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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Stealth Transfers Worker Proposal
« on: November 22, 2015, 06:00:24 am »
though I'm also a little bit disappoint about the Cost 45k which I think the feature already exist in BTS0.x but now need to re-paid. I prefer to get this done ASAP because this is really important to the huge fund get into the system. huge fund don't want their operation display to the public.

Huge fund will likely develop a private chain and pay CNX to help them do it unless there is a compelling reason to join the public chain.

personally I don't care CNX get paid and this will be used to other projects because currently CNX is the bitshares.

Exactly. While it looks like CNX makes all the money and takes none of the risk keep in mind that consulting firms live and die by their reputation. As much as Bitshares is their lab it is also the flagship in their portfolio. Every consulting project, or worker proposal in our case, has defined terms. If you don't like CNX's offer then make a counter proposal that's agreeable to them and the community and try and get it voted in.

In business you don't get what you deserve you get what you negotiate.


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General Discussion / Re: Graphene Blockchains
« on: November 21, 2015, 06:00:31 pm »
#btstip "DestBest" 200 BROWNIE.PTS
Thanks bro  ;D

:D

Btw...where did MUSE get their badass logo?
@cass of course. Though I think the concept was someone else's.

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General Discussion / Re: 1,000,000 ...
« on: November 17, 2015, 04:13:12 pm »
So what.no real user.only empty blocks

Yes. It's important to remember that every silver lining has a cloud.

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General Discussion / Re: 1,000,000 ...
« on: November 17, 2015, 03:14:44 pm »
Woho! +1

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General Discussion / Re: [Ann] Electrons.io Open Beta Testing [Ann]
« on: November 17, 2015, 04:26:47 am »
hopefully none of that drama dissuaded users from giving this a try, after all its completely free to use...


There certainly isn't anyone that doesn't know about this project now :).

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General Discussion / Re: Reasons for Lowering Fees
« on: November 15, 2015, 04:53:36 am »

The fees are high compared to other crypto exchanges but their model is different. They issue IOU's in exchange for cheaper fees because the trading is all done off chain with the promise to honor the transactions (assuming they don't get robbed). Our trades are done on chain, no trust required, and therefore cost more. When compared to traditional exchange businesses we are insanely cheap. Best price the average consumer can get on the NYSE is about $7/trade - and that's not even "on chain".

So we can target the tiny crypto market or make it a fertile ground for people to run their businesses on and go after the "real" markets.

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General Discussion / Re: [ANN]Now Open: ShareBits CrowdDonations
« on: November 15, 2015, 04:43:07 am »

I think everything is just fine, Fuzzy. I was only trying to get the numbers worked out in my own head.

Best not to tweak anything at this stage IMHO. You'll never get agreement from everyone and what is here is just fine.

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General Discussion / Re: [ANN]Now Open: ShareBits CrowdDonations
« on: November 15, 2015, 03:26:51 am »
this is the reason why it is to complicated. I dont get it why not everything is converted into shares, so it is easier to decide for investors to chip in.

After thinking about it more it looks like these shares are not equity stake but a profit sharing bond of sorts. The amount of funding desired is therefore meaningless in determining valuation - only IPO price.

Thank you tonky and shentist. I still think it's a great project and a good buy in price - just not as straightforward to evaluate as I had first thought.

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General Discussion / Re: [ANN]Now Open: ShareBits CrowdDonations
« on: November 15, 2015, 02:16:11 am »

@Shentist I think you too are conflating revenue splitting with valuation. There are 250k shares for everyone at $0.18/share. How the revenue is then divided up is a different set of numbers. Since there isn't any revenue yet there's no way to add that into the mix.

if you see it this way - ok!

What am I missing? This is much more your bag than mine.

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General Discussion / Re: [ANN]Now Open: ShareBits CrowdDonations
« on: November 15, 2015, 02:02:32 am »

@Shentist I think you too are conflating revenue splitting with valuation. There are 250k shares for everyone at $0.18/share. How the revenue is then divided up is a different set of numbers. Since there isn't any revenue yet there's no way to add that into the mix.

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General Discussion / Re: [ANN]Now Open: ShareBits CrowdDonations
« on: November 15, 2015, 01:28:01 am »
anyway could you not derail this thread? im sure people want to discuss the topic

IMHO this is on topic. Asking for donations at a fixed price per share means the project has a valuation. Extrapolating that valuation is an import metric to those who are deciding if, or how much, to donate.

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General Discussion / Re: [ANN]Now Open: ShareBits CrowdDonations
« on: November 15, 2015, 01:26:09 am »

I think you're making it more confusing than it needs to be. I think your conflating valuation with revenue splits?

$9000 from 50k shares is $0.18/share.

250k shares @ $0.18/share = $45,000

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General Discussion / Re: [ANN]Now Open: ShareBits CrowdDonations
« on: November 14, 2015, 10:44:18 pm »

Answered in the first post after the ANN. Donations post $9k will be returned to sender in about a week.

I'm talking if we dont reach the 9k. You're talking if we go above 9k.

/Facepalm - sorry my bad.

Next question: If I hypothetically donate enough to get 1% of the 250k ShareBits would that mean I would get 1% of the 44% of the fees allocated to Sharebits, or, in other words, owning 1% of the 250k would be earning 0.44% of all fees generated by the enterprise?

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General Discussion / Re: [ANN]Now Open: ShareBits CrowdDonations
« on: November 14, 2015, 10:37:21 pm »
What if the 9k isn't reached, let's say you get 5k, will the 50k sharebits be distributed through the donators as well? meaning each person who donated gets more share bits?

One thing I might have missed or you didn't mention, people don't need to tip ShareBits, they will be able to tip bitUSD, bitAsset BEER, bitAsset COFFEE, bitCNY, etc, right?

Yes, you will be able to tip any bitshares UIA or bitassets.

You missed the first question.


Answered in the first post after the ANN. Donations post $9k will be returned to sender in about a week.


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