167 -> 0.01878 PTS / 25.28 PTS -> added
28190 2013-12-04 20:16:29 170 / 216312 -> 0.01988 PTS / 25.30 PTS -> added
28180 2013-12-04 19:51:11 2270 / 2996040 -> 0.01917 PTS / 25.30 PTS -> PAID
28039 2013-12-04 14:20:19 434 / 696125 -> 0.01577 PTS / 25.29 PTS -> added
28005 2013-12-04 13:03:07 1545 / 2327564 -> 0.01678 PTS / 25.28 PTS -> added
27891 2013-12-04 08:22:57 234 / 376084 -> 0.01573 PTS / 25.28 PTS -> added
27880 2013-12-04 07:37:27 113 / 189896 -> 0.01505 PTS / 25.29 PTS -> added
27870 2013-12-04 07:15:50 196 / 287681 -> 0.01723 PTS / 25.28 PTS -> added
27854 2013-12-04 06:43:27 105 / 169745 -> 0.01564 PTS / 25.28 PTS -> added
27846 2013-12-04 06:25:00 638 / 976029 -> 0.01653 PTS / 25.28 PTS -> added
27802 2013-12-04 04:32:05 598 / 872171 -> 0 PTS / 0 PTS -> ORPHAN :(
27764 2013-12-04 02:39:43 232 / 325316 -> 0.01803 PTS / 25.28 PTS -> added
27749 2013-12-04 01:57:47 314 / 438078 -> 0.01812 PTS / 25.29 PTS -> added
27724 2013-12-04 01:01:13 641 / 744768 -> 0.02176 PTS / 25.29 PTS -> added
27688 2013-12-03 23:22:08 386 / 426659 -> 0.02288 PTS / 25.29 PTS -> added
27670 2013-12-03 22:22:51 795 / 901423 -> 0.02230 PTS / 25.28 PTS -> PAID
27627 2013-12-03 20:15:30 1457 / 1662560 -> 0.02216 PTS / 25.28 PTS -> added
27535 2013-12-03 16:28:34 134 / 134833 -> 0.02514 PTS / 25.29 PTS -> added
27530 2013-12-03 16:09:01 814 / 892905 -> 0.02305 PTS / 25.29 PTS -> added
27488 2013-12-03 13:56:38 76 / 75374 -> 0.02549 PTS / 25.28 PTS -> added
27484 2013-12-03 13:44:20 1526 / 1622710 -> 0.02380 PTS / 25.31 PTS -> added
27380 2013-12-03 09:13:17 238 / 231008 -> 0.02605 PTS / 25.28 PTS -> added
27252 2013-12-03 03:54:09 730 / 419273 -> 0 PTS / 0 PTS -> ORPHAN :(
27211 2013-12-03 01:57:52 599 / 356920 -> 0 PTS / 0 PTS -> ORPHAN :(
27170 2013-12-03 00:17:56 870 / 831005 -> 0 PTS / 0 PTS -> ORPHAN :(
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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #767 on: December 05, 2013, 02:54:30 am »

@recci:
protoshares is 1 year ahead of it's schedule... just saying  :)

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Not sure what you mean?

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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #766 on: December 05, 2013, 02:05:16 am »
What's going on? Why the sudden drop??

28302 2013-12-05 01:51:45 425 / 75638 -> 0.13497 PTS / 24.02 PTS -> block waiting for confirmations
28296 2013-12-05 01:43:20 328 / 61573 -> 0.12796 PTS / 24.02 PTS -> block waiting for confirmations
28294 2013-12-05 01:35:47 1711 / 285308 -> 0.14405 PTS / 24.02 PTS -> block waiting for confirmations
28280 2013-12-05 01:03:34 4357 / 701246 -> 0.14925 PTS / 24.02 PTS -> block waiting for confirmations
28260 2013-12-04 23:45:23 7702 / 1237920 -> 0.14946 PTS / 24.02 PTS -> block waiting for confirmations
28212 2013-12-04 21:21:58 3417 / 572167 -> 0.15100 PTS / 25.28 PTS -> block waiting for confirmations

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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #765 on: December 05, 2013, 01:03:42 am »
33 rejects, 5088 valids on a Buffalo, NY server
29 rejects, 2433 valids on a Las Vegas, NV server
24 rejects, 1773 valids on a Las Vegas, NV server
0 rejects, 158 valids on a Scranton, PA server
2 rejects, 144 valids on a Dallas, TX server
1 reject, 74 valids on a Houston, TX server
42 rejects, 1745 valids on a Germany server

Now it's

92 rejects, 10377 valids on Buffalo, NY server (8 cores)
57 rejects, 5090 valids on Las Vegas, NV server (8 cores)
60 rejects, 4352 valids on Las Vegas, NV server (8 cores)
7 rejects, 1070 valids on Scranton, PA server (*8 cores) --  ed: it just seems like 4 cores.  gimp Xeon =(
10 rejects, 1128 valids on Dallas, TX server (4 cores)
5 rejects, 448 valids on Houston, TX server (varies)
69 rejects, 4053 valids on Germany server, (7 cores)
18 rejects, 1494 valids on Lenoir, NC server (8 cores)

these are all using the latest git pull, diff versions of ubuntu,  about half on 12.04 and the other half on 13.10

they're also all using the 1024mb memory option

oh, jfyi, that Dallas server is from burst.net...  any new customer can get a server for a month for $1 from them, w/ no strings attached (besides having to remember to cancel it in time)
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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #764 on: December 04, 2013, 05:20:01 pm »
Registered just to report this same issue, large percentage of rejected shares in the last day or two:

Home systems (crashing/rebooting often so the counts are reset often):
4 cores - VL: 255 - RJ: 101
4 cores - VL: 216 - RJ: 48

Hosted server:
8 cores - VL: 29313 - RJ: 3383
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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #763 on: December 04, 2013, 04:23:50 pm »
can you two post the # of threads you're using on your servers??

@orphans:
the orphan streak was caused by the stuck protoshares backend like i said before
but the last one is just bad luck, just like Troglodactyl (thank you) said, it's not possible to prevent this completely
on the other hand, if a pool is big enough it could intentionally try to 'orphan' blocks by other pools/users <-- just saying, in theory

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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #762 on: December 04, 2013, 04:22:43 pm »
can you two post the # of threads you're using on your servers??

@orphans:
the orphan streak was caused by the stuck protoshares backend like i said before
but the last one is just bad luck, just like Troglodactyl (thank you) said, it's not possible to prevent this completely
on the other hand, if a pool is big enough it could intentionally try to 'orphan' blocks by other pools/users <-- just saying, in theory

- xolokram

re: the 3rd one, I don't think it's done intentionally, but, yeah, there's a... uh... slow quark pool that controls about 80-85% of the hashrate and orphans some godawful number of blocks

germany is 7 cores, dallas is 4 cores, houston is 4 cores, the rest are 8 cores

i have some machines running 2 cores here on my home connection that are ~97% valid

ed: in my protoshares log, there's only 1 orphan in the last 6 hour or so and no reorganizations
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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #761 on: December 04, 2013, 04:18:40 pm »
More orphans. What causes these?

yes what does this mean 0 PTS / 0 PTS -> ORPHAN :(

TIA

That means we mined that block, but someone else mined a block as a child to the same parent as ours close to the same time, and the network accepted the other child and thus rejected ours.  Since our block didn't make it into the final chain, we get nothing for it.

or it could be indicative of protoshares client not connected to enough and/or the right peers, or another situation would be a lack of bandwidth and connected to too many peers.  in that case, it'd try to send to them all at once and they'd all get it slow.

I received block 28005 and 28039 from a peer in Germany, despite the pool being in New Jersey (and having over 100 connections in protoshare client).  I imagine it doesn't have very good connectivity (or not enough peers), or maybe it funnels everything through that Hetzner machine (which wouldnt be so hot with the +120-140ms). 
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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #760 on: December 04, 2013, 04:15:39 pm »
can you two post the # of threads you're using on your servers??

@orphans:
the orphan streak was caused by the stuck protoshares backend like i said before
but the last one is just bad luck, just like Troglodactyl (thank you) said, it's not possible to prevent this completely
on the other hand, if a pool is big enough it could intentionally try to 'orphan' blocks by other pools/users <-- just saying, in theory

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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #759 on: December 04, 2013, 04:01:36 pm »
I have 494 rejects of 3553 valid shares. Is that number of rejects normal?
33 rejects, 5088 valids on a Buffalo, NY server
29 rejects, 2433 valids on a Las Vegas, NV server
24 rejects, 1773 valids on a Las Vegas, NV server
0 rejects, 158 valids on a Scranton, PA server
2 rejects, 144 valids on a Dallas, TX server
1 reject, 74 valids on a Houston, TX server
42 rejects, 1745 valids on a Germany server

keep in mind that it's mining to a location in new jersey

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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #758 on: December 04, 2013, 02:29:58 pm »
I have 494 rejects of 3553 valid shares. Is that number of rejects normal?

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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #757 on: December 04, 2013, 02:01:58 pm »
More orphans. What causes these?

yes what does this mean 0 PTS / 0 PTS -> ORPHAN :(

TIA

That means we mined that block, but someone else mined a block as a child to the same parent as ours close to the same time, and the network accepted the other child and thus rejected ours.  Since our block didn't make it into the final chain, we get nothing for it.

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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #756 on: December 04, 2013, 10:27:25 am »
More orphans. What causes these?

yes what does this mean 0 PTS / 0 PTS -> ORPHAN :(

TIA

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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #755 on: December 04, 2013, 10:19:38 am »

@recci:
protoshares is 1 year ahead of it's schedule... just saying  :)

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Not sure what you mean? Also It turns out I was mining more than I realized. I missed a couple of payouts, turns out I have 0.6 of a PTS  :-\

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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #754 on: December 04, 2013, 09:51:47 am »
More orphans. What causes these?