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Offline eagleeye

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Re: [POLL] Tipbot Yes/No
« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2015, 07:42:53 pm »
I think having the tipbot around is good.  When new people come they will wonder in a positive way about it.  They will think "can I make my own currency"

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Re: [POLL] Tipbot Yes/No
« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2015, 08:03:04 pm »
I don't thing spamming is a problem. You can spam manually or with a bot, with ou without token.
I can send 1 fistbump or write a message saying "fistbump"  every 5 minutes, it's almost the same.
It's spamming, no need for tokens to do that.

great point.  so i guess this is a good way of countering the point fav made about it hurting forum discussions by derailing topics since the tipbot is not in any way a superior way of spamming compared to more traditional approaches.

I think having the tipbot around is good.  When new people come they will wonder in a positive way about it.  They will think "can I make my own currency"
You see one valuable aspect eagle and it is great to know that you see it.  But I think we have even overlooked something:  when they consider wanting to make their own asset, if the tipbot is alive and well they will likely have a well of people who are capable of helping them create it because more people will have practiced doing so (because they have a REASON to). 

This entire argument against the sharebot is like saying "do we need roads? Yes/No?" then saying something like: "people put up billboards near them and the one for the porn store makes my town look bad"....

to which the answer is obvious: Your town will be much more pissed if they have to walk deer trails to get anywhere. Im also willing to bet your town's economy will suffer because of the lack of roads. 
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Re: [POLL] Tipbot Yes/No
« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2015, 08:05:36 pm »
I think the bot is running stable and testing should be over soon.

[member=31]fav[/member]  Also, this is incorrect.  Who told you this?  Did I tell you?  or did [member=38688]kuro112[/member], [member=40140]hybridd[/member], [member=32130]Freebieservers[/member] ?  Otherwise this would have been smart to run past us.
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Re: [POLL] Tipbot Yes/No
« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2015, 08:11:47 pm »
Please allow me to give you a link to a new, parallel post to give people an idea of the misinformed nature of this poll: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20598.0.html
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Re: [POLL] Tipbot Yes/No
« Reply #34 on: December 12, 2015, 08:55:35 pm »
The sharebot project is stupid.
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Re: [POLL] Tipbot Yes/No
« Reply #35 on: December 12, 2015, 09:35:12 pm »
The sharebot project is stupid.

"Roads are stupid"  he says :D

"Passing tokens outside our ecosystem in a way that could become viral is stupid" he says :)

I guess you could look at Changetip's success as an indicator of how successful it could be...then add to that it is the fastest bot in the world because of bitshares.  I guess all that is "stupid" though eh phillyguy? 
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Re: [POLL] Tipbot Yes/No
« Reply #36 on: December 12, 2015, 09:57:37 pm »
I don't like social tokens and I don't like the tipbot.

HOWEVER, I see where the general use of social tokens comes from. The tipbot is a great tool to generate awareness. I have no statistics available, but I'm pretty certain that the tipbot/social token stuff is used a lot more actively than any other assets on our blockchain (except BTS itself and some MPAs of course). That's why I think that yes we definitely need both. Here and everywhere else.

(It wouldn't be the first time that some genius makes a really clever invention for the good of mankind, and then mankind comes along and uses it for some completely irrelevant crap. As in, invent the internet - and use it for facebook.)
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Re: [POLL] Tipbot Yes/No
« Reply #37 on: December 12, 2015, 10:05:04 pm »
I don't like social tokens and I don't like the tipbot.

HOWEVER, I see where the general use of social tokens comes from. The tipbot is a great tool to generate awareness. I have no statistics available, but I'm pretty certain that the tipbot/social token stuff is used a lot more actively than any other assets on our blockchain (except BTS itself and some MPAs of course). That's why I think that yes we definitely need both. Here and everywhere else.

(It wouldn't be the first time that some genius makes a really clever invention for the good of mankind, and then mankind comes along and uses it for some completely irrelevant crap. As in, invent the internet - and use it for facebook.)

ShareBits is the Yin to BitShares' Yang bro. 

With that said, I truly appreciate you coming here in an attempt to be constructive.
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Re: [POLL] Tipbot Yes/No
« Reply #38 on: December 12, 2015, 10:08:08 pm »
I can't believe a "free speech" forum is discussing censorship?!

No to censorship. Ban children from the forum instead.
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Re: [POLL] Tipbot Yes/No
« Reply #39 on: December 12, 2015, 10:11:55 pm »
I can't believe a "free speech" forum is discussing censorship?!

No to censorship. Ban children from the forum instead.

How does the forum assess who are children? All our individual opinions may differ.

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Re: [POLL] Tipbot Yes/No
« Reply #40 on: December 12, 2015, 10:19:27 pm »
I can't believe a "free speech" forum is discussing censorship?!

No to censorship. Ban children from the forum instead.

How does the forum assess who are children? All our individual opinions may differ.

I have 2 characters, I am pretty damn sure are below the age of 11...tuck and fuzzy
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Re: [POLL] Tipbot Yes/No
« Reply #41 on: December 12, 2015, 10:44:49 pm »
I can't believe a "free speech" forum is discussing censorship?!

No to censorship. Ban children from the forum instead.

How does the forum assess who are children? All our individual opinions may differ.

I have 2 characters, I am pretty damn sure are below the age of 11...tuck and fuzzy

Tuck is only acting like everyone else on the forum here lately to prove a point. What's funny is you are usually the most abrasive person on this forum and he has given you an opportunity to look sane for once. You should be thanking him for the opportunity to redeem your reputation. Just my 2 million BTS. Carry on kids.

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Re: [POLL] Tipbot Yes/No
« Reply #42 on: December 12, 2015, 10:53:23 pm »
I can't believe a "free speech" forum is discussing censorship?!

No to censorship. Ban children from the forum instead.

How does the forum assess who are children? All our individual opinions may differ.

I have 2 characters, I am pretty damn sure are below the age of 11...tuck and fuzzy

Tuck is only acting like everyone else on the forum here lately to prove a point. What's funny is you are usually the most abrasive person on this forum and he has given you an opportunity to look sane for once. You should be thanking him for the opportunity to redeem your reputation. Just my 2 million BTS. Carry on kids.

I should redeem my reputation on this forum?
I am not signing in for that, any time soon, whatever you might mean.. I would rather throw bricks or brics or throw fist pumps at crapcoins or brownies....
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Re: [POLL] Tipbot Yes/No
« Reply #43 on: December 12, 2015, 11:45:31 pm »
The sharebot project is stupid.
What a useful comment.

On a more serious note, he's a follow up of my thoughts. I'm personally against moving the bot to strictly PMing, because lets look at this from an outsiders PoV, if you say someone writing #tip "xyz" 123 BTS, you'd have no idea what that does... but the follow up post provides an explanation, a link to where to learn more about it, etc. It self-spreads by people using the service. It also serves as a confirmation notice. I'm for whatever the community decides though.

Now, there are a few improvements that could be made to making the bot less spamful. It's posts could all be put in spoiler tags (does this forum have those? I'm sure fav knows what I'm talking about), smaller font could be used, and if say the bot went offline and needs to reply to 2/+ people all at once in the same thread it could condense all the replies into 1 post rather than several sequential posts.

I feel like a lot of the people in this thread are the kind of people who 10-20 years back thought smart phones were a dumb idea.
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Re: [POLL] Tipbot Yes/No
« Reply #44 on: December 13, 2015, 12:34:49 am »
Is there a way to tip without posting a message (plus the bot's follow up) in the forum? Is there a way to do it by PM, for instance?

In its present form, this is causing a lot of spam. I do want to have a bot for Reddit, Twitter, and FB, etc., but what it does to the forum is more trouble than it's worth.