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General Discussion / How do you switch the view back to list?
« on: October 15, 2015, 06:33:11 pm »
I discovered how to switch the explorer view from list to cards, like when viewing witnesses, but how to you switch it back to list view?

General Discussion / Off-ramp / exchange options in 2.0?
« on: October 14, 2015, 02:00:43 pm »
As of right now I see that both Meta-Exchange and Shapeshift are not offering to switch BTS for BTC (or for anything for that matter).

Is ccedk the only choice at the moment?

It may be a very good option, I just haven't taken the time to research it yet to see. At least with the other 2 outfits it was easy, only a matter of their fees.

If I understand correctly ccedk requires at least some type of registration, is that correct?

I think we have a whole new ballgame here folks...

General Discussion / When is official launch time?
« on: October 12, 2015, 09:55:10 pm »
I know it is "tomorrow", but is that at midnight tonight, midnight UTC (has that already occurred?) or some other time?

General Discussion / Off-ramps?
« on: August 13, 2015, 06:01:43 pm »
Since the departure of gentso and the shutdown of crytosmith, I find myself wondering what the status of BTS off-ramps currently is. Are there any anonymous or pseudo-anonymous methods of obtaining fiat for BTS or BTC?

Fortunately there are plenty of VPS / hosting providers that accept BTC, so that eliminates one need for an off-ramp. I'm not looking to liquidate my core holdings of BTS, however the economy is very tight and some bills need to be paid in fiat.

So if you know of any off-ramps available currently please reply to this thread along with their basic requirements.


I have never noticed this on any of the VPS systems, but for some unknown reason I can't explain the wallet goes from an unlocked state to a locked state and at the same time block production gets disabled. When this occurs all that is required to resume normal block production is to unlock the wallet.

When I unlock the wallet I set the time for it to remain unlocked to weeks, so that is not the issue.

I'm using different monitoring options in bts_tools than I was on the VPS, and I'm wondering if that might be the cause. It doesn't seem likely, but I'm puzzled by this behavior. It seems to happen every other day or so.

Wackou, I have set the "missed" blocks option in monitoring array, but when this occurs I get no notification, tho blocks are missed. Any ideas why?

This poll will decide where gentso's delegate pay (85% of a 100% delegate) will be redirected. I will retain my existing 15% fee to maintain the delegate node and supply 24 feeds, and handle any oversight of the chosen recipient(s) should the community decide later this redirection should be changed.

I want to stress this redirection is subject to change based on community input, though it will not be changed without a solid case being made here in the forum and well in advance. These funds will of course disappear should delegate.verbaltech be voted out of the 101.

I have tried to provide a wide range of poll options to choose between, including the last 2 open ended "write ins" which may need a different poll to sort through if lots of other options are suggested. Based on the response to this so far I don't think that will be necessary.

I have given this poll 3 days to finish, which will be on Thursday. Final discussion and decision will be made at the end of Friday's mumble and funds will start flowing immediately. I will set the payout period to be every 7 days.

It should also be emphasized that delegate.verbaltech was voted in based on it's business development / marketing value. Some of the poll choices do not represent that but may be worthy alternatives.

Stakeholder Proposals / Where should gentso's delegate funds be sent?
« on: July 26, 2015, 08:52:19 pm »
For now at least, I'm in the position of evaluating what to do with gentso's portion of delegate pay. I could just keep it until I'm voted out, but somehow I don't think that's what the community wants. So unless or until delegate.verbaltech slips beyond the 101 rank, I will disburse 85% to whoever steps up and demonstrates they deserve it. Post your pitch here. I will post a poll in another thread after the candidates posting here stabilize in a day or 2. Keep in mind I could be voted out at any time, but until then I'll do my best and be responsible with these funds.

The more you can say about how you will be measured and how you will demonstrate progress the better your chances of winning delegate pay.

You should explain how your efforts will help BitShares or the community, be it through increased adoption or any other way you can show value to BitShares shareholders. You'll need more than a dog & pony show or a smiling face and jovial laugh (unless you're able to use them to convince a whale to fund a bunch of work, like building ATMs, hardware wallets, mobilizing a sales force to get merchants to install ATMs etc).

I will post a poll in a new thread and will let the community (well, at least the portion of the community that participates here in the forum) decide where I should disburse these funds.

General Discussion / UPDATE about Delegate.Verbaltech
« on: July 24, 2015, 07:22:23 pm »
I just posted this update in the delegate section regarding the status of delegate.verbaltech and Gentso1.

The delegate is offline and it appears gentso initiated it. I know very little more. I haven't spoken to gentso since Monday afternoon.

Here is a link to what I posted in the delegate section: What happened to delegate.verbaltech?

As to the impact on Cryptosmith I have no information. I think that is what Stan wanted to get in touch with gentso about.

Technical Support / Freedom is indeed about choice…
« on: June 27, 2015, 04:41:15 pm »
Regarding the welcoming side of your comments I agree. This community needs to be more welcoming and demonstrate people are welcome here. Like it's been said before there is  and should be no regulations in place preventing people and companies from using this technology. It comes down to the individual then to decide if they get involved on a case by case basis.

I have no opinion one way or the other right now concerning banx.

I do however regarding the above. I agree people should be open minded and welcoming to those that align with the principles of financial freedom, non-violence and personal empowerment, in other words the core philosophy BitShares was built to promote. For those that don't share those ideals I say there's the door, go do your thing on some other playground.

Problem is that some in this community don't value those core beliefs as much as others. To further complicate things the platform itself provides tools that facilitate control by regulators and others that don't value those core beliefs or mistakenly believe that a highly regulated segment can coexist with an unregulated, so called "dark" segment.

I have my doubts about that, but hey - this is an experimental platform for technology as well as governance so I'm willing to see it through and to how it plays out. IMO it's a matter of time before the most powerful force, freedom lovers or regulators, become dominant and push the other group out.

So if anyone sees resistance to the foundational core beliefs that led to the invention of blockchain technology in general and BitShares specifically I say you better expect that here and grow a thicker skin. It shouldn't be personal; anyone that is perceived to assail or be contrary to the core principles that BitShares represents should expect some resistance. It's a matter of protecting the values that provide personal and financial freedom, and that benefits everyone that doesn't want to take advantage or exert control over others.

But alas, many don't understand or care about the core principles and are thus willing to accept regulatory interference under the false assumption it will make them safer and more secure. Others may understand the risks, but acquiesce to regulation to gain more widespread acceptance of BitShares, in hopes they can make big profits and come out ahead in a rigged game by doting their "I"s and crossing their "T"s to avoid the regulator's whims and their thirst for power to control others.

Choose the red pill or blue pill, it's up to you. Like Donald L. Kimball wrote in his book, The Choice, Freedom or Slavery, the choice is ours to make. Please choose wisely.

Meta / Forum Censorship
« on: June 25, 2015, 02:07:01 pm »
There is a discussion raging on reddit right now concerning 5 year old discussions on the bitcointalk forum between bytemaster and satoshi (see this thread).

Given our hopes that BitShares will be significant in history, how well are WE preserving history on THIS forum?

For example, what happened to the Bytemaster's Blog board that originally appeared as a child of General Discussion? That's a big chunk of history now absent from this forum, and I think it should be brought back here for the world to see. It doesn't have to remain as a child of General Discussion, but it should be here somewhere, even if it's the graveyard.

For the record I see it lives on github, and I have made a full copy of it. If it doesn't reappear somewhere on this forum I may republish it elsewhere on the web as I found it on github.

Technical Support / Policies and Procedures Index
« on: June 25, 2015, 12:03:41 pm »
This sticky will be updated by the mods, which contains a collection of links to specific messages or OPs that raise an issue of policy or procedure. The posts can stay wherever they may be found, anywhere on the forum. If you identify an issue that falls in this category please raise attention to it and it will be added to this index.

To help locating these consider adding "MOD_PPI" somewhere in the text of your post. (Moderator:Policies & Procedures Index).

This initial list concentrates on important topics that raise concerns or express direct questions about policies or procedures. If further discussion needs to take place it should be done in the respective threads, and leave posts in this topic for decisions or a current position statement.

Hopefully over time this list will become a central place to refer to important issues that need to be addressed before BitShares 2.0 is launched.

Governance - Can DPoS work? Who will lead?
Voting Procedures
Referral Membership Policy
Account Transfer Policies & Procedures
Official List of Paid Workers, Worker Proposals
Criteria for Paid Workers & Price Feeds
Referals & Default Referal Account
Transaction Fees - Need to propose actual values
Micropayment and Remittance Considerations
Authentication and Identity Management Questions
UIA / Privatized BitAsset Confusion
Potential conflicts with privacy and UIAs
Are micropayments economically viable with BitShares 2.0?
Practical considerations for referrals and faucets in 2.0
How best to address the problem of voter apathy?

Meta / A Centralized Place to Discuss 2.0 "Policies & Procedures"
« on: June 24, 2015, 04:34:45 pm »

The hierarchy would be General Discussion--> BitShares 2.0--> Procedures & Policies <various topics>

Make sense?

I think you should open a meta thread.

My reason against sticky: there are too many again and it's too easy to miss news. this thread is important, and users should see activity (by jumping on top).
Another Sub: do we really need another childboard for one thread?

Not one thread. Didn't you read my description? Just off the top of my head I came up with several.

I proposed another child board under BitShares 2.0 b/c that is the logical place for it. If people don't understand hierarchy how the hell do they navigate a filesystem? If they're too complacent or lazy to click down another level perhaps they don't have much worthwhile to contribute anyway. Would it be helpful to relocate the BitShares 2.0 child board up one level?

The main point is this: even before 2.0 this forum was a sprawling octopus without mods taking care of posts the way fav has been doing recently. The structure isn't that bad but people don't bother to post in the most appropriate place, and the longtime heros don't discourage misplaced posts so it has gotten out of control. The culture here (until recently) has been post whatever where ever.

We need more focus and better organization. This place is chaotic enough for people who have been here awhile, but a nightmare for noobs. We do need Best Practices, and a clean slate for 2.0, starting with a forum that is organized to focus topics and discussion with a goal to resolve as many issues as can be identified before 2.0 launches.

One possibility would be to create a single, locked sticky post that only the mods can update, which contains a collection of links to specific messages or OPs that raise an issue of policy or procedure. They can stay wherever they may be found, anywhere on the forum. It could be a single post under the sticky that is updated with new links or it may be a different post for each topic that gets updated. Either way such a sticky would be one central place to organize such discussions, no matter where they occur on the forum. Once people recognize the usefulness of having such an "index" they will help mods by flagging such topics for inclusion into the index. It won't get out of hand b/c only the mods have the ability to update the locked sticky / threads. For example:

Voting Procedures
Referral Membership Policy
Account Transfer Policies & Procedures

General Discussion / Economic Philosophy i.e. Why Socialism is Bad
« on: June 15, 2015, 04:09:40 pm »
To the mods: please allow this thread to stay here so it will be seen, at least until tomorrow. After that if you feel it would be more appropriate in random discussion or elsewhere feel free to move it.

This strikes to the heart of what we're trying to accomplish with this ecosystem. Most here will not find the perspective foreign, but for those that may this message is for you.

This is a short 16 minute review of the economic philosophy portrayed by Star Trek. It is concise and well articulated. Enjoy!

Random Discussion / Mr Robot
« on: June 15, 2015, 03:50:58 am »
Follows a mysterious anarchist who recruits a young computer programmer (Malek) who suffers from an anti-social disorder and connects to people by hacking them. MR. ROBOT, a tech by day/vigilante hacker by night is recruited to destroy the firm he's paid to protect, and must decide how far he'll go for his beliefs.

This is a new series to start on 6/24/2015 10 EDT / 9CDT starring Christian Slater as Mr. Robot. You can watch the entire first episode online now. I really liked it. Should appeal to many in this community.

Here and there I see snippets of things people post that indicate there are more details elsewhere (like this for example:,16794.msg214842.html#msg214842).

I've been reading the announcement pages, and the website but can't find a more detailed source of information.

Where is it and why is it so difficult to find? Shouldn't there be a whitepaper? Shouldn't the "Learn more" links I see point to a repository of definitive (as of this moment) information?

Vikram mentioned that github was to be the new hosting service for BitShares, but the link given in that post just pointed to a github repository, not a document site. That was confusing. Plus I've not seen any other references to github for BitShares 2.0 documentation. I expected to see something similar to this "Read the Docs" website, which can also be edited on github.

I also went over to the github repo for Crytonomex and have been looking around there, including the wiki. Glad I did, there's lots of wonderful details for techies, just not the detail docs I'm trying to find.

Can anyone point me to a website with nitty gritty details? Where did xeroc pull that graphic from?

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