First of all, my apologies if I have offended anyone. I tend to get rather passionate, especially when I feel the discussion is sequestered. It's not really, but participation is difficult on Telegram as I said. IMO I believe all of the details discussed on Telegram should be done more here rather than there
Sorry [member=21490]Thom[/member] I didn't know you were expecting a reply from me. You had stated your case, and I stated mine, so I figured there was no sense in me spending any more time in the discussion. Sorry man, was not trying to avoid you or anything, have just been very busy.
Second, to [member=30868]kenCode[/member], please don't misunderstand what I've said as any disrespect for you. My language may not have adequately conveyed that. We do differ on our perspective on this issue, and I wish you had the desire to discuss it more here, but I understand you're very busy and apparently you find Telegram more efficient for managing your time. You're right, in that we both have presented our perspectives, and it's clear we differ on this issue. I just wished you explained your position better here concerning the expenses, labor and profit running a witness. As I said, I don't see it as a viable business anywhere but the poorest of economies. Nuf said, no need to repeat myself.
Thanks [member=21490]Thom[/member] for what you have done as witness, but anyway please calm down.
many discussion happened in Telegram as it is an instand messenger so many people like the convenience, however it is just discussion, to make decision we always need open discussion and voting.
I have also considered 5BTS or 8BTS as an option, after some open discussion and the poll I decided to propose 4BTS. then I found many shareholder prefer 3BTS, I think it is good to let the community select from no change, 3BTS and 4BTS by voting, that's what had happened.
now 3BTS get most support, however we still have 9 days for voting, 4BTS option still has chance to win. if you believe 4BTS is better, you can try to talk with proxies to get support from them.
Third, thank you [member=23]bitcrab[/member] for your kind words, they are greatly appreciated. I also appreciate your efforts to wrangle this discussion into something productive that will help BitShares to move forward and not gradually fade away. It's not easy to achieve a consensus and I see you as being right in the middle of bridging the gap between the east and west. We both want BitShares to be successful even if our motivations and cultural perspectives differ. As for 3, 4, or whatever witness pay option is best, I will let xeroc make that decision for me. I believe 3 will be a good first step, and we can see what that achieves.
I like what I've seen [member=39182]tbone[/member] contribute to this issue as well, and think increasing witness pay is not adequate alone. If the consensus is to increase witness involvement and quality, we also need to establish some standards to measure witness performance and to quality new witnesses prior to them being voted in. Voter apathy is an obstacle for both adding new witnesses as well as removing them, so pre-qualification would be one way to address that problem.