Quote from: bytemaster on November 23, 2015, 10:14:10 pm

And this is where IP becomes a thorny issue that is ultimately slowing us down. If we try to compete based upon IP it is like a country trying to compete by placing tariffs on imports/exports. Ultimately the only thing that "protectionism" does is increase costs to the citizens of the country while hurting the competitiveness of the country and subsidizing unprofitable businesses.

  I'm glad to hear you take this stance.

Quote from: yvv on November 20, 2015, 12:59:05 am

Oh year if you ask 1000 people on the street if they like their government or not, 900 of them will answer not. But they will not pay you a fraction of cent to liberate them because a) they don't actually suffer from regime in most of the world (with very rare exceptions), they suffer from completely different things; and b) you can't give to those who actually suffer from regime any freedom anyway, my libertarian friend. WHAHAHA!!!

If they have a master they suffer. If they pay taxes they suffer. Getting used to the suffering seems to help some get by and these are the people you are describing.

So you're saying mental illness prevents people from fighting for their freedom. I agree. They are mentally ill and accept slavery because of their masters programming. However it is curable.

I'm not a Libertarian. I just don't see the need for a master and I can't ignore your or anyone else's master's atrocities and I can't live my life pretending it's legitimate or needed just to get by like others living with their programmed mental illness that allows them to not only accept their slavery but stand up for and promote it as you and millions of other sheep do publicly.

Embrace teh tyranny! Slavery is much easier! Consume! Obey! Conform! =/

Its seems to me that a decentralized exchange and financial freedom go hand-in-hand... so I think the vision is stronger than ever.  Legacy exchanges that are now regulated still carry substantial risks of default.  Just because a goxing hasn't occured in a while doesn't mean that is the end of it.  Its almost guaranteed to happen again.  The custodian model simply does not work and let's not forget the lessons of the 2008 financial crisis.  Goxings occured on a very large scale but were masked by bailouts and monetary inflation.  Just because losses were socialized doesn't mean that many financial institutions didn't fail.  For instance, the bitcoin network could have bailed out mt gox with fake bitcoin created out of thin air (increasing the 21m limit), but that would have worsened the problem by keeping a failed, incompetent exchange alive, just as many zombie fiat banks are still alive because of fake fiat.  Bitcoin was a step in the right direction and bitshares is a continuation of that vision and it more directly solves the problem. 

I know its easy to get discouraged when prices aren't going anywhere but bitshares has actually outperformed other 2.0 projects (ripple, nxt, stellar) over the past 6 months since the beginning of the summer anouncements.  Of course bitshares has lost value to bitcoin which makes it seem worse.  We have to realize that this is a process that takes time and the dex is still only worthy of experimental amounts of money at this time.  Investors and traders are not going to dump large amounts of money into the exchange all of a sudden.  Over time, as users become more and more comfortable with the exchange, bugs are worked out, and the protocol becomes more solid, then users will begin to migrate towards the exchange.  After all, its only been a little over a month since launch.