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As long as there's no official announcement regarding any partnership with a bank I wouldn't count too much on it. It's nice to hint at discussions with an interested potential banking partner, just to keep us on our toes, but I won't get too excited before it's official. There's way to many things that can go wrong in these kind of discussions. But those discussions happening is a good sign nonetheless!

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Others that could be added to that list: maybe Overstock?  Adam B Levine?  Toast coming back into the fold?  These are things that were potentials that fell through.

There was totally a rumor about Overstock partnering with Bitshares.  Then Patrick Byrne announced the counterparty partnership, and that was the top for the Bitshares price in october.
(Of course, counterparty got screwed in the end.  But they did get a price pump for a while).

Okay.  I just put it there because people got overly optimistic when they heard BM had met with Overstock. Doesn't change the real issue which is we parterships were not formed with Maidsafe/Ethereum.  I don't know what stage they were at, probably just talking over emails or by the booth. 

Coinbase is another one which BM fired off as being interested.  We still have yet to see that come to fruition.

At this stage its easier to BM to make suggestions of things (which may very well be in the works) than to come to a meeting to say nothing at all and have rabid investors calling for change.  Implying things, especially when given as a trickle of news, are a good way to delay release dates.  Now a delayed release is probably best for bitshares 2.0 since it cultivates the best product release.  All I'm just saying, look at what's being said, and how that may play into the overall strategy. 
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Others that could be added to that list: maybe Overstock?  Adam B Levine?  Toast coming back into the fold?  These are things that were potentials that fell through.

There was totally a rumor about Overstock partnering with Bitshares.  Then Patrick Byrne announced the counterparty partnership, and that was the top for the Bitshares price in october.
(Of course, counterparty got screwed in the end.  But they did get a price pump for a while).
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He just stated that there might be a partnership with an actual bank and didn't want to go into details ..

Great news. I will have to hear the record when it is released.

For the record, Bytemaster did this before when he spoke about partnering with Maidsafe... Ethereum.... is this another case of that remains to be seen.  Its a nice hint, but don't get too excited.


Others that could be added to that list: maybe Overstock?  Adam B Levine?  Toast coming back into the fold?  These are things that were potentials that fell through. 
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Headline for Newmine's next post:

Bitshares devs to abandon Bitshares, work to make blockchain for some bank.

is @Newmine buying BTS after making these kinds of statements?

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He just stated that there might be a partnership with an actual bank and didn't want to go into details ..

Great news. I will have to hear the record when it is released.
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Headline Newmine's next post:

Bitshares devs to abondon Bitshares, work to make blockchain for some bank.

LOLOL  +5%
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Headline for Newmine's next post:

Bitshares devs to abandon Bitshares, work to make blockchain for some bank.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2015, 07:39:05 pm by Ander »
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Have you included the newest information BM revealed in todays Hangout about an
actual BANK being very interested in CNX, the graphene tech and or BitShares
itself?!

It seems some more exciting news are going to be announced :D

Did you miss the part where after Newmine gets ahold of it, he will still find a way to make Bitshares look back and get people to sell, so the price will just drop more?

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I think I'll have to listen to the recording of that hangout! Was there any more details, or was it a subtle comment on which BM refused to expand?
He just stated that there might be a partnership with an actual bank and didn't want to go into details ..

although, the big question was [understandably] avoided: is this in reference to a bank's interest in somehow using Bitshares, or in hiring CNX for work? huge difference...

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Since then the market has had to price in that it could actually still be a
while till 2.0 release and that with so many additions there may be quite a few
kinks to work out before it's a stable customer friendly version. The market
has to price in CNX. The market has to price in Ethereum may start trading
soon. While other BTS announcements have been well received by the community,
they don't result in any short term increase in the number of BTS users
or BitAssets. All the while BTS is releasing millions of BTS per week
via the merger and as it is very thinly traded at the moment it's hard
to support the price especially with Greece news which drew a lot of
speculators into non CNY based crypto-currencies.
Have you included the newest information BM revealed in todays Hangout about an
actual BANK being very interested in CNX, the graphene tech and or BitShares
itself?!

It seems some more exciting news are going to be announced :D

 +5% Cool. My personal opinion is that as we've seen in the past,  being 'very interested' isn't the same as making some form of commitment. Also the market would have to figure out if a bank being interested in CNX and Graphene is necessarily great for BitShares.

(For example the bank may offer CNX tons of money for further developments that they don't want released to BTS or made public for a while. This may make our developers unaffordable and unavailable to BTS and reduce BTS related development.)

BTS developers would certainly deserve the success though. 

What is your best guess on when BTS 2.0 will be released?


 
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I think I'll have to listen to the recording of that hangout! Was there any more details, or was it a subtle comment on which BM refused to expand?
He just stated that there might be a partnership with an actual bank and didn't want to go into details ..

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Have you included the newest information BM revealed in todays Hangout about an
actual BANK being very interested in CNX, the graphene tech and or BitShares
itself?!

It seems some more exciting news are going to be announced :D

I think I'll have to listen to the recording of that hangout! Was there any more details, or was it a subtle comment on which BM refused to expand?

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Since then the market has had to price in that it could actually still be a
while till 2.0 release and that with so many additions there may be quite a few
kinks to work out before it's a stable customer friendly version. The market
has to price in CNX. The market has to price in Ethereum may start trading
soon. While other BTS announcements have been well received by the community,
they don't result in any short term increase in the number of BTS users
or BitAssets. All the while BTS is releasing millions of BTS per week
via the merger and as it is very thinly traded at the moment it's hard
to support the price especially with Greece news which drew a lot of
speculators into non CNY based crypto-currencies.
Have you included the newest information BM revealed in todays Hangout about an
actual BANK being very interested in CNX, the graphene tech and or BitShares
itself?!

It seems some more exciting news are going to be announced :D

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Has anyone ever considered that "traditional" analysis does not work with BitShares for the simple reason that there was a SHAREDROP not only on investors and traders, but also on "uninformed" people that just had some bucks left and want to exit?

BitShares is one of the easier crypto to trade based on traditional investing analysis.

The 90% loss of value & slow decline of BTS once dilution became a reality was very predictable. (BTSX would have been circa $300-400 million today without it imo.)

We know that a lot of bitcoiners and altcoiners think btsx is a "crapcoin" and a ponzi scheme. So why do we really care what they say about us diluting btsx?

Kind of reminds me of the famous five monkeys experiment. 
Nobody in those communities is willing to go for the bananas any more
but no one remembers why.
;)


Kind of reminds me of the famous goose that laid the golden eggs.



(The date I said we were killing the golden goose was the date of BTSX's BTC high 0.00009234)


The developers then hinted and announced that they'd been writing code and working on BTS 2.0 which includes a lot of great additions.
The market responded correctly and BTS increased in value by 150% from the lows. ($8 million to over $20 million)

Since then the market has had to price in that it could actually still be a while till 2.0 release and that with so many additions there may be quite a few kinks to work out before it's a stable customer friendly version. The market has to price in CNX. The market has to price in Ethereum may start trading soon. While other BTS announcements have been well received by the community, they don't result in any short term increase in the number of BTS users or BitAssets. All the while BTS is releasing millions of BTS per week via the merger and as it is very thinly traded at the moment it's hard to support the price especially with Greece news which drew a lot of speculators into non CNY based crypto-currencies.

Personally I think it's unlikely BTS will go under $10 million prior to the BTS 2.0 release but will spike leading up to and in the first weeks of actual release, where it goes from there depends on how good everything is. But basically limited downside and good upside so a good time to buy BTS now. (Unless Greece/China really implodes in the next few weeks and then you might want to be more in the crypto-currencies that make big moves in response.) 

It's also not like competitors are grossly over-valued by comparison. NuShares has just released their Nudroid Mobile wallet and are advertising heavily on CMC and also supposedly have more dollar stable product in circulation in the form of NuBits and are valued at 14% of BTS which seems fair. (I've never owned or looked into NuShares very much personally other than to see that NuBits are obviously very ponzi-ish.)
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