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General Discussion / Re: Use optional ad revenue to lower fees.
« on: October 21, 2015, 02:00:21 pm »
Lets just PAY them to view ads so they can pay their fees.


https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bQVLiXR68Uv-Ea9s9YldjD16Qz-GWG7sgWih3Jiv9Dg/pub

Here's an internal document from Freebieservers discussing the possibility of using advertisements as a means to lower entry barriers for end users, especially in growing economies.
We didn't pursue it as a business and have scheduled it for the unforeseen future. Sharing, because relevant.

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Freebie / The FS Revelation : Tracking a year's involvement in crypto
« on: October 21, 2015, 01:29:45 pm »
Hey guys,

There's been a lot of discrepancies regarding our involvements in a series of ventures and there's been a large number of queries concerning how far does the freebie world really go. While we started off as "free game server" provider, the core of our business goes far beyond that . As a company with about 5000 dollars in funding, one of our strategies was to be involved in a series of partner ventures, where we could add value, either in terms of development or marketing. Over the last year, apart from marketing, our cash flow has also come from development we've done for a series of partner ventures. In cases where we found sure-shot synergies and absolute long term profitability in working together, we've taken minor stakes and in cases where we believe we are not going to be able to add substantial value in the long run, we take a clear payment and deliver on our promises.  This thread is my humble attempt to document our journey over the last year.

1.  Mynxt.info -Nxt Synergy


Our first major partnership was with the Nxt community on garnering users for mynxt.info. The campaign involved us garnering users for Mynxt over a 2 week period in December 2014.  We integrated modals and other marketing tools on our platform while completely revamping the payment module to work with Nxt's   wallet system to give the users an experience of how wallets work. Mynxt was gracious enough to offer 10 Nxt to each user that signed up. We strategically used this to garner over 14,000 sign ups for Nxt. The contract stated 5000 sign ups, but we were able to over-deliver, partly because of a surge in users due to the vacation and secondly, due to the offerings made by Mynxt. This was our first major campaign after 8 months of launch and scale.

2. Launch of a revamped Game Control Panel

In January 2015, we launched a completely revamped game control panel that was developed in-house for the purpose of enabling gamers to have better access and control over their game servers. The idea behind this was to replace out-dated software from 2009 with new software that beat industry standards. This also gave us flexibility in terms of being able to revamp the platform for user cases that required re-coding the server management software. This was a 4 week operation that was funded by our listing on the Asset Exchange of Nxt and remains to this day, crucial to our operations.

3. Nxthaus Collaboration.


In Feb 2015 we decided to work with Dominik Schiener, CEO of Nxthaus on revamping their tech stack and launching the platform. The exchange had raised funds in May 2014 and struggled for a year due to a lack of developers and banking related issues. We were given the wonderful opportunity to engage in revamping the platform and finally putting it on launch.  Our team was involved back-end development and administration of the servers. 

4. Xpool.Ca

We were involved with a crucial revamp of the platform that enabled the website to run its operations with Nxt.

5. CoinRaq.com

CoinRaQ is the application and service designed to take the challenge coin and fuse it with block-chain technology. Through CoinRaQ, you gain the ability to create custom branded challenge coins for purchase and distribution.  Created in partnership with a  board member of Nxthaus

6. Colored Coins

Created an RPC and GUI for the team.

7. WeTipTap
Assisted the administration at Nxthaus to launch the Tipbot for Nxt. Currently allows tipping on platforms like reddit, facebook, twitter and slack.

In the mean time, we have also picked up on core businesses with the intent of creating a gaming ecosystem that enables  the gamer demographic to engage in transactions. The entire idea of "freebieservers" was to create a marketing funnel for the following projects while enabling gamers around the world to come, have a clutter free gaming experience on an online platform. Our cash flow deficits during months we don't advertise heavily are to be tackled by the launch of the following projects.


1. Gamebet

We’re building a legal betting platform for gaming leagues. We believe Esports stands to grow substantially over the coming years and combining the power of crypto with it enables us to create cultural shifts amongst our target demographic, while ensuring profitability and scale.  The new betting platform stands to do 6 million dollars a month in revenue once at scale and work within a multi-billion dollar industry with very little competition.  We are 80 percent done with the project and intend to launch in the month to come. Preferably, we catch the crowds in the vacation period for christmas.

Further Information : https://www.dropbox.com/s/vfp02mud3np625q/ExecutiveSummary.pdf?dl=0

2. TheGambit

The idea is to create the world's first game item exchange powered by crypto-currencies. We have a base structure to the platform live and internally tested. The project was taken down while we worked upon the establishment of Gamebet - in order to enable cross platform integration and real time sale of tickets to place bets.

3. Lyth

We serve on the board of Lyth as a partner and this is one of the best partnerships we've engaged in so far. We stepped in on the last minute and saved the project from a closure. In exchange we received an opportunity to work (with full financing) on creating a MMO that runs on Nxt's blockchain.
Further information here :
https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=10023.0
https://nxtforum.org/lith-the-nxt-mmo/lyth-development-announcement-(alpha-spoilers-inside!)/



Hence over the last year we've evolved beyond just gaming. Our involvement has gone through fin-tech, social media and community development. As a start-up, ever single month, we fight the devil called short term cash deficit and as we fight our way through to that beautiful shore of profitability, there are times we sit back and wonder wtf are we even doing anymore. We prefer staying far away from the limelight and being the hackers and artists  that just love building for the heck of solving a problem. Due to the same, you might not see us engaging in PR blitzkriegs or pointless marketing tactics. But, every, darned time ,we've had the opportunity to add value to ecosystems or engage in revamping things, we've delivered on our promises. Unfortunately, a large batch of our ideas go to waste, or die a sad death because we often don't find the means to bring them to life, but that is the struggle behind what we do.
You win some, you lose some.

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General Discussion / Re: Reducing Bitshares Supply : A different approach
« on: October 21, 2015, 12:49:07 pm »
Hi, I'm the CTO of Freebie, LLC and one of the development team members.

I normally stay away from this stuff... the spotlight is not where I like to be, my spelling and grammar is horrid and I don't take criticism well.

So now that we have gotten the obvious facts about me out of the way, let me say that I did not write the post above.  This project is not my idea, but it does have my backing.

About two years ago now I founded Freebie as a humble game server company, a friend and I gave it an honest shot with our paychecks and it fizzled out and failed... one day I was browsing hacking forums and I met this guy who was offering 'unlimited servers' for a partnership... this was a guy in India who had connections to some influential server companies (aws, ibm) and got me grants to run my company with literally no investment, just a promise of partnership...

Time goes on, and the grants ware off, no one gets free stuff forever right? so were stuck with a problem...
how do we fund and monetize a platform at the same time?
so this guy I met, there's something particularly special about him, I found... Among his many eccentricity's (and really hot blooded attitude) I found he has a passion... His passion was this crypto currency that I knew existed and understood some of the implications there of, but what i found truly magical was the way he saw this stuff,

He instantly recognized it for what it was, not just money, but a solution to many world problems, a fix for the corruption and greed that has ruined his own country, and many others.
You know, I'm not exactly a humble person, I like to think i know it all, but every day i look into this persons mind and I find new concepts and new ideas for changing the world that i never thought was possible...and you know a funny thing is that the vast majority of them are based around helping people (for a profit) and changing technology for the better.

so why am i telling you all this? isn't this a post about an exchange? who the heck is this kuro guy?
well you see the person who I've spent this time discussing goes under the guise of something I created,
every day he wears the name freebie servers (sometimes not for the better)

What I see too often, in this, and many other crypto currency communities is that the people with money are less interested in helping people and changing technology than they are
in making solid returns - I don't blame anyone for this, no one, in the end, is a true altruist. but that being said even those who don't bother a claim on such nonsense tend to stick with ideas that are 'sexy' and to me, this means repeating the same content over and over again in the name of healthy competition...

Too often do we see people with great marking skills get thrown tons of money and burn it away on nothing, while people with true game changing technology and skills get left in the dust.

In the end this has been going on for the better part of 4 years in crypto currencies and only now is technology like bitshares starting to emerge and discuss things like 'decentralized exchanges' as a possibility, and when it does come up in discussion, the natural reaction and backlash of most people is that its either impossible or too big of a task to undertake.

Freebie is a team of people dedicated to profit, change, mass adoption and cutting edge technology... each of us has our own story for how crypto has reached across the borders of this planet
and changed our lives... I don't know what you, reader, have for an economic situation, but I am not from a well off family, I grew up in Detroit, I work very hard for every satoshi I earn.

THAT is what sets us apart... we aren't casually into crypto, we don't do this in between our real lives, this is literally our lives - it reaches out across borders and allows us all to live a life of true freedom.

Freebie IS Crypto, Freebie IS the concept of Bitshares made reality.

Too much? too tacky? sorry, this is literally my first post in all of crypto... I told you I don't like the spotlight, but sometimes you guys frustrate me so much just watching it all play out, and watching this game of politics get played while nothing actually happens...

I hope that my ranting and our technical breakdown is enough for you to understand where we are coming from, and I will go silent once again to let freebie respond to your questions about the data.

Hope my words reached at least some people, thanks for your time.

-Kuro

Am usually the talkative one, but this guy has me silenced today.

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General Discussion / Re: Reducing Bitshares Supply : A different approach
« on: October 21, 2015, 04:43:12 am »
I need to owe up to something. Stating a "completely decentralized exchange for alts" in 3 weeks time, was a mistake on my behalf.
What I meant however was for bitshares pairs and assets. Again, because this can be done with the 2.0 API already.

We could possibly create a centralized exchange, but that kind of beats the purpose of what I wanted it to do.
Here is what my dev had to say.

Let’s use https://bittrex.com/ as our point of reference and ignore the idea of needing to create a public api as they’ve done.

Before we can get implementing the bid/ask system, first we must address depositing funds. We need to create a system for each currency we intend on supporting that has some basic features: creating a new address (so we can associate it with the user), querying the balance on an address, and sending funds. A abstract driver might look something like this:

public abstract class BaseRpcConnection
{
    public abstract decimal QueryBalance(string account);
    public abstract void Send(string account, string address);
    public abstract string CreateAddress();
    public abstract void Shift(string account, string master);
}

For the majority of alts, they’ll all end up all using the same driver (the same as the bitcoin driver) since their RPC api is identical. There are however a few currencies that require individual connection classes (i.e. NXT, BTS, ETH to name a few).

All in all, this doesn’t take long, it just requires a bit of research on the alts you intend on setting up and their apis. The tedious task is setting up the daemons for each coin, but we’re going to not focus on the time that takes because we’re focused on the coding aspect of it.

Somewhere in your database, you would store the information as such:
   username : string
   password : string
   rpcUrl : string

We could store port, but for some systems such as nxt, their end point isn’t simply the port but contains “/nxt” so it’s easier to store the rpc url.

Now when a user creates a wallet we simple need to do something like RpcConnection.Create(coinName) and then call invoke the instance member CreateAddress. There should be a background worker than scans users accounts for deposits and uses instance member Shift to move the funds to a central account (note: with Bittrex, the reason they use a memo field for NXT, BTS, etc. is because there is no internal shift or off-blockchain transaction like there is with the BTC daemon, so they make you deposit with a memo or message to avoid the transaction fee of shifting funds so it all ends up on one account).

Once funds are received, update the internal ledger (database) of how much funds they own within our system. Likewise, if they withdraw you deduct this amount from the internal ledger. Worthy of noting is handling balances with database locks to prevent concurrency exploitations.

Ok great, we can now accept funds (that obviously didn’t take too long…) the next step is being able to list ask/bid transactions. Pretty straight forward, an order looks something like this in the database:
   id : int
   buy : boolean    (if false then sell)
   quantity : decimal
   rate : decimal
   pair : string   (i.e. BTC-LTC)

if you wanted to be more “efficient” you could take the Cryptsy approach and use numeric representations for currencies, but since it’s likely there’s like less than 1000 pairs, this is a minor optimization for loss of easy readability.

Matching bid/ask pairs and then executing orders isn’t hard, I don’t think this is really worth going into depth about explaining… literally this could be assigned as a first year computer science project.

And then boom, at this point you have a very basic exchange. Time consumption really begins to be exhausted when you want to implement supplementary features (i.e. market tracking so that you can plot the time based data on a graph.. people today seem to sure love those candle sticks) for open/close plotting (ask/bids). Another more obvious supplementary feature would be a public api.

Difficulties with decentralization:

So going back to the principal of it all, an exchange has two aspects. Storing (and executing) the asks/bids, and storing the funds. Storing the funds is the biggest problem with decentralizing an exchange, whereas the ask/bid information is simply arbitrary data that exists on a blockchain.

The reason storing funds is so complex is because this needs to be done in a way that doesn’t involve using the alt coin daemons (it would be unreasonable to have a user running all the daemons the exchange supports) but still needs to be able to verify their balances (even if a user dumps their wallet clone on the block chain, they could still spend after an ask/bid was listed).

In Conclusion:

So it’s obvious that creating a centralized exchange can be done within this timeline but a decentralized exchange is a whole different story. To say the least, if initially we start with a centralized exchange, we then end up with a working model for a decentralized platform once we’ve developed a blockchain technology that tackles the problems listed below (i.e. once we’ve created the api for the decentralized ledger/exchange, it’s only a matter of plugging it into our exchange website in place of the centralized order books and balances).

Other challenges in creating a decentralized platform involves using a cross-platform language (i.e. Java, Python, Node.js) but I’d like to heavily place emphasis on any of these languages (as well as even C/C++) are fine to use and the decision is literally up to preference and what’s easier for the person creating the distributed platform.

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General Discussion / Re: Reducing Bitshares Supply : A different approach
« on: October 20, 2015, 07:56:40 am »
Take 80% of the fees (burn 20%) and when you reach 100 BTC (yep, not 75 BTC!)
then make the transition to 50:50 as your initial plan was....

PS  I am serious, People are tired to fund projects that never deliver what they are promise.If you are confident for your product you have nothing to fear! The  soonest you deliver the sooner you will get your profit's.
PS2 And then yes, I believe it will be successful and will find big support (traders) ...
PS3 You can make the transition even after you reach 150-200 BTC...
     

We have increasing interest from people here to see an actual product that works.
Although we have had hiccups on some of our new projects (EsportS) we've delivered  on most promises and are confident we can make this happen.
If I see a bit more interest, I'll issue a UIA .

We need about 50 BTC to get started - so I think , it will be best to follow the model you've suggested and make the transition as more and more people use it. 

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Interesting responses guys, keep them coming.

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General Discussion / Re: Reducing Bitshares Supply : A different approach
« on: October 20, 2015, 06:54:33 am »
Very blatant.

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General Discussion / Re: Reducing Bitshares Supply : A different approach
« on: October 20, 2015, 05:50:12 am »
I literally love all the things you guys have done.  All my research about you on the NXT forums has shown me amazing work and a reputation that is second to none bro. 

You guys also represent a respectible chunk of NXTs value...so you and your team coming here to build for the worlds fastest blockchain shows me a change in the winds.

I personally will back (pretty much) anything you and your brilliant fellas work on.  I voted for the dividends because i think we need a means of both burning (bts currently is very deflationary) AND putting a stream of cashflow into bts holders pockets...

Indeed,
The nxt community has had a crucial role in us being whatever we are and their contributions have helped us grow to whatever we are.
Our next project - Fs E:Sports is 80 percent done and we are close to launch with a proper legal framework around it - was listed on the Nxt asset exchange for primary backing and we'll probably list there post launch. The asset was taken down momentarily though, due to legal issues and other involvements prolonging launch time.
We are extremely happy and proud of our involvement with their MMO : Lyth. It has been an honor working with their team so far
More info here : https://nxtforum.org/lith-the-nxt-mmo/lyth-development-announcement-(alpha-spoilers-inside!)/msg197059/#msg197059


We have been involved with nxt's major exchange (Nxthaus) and we believe we can deliver on this if given a chance.
We don't really intend to hold back on profit and hence the 50 percent dividend  issuance for backers.
If there's sufficient interest, I just might issue a UIA later today.

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General Discussion / Re: Reducing Bitshares Supply : A different approach
« on: October 20, 2015, 05:31:33 am »
There have been lots of exchanges offering lots of services.
If we were to do this, we intend to solve just one problem : Smooth exchanging, with complete transparency and liquidity proven at all times in a decentralized fashion. 

I don't know what people would back more (burning or dividends) - but depending on what people want we might make that choice if we find appropriate backing.

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General Discussion / Reducing Bitshares Supply : A different approach
« on: October 20, 2015, 05:08:34 am »
Hey guys,

Lead biz dev of freebieservers.com here.
First off, really appreciate the feedback you gave on the ultra thread.
Knowing what people need, and don't require in a timely fashion helps us improvise ourselves as a company and create solutions that actually matter.
One of the problems people here have been mentioning is the short pace at which coins are burned.
I've been thinking a fair amount about the evolution of the ecosystem here at Bitshares and wondering what would be an alternative solution to go about doing this.

One of the most beautiful things to come out of the community here is the means to create a decentralized exchange with complete transparency.
While CCEDK has done a great job, we believe Bitshares is in a great place where it can use more exchanges and we believe we can create a unique user experience
Instead of linking to financial services and bringing in fiat, we intend to create a simple platform for the safe and transparent exchange of altcoins and UIA's .
The entire platform will be decentralized and tokens verified by the blockchain , leading to very few single points of failures.

Now, so far , the concept is basic.
What I intend to do different however is, pledge a certain part of the tx fees and revenue of this venture towards burning coins.
Assuming we get enough support to do this and go ahead and build it, we'll be willing to pledge 50 percent of all revenue into burning bts
In terms of ownership, our holding company will maintain and retain ownership but we would be happy to let go of a larger chunk in case people want to back us through PE deals.


Think about it : We could burn a couple bitcoin's worth Bitshares every day. With decreasing supply of Bitshares, the value of existing coins would increase, leading to a win solution for everyone.
Alternatively, we could simply choose to issue x amount of the profits as a dividend, but I simply believe we can do better service to the community by taking this route.

We are looking to raise a total of 75 Btc to make this happen and will take a 3 week time period to put the platform live.
Thoughts guys?

Do vote on the poll

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General Discussion / Re: Implementing AdSense into BitShares Forum
« on: September 12, 2015, 10:48:31 am »
Mind sending me a message with  a break down on server expenses ?
Might be able to offer something better.


Regards

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General Discussion / Re: Streamium.io
« on: September 06, 2015, 06:45:28 pm »
Currently in touch with a company developing this + B2B white labelled streaming solutions for organizations. Basically, what they developed helps organizations set up their own netflix in a matter of minutes.

If any of the biz dev's here would want to talk with them, just let me know.

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General Discussion / Re: TOP 3 REASONS TO BUY BITSHARES NOW!
« on: August 29, 2015, 06:50:27 pm »
Check your PM urgently, thanks

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Now, if you're not trying to offer equity in your business then you have plenty of options.

You can issue a UIA which represents anything you want. It could be points, discounts, gifts, coupons, vouchers, as long as you legally bind yourself to redeem the UIA it will have value to us. So we could buy the UIA knowing it will always be redeemable for whatever you'll accept in exchange for it.

It could work just fine for in-game items for example. Bitshares Play would probably be best for this but if make it a token of some sort which applies to more than just games, then you might be onto something. Look at Bunkershares to figure out a good model, also profit sharing is possible if you consider the holders of the token members of your club.

We've  been internally considering the Bitshares play model of fund raising for a bit.
We might have a token issuance soon.

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