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General Discussion / Re: can anyone catch me up on NXT quickly?
« on: October 15, 2014, 09:04:00 pm »
I think there should be cheap btsx user issued assets too, maybe have 2 categories, a premium and a cheap one, the only difference being prominence in the client.

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I'd be willing to contribute 20k bitUSD to a nubits style peg enforcement. IMO he best would actually be to have an extremely deep bitcoin to bitUSD market, rather than usd to bitUSD. I imagine that large volume usd to bitUSD will not happen on an exchange, but only once a more convenient on-ramp has been created.

Btw, the automatic short cover really should be implemented at 30 days for everyone instantly, perhaps with up to an extra 30 day randomly chosen offset to there isn't a huge btsx dump in a single day. I know it's unfair for the shorters who didn't expect it, but they are also btsx holders and must agree that for btsx to begin taking off we must have a deep bitUSD peg ASAP.

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General Discussion / Re: Can PTS be made PoS as per PND or BlackCoin
« on: October 15, 2014, 12:27:23 pm »
Why not make PTS an asset on btsx? That would mean there would actually be an active market on the decentralized exchange, and it would remove the issue of exchanges not helping with DAC snapshots.

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General Discussion / Re: Open Bazaar
« on: October 14, 2014, 08:42:53 pm »
I started this thread because I think Open Bazaar is not viable in its current form.    I think I have a more profitable, self-funding, design for achieving the same thing they are.... only better.

1) Users shouldn't have to keep their computers on to "serve" their ads.  That is a non-starter for the masses.
2) Users want auctions as well as fixed price sales / ads.   
3) Users want a solid filtering system for items.

So you implement a DAC that allows users to post ads, start auctions, and implement "buy it now" functionality.   The DAC would execute the auction and natively support a local BitUSD / other currencies.

Merchants looking to sell to this audience now have a central place to list their products and get paid in BitUSD....

Implemented properly this DAC would grow far faster than Open Bazaar.. especially with the marketing it could fund to bootstrap.

Not that I want to "compete with everyone out there"... but you have to do it right and Open Bazaar is missing some critical design points.

Last I heard we were short of developers, and OpenBazaar was working hard on their project with no idea how to make it profitable.

Rather than launching a competing project we don't have the time to support, I suggest showing them how to make their project profitable, why they should support bitUSD, and why they should honour PTS and AGS if they use the toolkit to support the profitability model.

This - why not offer to help them build a DAC if they agree to honour the social contract for AGS/PTS holders?

Utilize the OB dev team that is in place, supply high-level oversight from the I3 team.

Minimal resource input for I3 but maximum returns for the development kitty.

Win win for the whole world.

Working on something bigger.... and better for everyone.

Shouldn't the current focus be on making the BTSX wallet work flawlessly, and getting online wallet/mobile wallet/cold wallet/POS support? I really hope this open bazaar debate is not going to take the focus off our current biggest issue, which is most definitely the wallet and usability situation.

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General Discussion / Re: Quaterly Delegate Voting
« on: October 14, 2014, 04:49:51 pm »
So you want to restrict voting to once per 3 months? Or you want to invalidate all votes after 3 months? This seems like a bad idea in my opinion, although maybe it would make sense to invalidate a vote after 1 year of inactivity, since the stake could be lost and a "locked in" vote is unsafe since it cannot react if the delegate turn rogue.

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General Discussion / Re: Lets get ebay not Open Bazaar...
« on: October 14, 2014, 11:58:28 am »
Like luckybit said, in order to get into eBay we just need to create demand. 

Think viral:

Begin to checkout, put an item in the cart, get stuck, request help from merchant, ask merchant if he accepts BitUSD, tell him you want to pay in BitUSD and it's cheaper for both of you, show him an on-ramp link, tell him you'll buy when he can accept it, rinse, repeat.  There's a lot more potential for this on eBay than anywhere else


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What you are describing is an example of something that isn't real demand.

If people here really are naive enough to think that kickstarting adoption is is just a matter of "thinking big", then the target market should be taobao rather than eBay. BitUSD actually has a decent USP for international trade, AND the bitshares community is really big in China.

But in the end a decentralized solution loses most of its advantage when marketed to a centralized marketplace where everyone have to be in compliance anyway.

It is irrational to ignore that if I demand a product via bitUSD, then I have created demand for bitUSD

This is exactly how Bitcoin got its way into overstock..

You misunderstand what demand means in economic terms. It means that you are actually willing and able to buy something at a given price. It doesn't mean spamming or tricking people to think there is demand. Unless you're actually ready to buy things with bitUSD if it was available, yet not willing to buy them with other means, then there is demand for bitUSD. Also, I highly doubt spamming was a big factor in getting on overstock, especially considering how Patrick Byrne seems to ideologically support bitcoin.

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General Discussion / Re: Lets get ebay not Open Bazaar...
« on: October 14, 2014, 11:09:00 am »
Like luckybit said, in order to get into eBay we just need to create demand. 

Think viral:

Begin to checkout, put an item in the cart, get stuck, request help from merchant, ask merchant if he accepts BitUSD, tell him you want to pay in BitUSD and it's cheaper for both of you, show him an on-ramp link, tell him you'll buy when he can accept it, rinse, repeat.  There's a lot more potential for this on eBay than anywhere else


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What you are describing is an example of something that isn't real demand.

If people here really are naive enough to think that kickstarting adoption is is just a matter of "thinking big", then the target market should be taobao rather than eBay. BitUSD actually has a decent USP for international trade, AND the bitshares community is really big in China.

But in the end a decentralized solution loses most of its advantage when marketed to a centralized marketplace where everyone have to be in compliance anyway.

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General Discussion / Re: Open Bazaar
« on: October 13, 2014, 10:05:05 pm »
Remember what caused the first bitcoin bubble to 30 usd? That's why OB will become ridiculously huge.

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General Discussion / Re: Lets get ebay not Open Bazaar...
« on: October 13, 2014, 09:59:34 pm »
For eBay the competition is pretty much endless and people don't care about fees once they go below a few %. There's no reason to choose bitUSD unless it is the system you are already using. Soon we will have to compete with Facebook payments too.

For OB the competition is nubits, and nothing else.

Going after eBay would be a terrible mistake.

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General Discussion / Re: Our most immediate needs: a good wallet
« on: October 13, 2014, 09:04:40 pm »
we're working on a new wallet GUI .. also Bitsapphire is working on an alternative wallet... stay tuned ....

Weeks? Months? 2015?

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General Discussion / Re: The problem with multi-sig transactions...
« on: October 13, 2014, 08:59:53 pm »
This would unfortunately make open bazaar integration much less straightforward, or at least be used differently on OB than other coins, leading to confusion (BTSX' greatest weakness). But otoh I agree that this is a better solution overall, due to its user friendliness.

I think the emergence if this inbuilt escrow system, and others like it, would create an industry wide debate about how to handle the reputation system of escrow agents. Should they be platform based (such as OB), coin based or universal as an external system to the others?

I personally predict that OB will end up becoming the only p2p trade platform, so it would make sense to have it be the default WoT for the entire crypto economy. That might also be an argument against a BTSX escrow system that doesn't fit into OB, unless btsx development takes the lead in implementing a custom OB bitUSD integration.

In the long run I'd like to see this system for Titan txs and regular multisig for non-Titan txs.

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Applying the inactivity fee only to unclaimed stake is ridiculous. But an inactivity fee is most definitely needed, if the DAC is to survive long term and ensure long term voting. People who wish to park their wealth could have a special command that forfeits their voting rights and makes it publicly possible to see the total amount of coin in non-voting, long term storage.

That issue will be more contentious because even though it was part of the original design it may not be great for marketing etc. Either way it can be approached as a separate issue.

I think though people who would like to avoid dilution but still would like BTSX to be competitive with plans like this https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=9452.msg123029#msg123029 may support this measure and it would help give BTSX a potential long term funding source that keeps within the original design.

Security is more important than marketing. It would downright immoral to remove an essential security feature just to improve the short term gains of early adopters.

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Applying the inactivity fee only to unclaimed stake is ridiculous. But an inactivity fee is most definitely needed, if the DAC is to survive long term and ensure long term voting. People who wish to park their wealth could have a special command that forfeits their voting rights and makes it publicly possible to see the total amount of coin in non-voting, long term storage.

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General Discussion / Re: Max Wright video tweeted on Coinapult
« on: October 11, 2014, 11:11:04 pm »
I love this video. I just think its too bad there isn't actually a way to buy bitUSD with btc directly.

try
 https://bter.com/trade/btc_bitusd

ATM there's not even a full BTC's worth at anywhere near market price.

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General Discussion / Re: Max Wright video tweeted on Coinapult
« on: October 11, 2014, 10:00:45 pm »
I love this video. I just think its too bad there isn't actually a way to buy bitUSD with btc directly.

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