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According to https://mxc-exchange.zendesk.com/hc/zh-cn/articles/360040060791

1. Deposit reward (total 86 accounts)
Code: [Select]
账号                  奖励BTS   奖励MX
w****hao@vip.qq.com 69868.49 4657.90
h****irin@foxmail.com 32321.21 2154.75
h****u_art@163.com 29331.71 1955.45
1****08850@qq.com 26589.46 1772.63
4****3940@qq.com 26435.93 1762.40
b****2355@qq.com 25575.17 1705.01
n****ucai@163.com 11239.33 749.29
1****11114@qq.com 10312.09 687.47
8****8633@qq.com 9234.59 615.64
q****ozhai@gmail.com 6353.50 423.57
w****01@gmail.com 5965.46 397.70
1****0488@qq.com 4617.29 307.82
1****53806@qq.com 3412.63 227.51
3****2677@qq.com 3210.51 214.03
j****zheng@163.com 3078.17 205.21
z****ong360@gmail.com 3009.43 200.63
4****6579@qq.com 2483.07 165.54
h****453@gmail.com 2465.44 164.36
b****ao1992@gmail.com 2308.65 153.91
1****92336@qq.com 1539.08 102.61
7****027@qq.com 1539.07 102.60
1****93739@qq.com 1351.60 90.11
j****englong@126.com 1213.12 80.87
n****nminhdai999888@gmail.com 1164.32 77.62
x****han.bts@foxmail.com 1036.40 69.09
l****open@163.com 975.50 65.03
w****rli2007@163.com 938.76 62.58
y****guang@126.com 822.53 54.84
1****460730@163.com 769.55 51.30
8****3830@qq.com 769.53 51.30
d****3@126.com 756.48 50.43
t****ieppy@gmail.com 615.87 41.06
4****0974@qq.com 573.02 38.20
3****5058@qq.com 544.64 36.31
6****4079@qq.com 506.52 33.77
9****3659@qq.com 489.64 32.64
r****tore18@gmail.com 489.04 32.60
8****0281@qq.com 463.27 30.88
1****2227@qq.com 443.07 29.54
v****7207@gmail.com 400.35 26.69
1****64281@qq.com 362.67 24.18
z****oo@163.com 333.58 22.24
w****i@qq.com 309.36 20.62
3****41820@qq.com 290.00 19.33
m****suke627@gmail.com 260.85 17.39
2****5080@qq.com 252.01 16.80
c****@189.cn 248.52 16.57
1****78323@qq.com 206.02 13.73
g****anku@gmail.com 196.69 13.11
x****ying@163.com 169.48 11.30
v****u121299@gmail.com 169.41 11.29
1****40495@qq.com 164.48 10.97
y****inping@126.com 154.19 10.28
Z****98255@126.com 154.16 10.28
1****01173@qq.com 138.52 9.23
3****0648@qq.com 126.88 8.46
i****llet@gmail.com 111.74 7.45
6****6261@qq.com 107.98 7.20
k****gkampret877@gmail.com 98.96 6.60
h****ng1881@163.com 89.26 5.95
l****00@qq.com 84.65 5.64
z****qq.com 77.02 5.13
5****4088@qq.com 55.61 3.71
1****921576@139.com 46.19 3.08
1****985517@139.com 46.19 3.08
l****0@aliyun.com 39.54 2.64
d****6218@gmail.com 38.76 2.58
n****ntrongbacvt@gmail.com 38.46 2.56
1****78983@qq.com 35.43 2.36
1****9855@qq.com 32.29 2.15
m****hza@gmail.com 31.35 2.09
5****1431@qq.com 30.77 2.05
a****irahayusukmana5@gmail.com 28.81 1.92
z****qy@gmail.com 27.22 1.81
1****89698@qq.com 26.29 1.75
S****hy@gmail.com 23.93 1.60
d****ngha39808@gmail.com 23.35 1.56
p****ristina83@gmail.com 21.93 1.46
c****er150488@gmail.com 18.60 1.24
m****lta007@gmail.com 18.53 1.24
p****ongquan80879@gmail.com 16.95 1.13
8****0943@qq.com 16.86 1.12
i****uliel@gmail.com 16.39 1.09
b****hahur@gmail.com 15.57 1.04
1****48788@qq.com 15.53 1.04
4****5649@qq.com 15.53 1.04

2. trading reward (total 58 accounts)
Code: [Select]
账号                 奖励BTS          奖励MX
3****07624@qq.com 62043.48 4136.23
n****nminhdai999888@gmail.com 33813.87 2254.26
i****er2601@gmail.com 33691.99 2246.13
w****hao@vip.qq.com 32566.66 2171.11
w****inhao2366@foxmail.com 25796.47 1719.76
7****7110@qq.com 19084.12 1272.27
1****08850@qq.com 16726.88 1115.13
4****3940@qq.com 14271.98 951.47
b****2355@qq.com 11747.84 783.19
1****834103@sina.cn 9722.03 648.14
n****ucai@163.com 5068.59 337.91
w****01@gmail.com 2941.58 196.11
m****0925@126.com 2941.58 196.11
r****tore18@gmail.com 1943.25 129.55
1****53806@qq.com 1897.34 126.49
1****985517@139.com 1872.32 124.82
1****921576@139.com 1855.49 123.70
8****0281@qq.com 1757.16 117.14
n****ntrongbacvt@gmail.com 1369.49 91.30
7****027@qq.com 1312.15 87.48
2****05329@qq.com 1279.78 85.32
m****1170878@163.com 1201.94 80.13
5****0097@qq.com 1060.99 70.73
1****92336@qq.com 853.18 56.88
q****ozhai@gmail.com 652.98 43.53
l****0@aliyun.com 626.48 41.77
n****08@126.com 604.09 40.27
v****u121299@gmail.com 577.81 38.52
b****ao1992@gmail.com 497.70 33.18
z****qq.com 479.59 31.97
m****iaolong@126.com 476.59 31.77
j****zhonglin@x.mxc.com 474.91 31.66
1****64335@qq.com 473.85 31.59
y****guang@126.com 457.22 30.48
x****ying@163.com 448.73 29.92
8****3830@qq.com 442.28 29.49
1****399465@139.com 435.23 29.02
m****hza@gmail.com 426.46 28.43
5****110@163.com 424.38 28.29
d****3@126.com 369.85 24.66
8****3830@qq.com 362.77 24.18
8****965@qq.com 340.59 22.71
2****6763@qq.com 330.22 22.01
a****irahayusukmana5@gmail.com 329.72 21.98
4****0974@qq.com 318.46 21.23
p****ieunuong37560@gmail.com 312.02 20.80
t****ieppy@gmail.com 305.60 20.37
8****2519@qq.com 304.81 20.32
3****5058@qq.com 301.92 20.13
n****nxuanhuong92754@gmail.com 300.22 20.01
d****6218@gmail.com 283.81 18.92
d****thaomy63152@gmail.com 270.08 18.01
9****3659@qq.com 268.65 17.91
b****usadco@gmail.com 265.80 17.72
3****0519@qq.com 263.10 17.54
7****7601@qq.com 262.61 17.51
n****ngonbong@yahoo.com 259.71 17.31
v****7207@gmail.com 231.58 15.44

Reward data for 2020-02-29

(note: SPARKDEX.BTC and SPARKDEX.ETH were removed since 2020-02-04)

(data generated with Ruby 2.6.5p114 (2019-10-01 revision 67812), script revision 6486918)

Total 4043.48162 BTS

Deposit on a scam exchange gets rewarded with almost 70k BTS for one trader and providing liquidity for all market makers on the DEX 4k BTS?

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According to https://mxc-exchange.zendesk.com/hc/zh-cn/articles/360040060791

1. Deposit reward (total 86 accounts)
Code: [Select]
账号                  奖励BTS   奖励MX
w****hao@vip.qq.com 69868.49 4657.90
h****irin@foxmail.com 32321.21 2154.75
h****u_art@163.com 29331.71 1955.45
1****08850@qq.com 26589.46 1772.63
4****3940@qq.com 26435.93 1762.40
b****2355@qq.com 25575.17 1705.01
n****ucai@163.com 11239.33 749.29
1****11114@qq.com 10312.09 687.47
8****8633@qq.com 9234.59 615.64
q****ozhai@gmail.com 6353.50 423.57
w****01@gmail.com 5965.46 397.70
1****0488@qq.com 4617.29 307.82
1****53806@qq.com 3412.63 227.51
3****2677@qq.com 3210.51 214.03
j****zheng@163.com 3078.17 205.21
z****ong360@gmail.com 3009.43 200.63
4****6579@qq.com 2483.07 165.54
h****453@gmail.com 2465.44 164.36
b****ao1992@gmail.com 2308.65 153.91
1****92336@qq.com 1539.08 102.61
7****027@qq.com 1539.07 102.60
1****93739@qq.com 1351.60 90.11
j****englong@126.com 1213.12 80.87
n****nminhdai999888@gmail.com 1164.32 77.62
x****han.bts@foxmail.com 1036.40 69.09
l****open@163.com 975.50 65.03
w****rli2007@163.com 938.76 62.58
y****guang@126.com 822.53 54.84
1****460730@163.com 769.55 51.30
8****3830@qq.com 769.53 51.30
d****3@126.com 756.48 50.43
t****ieppy@gmail.com 615.87 41.06
4****0974@qq.com 573.02 38.20
3****5058@qq.com 544.64 36.31
6****4079@qq.com 506.52 33.77
9****3659@qq.com 489.64 32.64
r****tore18@gmail.com 489.04 32.60
8****0281@qq.com 463.27 30.88
1****2227@qq.com 443.07 29.54
v****7207@gmail.com 400.35 26.69
1****64281@qq.com 362.67 24.18
z****oo@163.com 333.58 22.24
w****i@qq.com 309.36 20.62
3****41820@qq.com 290.00 19.33
m****suke627@gmail.com 260.85 17.39
2****5080@qq.com 252.01 16.80
c****@189.cn 248.52 16.57
1****78323@qq.com 206.02 13.73
g****anku@gmail.com 196.69 13.11
x****ying@163.com 169.48 11.30
v****u121299@gmail.com 169.41 11.29
1****40495@qq.com 164.48 10.97
y****inping@126.com 154.19 10.28
Z****98255@126.com 154.16 10.28
1****01173@qq.com 138.52 9.23
3****0648@qq.com 126.88 8.46
i****llet@gmail.com 111.74 7.45
6****6261@qq.com 107.98 7.20
k****gkampret877@gmail.com 98.96 6.60
h****ng1881@163.com 89.26 5.95
l****00@qq.com 84.65 5.64
z****qq.com 77.02 5.13
5****4088@qq.com 55.61 3.71
1****921576@139.com 46.19 3.08
1****985517@139.com 46.19 3.08
l****0@aliyun.com 39.54 2.64
d****6218@gmail.com 38.76 2.58
n****ntrongbacvt@gmail.com 38.46 2.56
1****78983@qq.com 35.43 2.36
1****9855@qq.com 32.29 2.15
m****hza@gmail.com 31.35 2.09
5****1431@qq.com 30.77 2.05
a****irahayusukmana5@gmail.com 28.81 1.92
z****qy@gmail.com 27.22 1.81
1****89698@qq.com 26.29 1.75
S****hy@gmail.com 23.93 1.60
d****ngha39808@gmail.com 23.35 1.56
p****ristina83@gmail.com 21.93 1.46
c****er150488@gmail.com 18.60 1.24
m****lta007@gmail.com 18.53 1.24
p****ongquan80879@gmail.com 16.95 1.13
8****0943@qq.com 16.86 1.12
i****uliel@gmail.com 16.39 1.09
b****hahur@gmail.com 15.57 1.04
1****48788@qq.com 15.53 1.04
4****5649@qq.com 15.53 1.04

2. trading reward (total 58 accounts)
Code: [Select]
账号                 奖励BTS          奖励MX
3****07624@qq.com 62043.48 4136.23
n****nminhdai999888@gmail.com 33813.87 2254.26
i****er2601@gmail.com 33691.99 2246.13
w****hao@vip.qq.com 32566.66 2171.11
w****inhao2366@foxmail.com 25796.47 1719.76
7****7110@qq.com 19084.12 1272.27
1****08850@qq.com 16726.88 1115.13
4****3940@qq.com 14271.98 951.47
b****2355@qq.com 11747.84 783.19
1****834103@sina.cn 9722.03 648.14
n****ucai@163.com 5068.59 337.91
w****01@gmail.com 2941.58 196.11
m****0925@126.com 2941.58 196.11
r****tore18@gmail.com 1943.25 129.55
1****53806@qq.com 1897.34 126.49
1****985517@139.com 1872.32 124.82
1****921576@139.com 1855.49 123.70
8****0281@qq.com 1757.16 117.14
n****ntrongbacvt@gmail.com 1369.49 91.30
7****027@qq.com 1312.15 87.48
2****05329@qq.com 1279.78 85.32
m****1170878@163.com 1201.94 80.13
5****0097@qq.com 1060.99 70.73
1****92336@qq.com 853.18 56.88
q****ozhai@gmail.com 652.98 43.53
l****0@aliyun.com 626.48 41.77
n****08@126.com 604.09 40.27
v****u121299@gmail.com 577.81 38.52
b****ao1992@gmail.com 497.70 33.18
z****qq.com 479.59 31.97
m****iaolong@126.com 476.59 31.77
j****zhonglin@x.mxc.com 474.91 31.66
1****64335@qq.com 473.85 31.59
y****guang@126.com 457.22 30.48
x****ying@163.com 448.73 29.92
8****3830@qq.com 442.28 29.49
1****399465@139.com 435.23 29.02
m****hza@gmail.com 426.46 28.43
5****110@163.com 424.38 28.29
d****3@126.com 369.85 24.66
8****3830@qq.com 362.77 24.18
8****965@qq.com 340.59 22.71
2****6763@qq.com 330.22 22.01
a****irahayusukmana5@gmail.com 329.72 21.98
4****0974@qq.com 318.46 21.23
p****ieunuong37560@gmail.com 312.02 20.80
t****ieppy@gmail.com 305.60 20.37
8****2519@qq.com 304.81 20.32
3****5058@qq.com 301.92 20.13
n****nxuanhuong92754@gmail.com 300.22 20.01
d****6218@gmail.com 283.81 18.92
d****thaomy63152@gmail.com 270.08 18.01
9****3659@qq.com 268.65 17.91
b****usadco@gmail.com 265.80 17.72
3****0519@qq.com 263.10 17.54
7****7601@qq.com 262.61 17.51
n****ngonbong@yahoo.com 259.71 17.31
v****7207@gmail.com 231.58 15.44
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MXC listing BTS and deposit & trading competition summary
MXC上线BTS以及充值交易大赛总结


2月14日(UTC+8)20:00 BTS开启充值,22:00开启BTS/USDT交易,并在2月14日20:00(UTC+8)-2月18日20:00(UTC+8)举行充值及交易大赛,活动期间,1900多万BTS充值到抹茶交易所
14th Feb. (UTC+8), MXC opened BTS deposit function at 20:00 and BTS/USDT trade group at 22:00,   MXC held the BTS deposit& trading competition from 20:00 14th Feb. (UTC+8) to 20:00 18th Feb. (UTC+8)
During the activity, more than 19,000,000 BTS deposited in MXC exchange.


the following is the details
以下是细节:

宣发/Promotion



BitShares News:https://news.bitshares.org/mxc-exchange-lists-bts-core-token/
抹茶公告/MXC public announcement:https://mxc-exchange.zendesk.com/hc/zh-cn/articles/360039754751
币世界快讯:https://www.bishijie.com/kuaixun/556142.html
小猫/xiaomao:http://www.xiaomaojia.com/bulletin/13730.html
区块链信息网:https://www.2009.pro/news/show-13327.html
币乎/bihu:https://bihu.com/article/1249777366
力场/lichang:https://lichang.io/articleDetail/1284514
DposClub: https://dpos.club/t/topic/668/37
微博/Weibo:https://m.weibo.cn/5832318584/4471997390327397


MXC平台奖励发放/ reward of BTS deposit& trading competiton :https://mxc-exchange.zendesk.com/hc/zh-cn/articles/360040060791

Finance/财务

Total vested worker balance/worker总解冻余额:635,471.5 BTS
Cost/花费:618,000 BTS
Burned/销毁:17,471.5 BTS

Cost/花费
1.MXC/抹茶 600,000BTS
2.Technical support/技术支持:abit 1200bts/xiaoxia 1200bts/wenzhe 1200bts
3.Monitoring the usage of fee reward/监督资金发放: cn-vote 3600BTS
4.business contact、 forum posting and worker writing reward& promotion
商务接洽、论坛发帖以及worker撰写奖励& 宣发
GBAC 10800bts

转账记录/transition record: https://bts.ai/details/account/gbac
« Last Edit: February 25, 2020, 04:55:36 am by GBAC »

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Most recent 4 HOUR Candle at each "top exchange" where BTS is traded

MXC
65 MILLION
Sustained 4H candle volume of 10M since BTS was added!


HITBTC
800 THOUSAND


BINANCE
800 THOUSAND


HUOBI
350 THOUSAND


POLONIEX
60 THOUSAND


BITTREX
15 THOUSAND



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MXC exchange list BTS/抹茶交易所上线BTS
worker(ID: 1.14.247)审计报告

1.worker参与人员
运营:GBAC团队,负责商务接洽,worker撰写发起,论坛发帖,媒体宣传等工作。
技术:abit、小夏、吕文哲等社区成员,负责协助抹茶交易所上线BTS技术对接,解决技术问题。
监督:CN-VOTE,负责为worker通过提供投票支持,监督worker资金使用和worker完成情况。
2.worker完成情况
2月初至2月14日,与抹茶交易所对接上线bts技术问题。
2月6日gbac完成worker撰写,发起worker提案。
2月6日至2月14日,公会与gbac积极协调中外社区,确保worker通过。
2月13日抹茶交易所发布MXC平台上线BitShares(BTS)并举行充值&交易大赛的公告公布上线及充值和交易活动方案。
2月14日20时,抹茶交易所开放冲提,2月14日22时,开始交易。
2月13日-14日,GBAC联合抹茶交易所通过币世界、火星财经、金色财经、鸵鸟区块链等币圈媒体快讯进行宣传发布,同时通过微信、官方微博进行互动式宣传。Gbac还在比特股中文社区和英文社区分别发贴,及时与社区成员讨论worker详情,发布工作进展。
3.worker资金申领和使用情况
Worker总预算为618000BTS,其中600000BTS作为抹茶充值和交易活动经费,18000BTS为worker托管和执行经费,费用分配为:
20%(18000*20%=3600BTS) Cn-Vote监督费用使用情况奖励,并在论坛回复审计报告
20%(18000*20%=3600BTS) abit/小夏/吕文哲 技术支持奖励
30%( 18000*30%=5400BTS) GBAC 商务接洽、论坛发帖以及worker撰写奖励
30%( 18000*30%=5400BTS) GBAC 媒体宣传奖励,需提交媒体宣传总结报告
Gbac(ID:1.2.1090481)账号为托管账号,worker自2月10日通过,至2月15日所需预算拨付完毕。
Gbac于2020-02-13 11:22:57申领已解冻资金 371533.99843 BTS,2020-02-15 10:14:00申领已解冻资金 263937.50000 BTS,合计635471.5BTS。
2020-02-15 10:26:03,gbac经linda-alpha中转,向抹茶交易所充值账号Mxccom转账600000BTS活动经费。
2020-02-15 18:26:30,gbac向cn-vote转账3600BTS。
2020-02-15 18:26    gbac分别向abit、小夏(tangguo330)、吕文哲(vianull)各转账1200BTS,共计3600BTS。
2020-02-15 18:26:54 gbac烧毁多余预算资金共17471.5BTS。
4.结论
整个worker在发起和实施过程中,gbac团队、技术和公会各负其责,积极与抹茶交易所对接,充分与社区互动,及时公布进展,顺利完成上线并开展活动,达到了worker预期目标。
后续抹茶交易所奖励发放情况,gbac和公会将持续跟进及时公布。

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Worker is fully funded.

You can downvote the worker now

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If the scam worker can help the price and develop new users, not spend too much, then it is not a scam worker.

On the one side no one has a problem, to invest some BTS to promote BitShares, but using BTS to promote a scam exchange, makes the whole worker a scam.
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Don't agree anything if you didn't know about it, Mt.Gox is the biggest one before, no one can prove they will not follow Mt.Gox.
You live in your own world and can't accept the truth about this scam worker.
BitShares needs some important development proposals to attract legitimate businesses and not this scam.

My own world is a big world, is real world.

"legitimate businesses"? Please be realistic, when bts have enough high price and enough cash reserve, then we can talk about this seriously.

If the scam worker can help the price and develop new users, not spend too much, then it is not a scam worker.

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Don't agree anything if you didn't know about it, Mt.Gox is the biggest one before, no one can prove they will not follow Mt.Gox.
You live in your own world and can't accept the truth about this scam worker.
BitShares needs some important development proposals to attract legitimate businesses and not this scam. 
Be part of the change and vote for the bitshares-vision proxy!

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If we only focus on these thing, BTS shouldn't list any CEX.
Agreed, except the major ones, like Binance, Kraken or Coinbase!

Don't agree anything if you didn't know about it, Mt.Gox is the biggest one before, no one can prove they will not follow Mt.Gox.

Poloniex and Bittrex is the major ones before, thing becomes fast as we thought.

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If we only focus on these thing, BTS shouldn't list any CEX.
Agreed, except the major ones, like Binance, Kraken or Coinbase!
Be part of the change and vote for the bitshares-vision proxy!

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Concern these can't help anything, every CEX is dirty and more dirty. If we only focus on these thing, BTS shouldn't list any CEX.

We know more about than you  itepresence, we didn't care abou these thing, no need to give one by one picture to show you how to Google, if you think how to grow the new customer, show your action, make a "HONEST" asset didn't have any help, just shit somebody didn't have any help, give your worker less than 60k.

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the weibo accounts related MXC respectively  are MX-MXC抹茶交易所(155K followers) and MXC抹茶(85.5K followers)


Their followers seems to be dead/fake.

2-25 likes per comment with 155k followers ?


I get better results with 2k followers.

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Here are the weibo account followers data of tier 1 exchanges:
huobi's official weibo account 火币网 has 91.8K followers,  OKEX's official weibo account OKEX has 400K followers

the weibo accounts related MXC respectively  are MX-MXC抹茶交易所(155K followers) and MXC抹茶(85.5K followers

Anyway, HOPE u can support this worker

STFU you are SCAMMER.   Weibo account number do not prove shit.


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But how can you prove it's famous and there are much more users?
I saw very few reply in their weibo account, seems not worth 600K BTS.
 
As i said this is just another form of marketing, list or not list in MXC is not important. As the famous and users of MXC is much more than BTS, we did the Market making in BTS DEX, just grow a little users.


As abit and binggo said, we mostly regard this listing MXC as marketing activity, so the fake trade volume is not a problem.

MXC is popular in China, as tier 2 exchange(beside the info given by abit, the best way is to ask blockchain practitioner in China, not judge by the reply of weibo account). BTW, MXC charge 3-5BTC (860-1438K BTS) for marketing fee without listing fee, we already try our best to cut down the budget to  600K BTS. we think it worth to try for 600K BTS budget.

As to there are few reply in weibo account, u can find out even tier 1 exchanges like huobi and OKEX, there are few reply in their weibo account.

Here are the weibo account followers data of tier 1 exchanges:
huobi's official weibo account 火币网 has 91.8K followers,  OKEX's official weibo account OKEX has 400K followers

the weibo accounts related MXC respectively  are MX-MXC抹茶交易所(155K followers) and MXC抹茶(85.5K followers

Anyway, HOPE u can support this worker

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Even BEOS community is against it but the leadership of BEOS being aware of it is supporting it because of a bigger picture which means favour votes back in return.

You hit the nail on the head.

BEOS support of MXC is nothing more than a $20,000 bribe to cnvote using community coffers.

BEOS team and CNVOTE, being the ONLY one's voting for this nonsense are  exposing themselves for the self serving scam cartel, which the real community and individual holders of Bitshares has long since suspected they are.

This is nothing more than exploitation:   An ongoing 51% plutocracy attack.   The rich voting to make themselves richer by inflating the monetary supply to send themselves more shares.
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@alt 猴哥,希望请给BTS 个机会。gbac和公会真的在努力为推动BTS做事,上线抹茶对bts宣传引流效果不言而喻,并不只是开发才是高尚的正确的,bts需要更多的关注,而此时抹茶交易所能够完成这样的任务。60万BTS的活动费用比起以前动不动几百万上千万BTS的worker提案来说,真的性价比到了极致。电报和论坛上,中文用户是弱势群体,但是你不能片面的相信thule等人的一面之词,抹茶交易所和中国社区不该被如此的妖魔化。猴哥,从你微博内容看,你是很明事理,三观正直的人,那也请你给中国社区这次机会,帮助提案顺利完成。不胜感激!


There is no support for it beside from cn-vote.Even BEOS community is against it but the leadership of BEOS being aware of it is supporting it because of a "bigger picture" which means favour votes back in return.
I always denied favour votes.
Since you are a high ranked member in CN-Vote maybe you can explain to me why exectly did cn-vote voted evangelist and liondani into committee when both are inactive,not participating,voting or approving anything?
So what was the goal of CN-Vote to vote these people into committee ?
You are aware you nearly kicked out on of the few active and solid committee members like BHUZ if alt and me wouldn't have hold him up and downvoted Bunkerchainlabs.
At the same day i got contacted by chinese cn-vote members asking why i downvoted Bunkerchainlabs.

You are aware that committee by CN-Vote actions would be in full control by CN-Vote and BEOS at that time with no neutral committee members to have a balance ?

Same goes for witnesses.
Terradac and liondani are witnesses where big active supporters of bitshares are voted out because of the lack of cn-vote support.
I always thought and read by cn-vote members that being a witness is a privelage to big supporters of bitshares.
May you show me where terradac and liondani are big supporters of bitshares which deserve more to be a witness like other people.

Refund400k worker was voted in because CN-Vote claimed workers are ineffective which i agreed with but i doubt that this worker is anything more effective like the other who have been all terminated.I would even say its result will/would be worse.

Here a reminder for CN-Vote who they support

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=31921.msg341011;topicseen#msg341011

Being upset about their actions but supporting them as committee and witness (because of vote favours ?) ?


Worst part Michael from BEOS even admitting to his own community that he knows that this exchange is a shitty one ,so what is he going to get from it for supporting in his own opinion a shitty exchange ?
« Last Edit: February 12, 2020, 03:22:16 pm by Thul3 »

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中文用户是弱势群体
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抹茶交易所和中国社区不该被如此的妖魔化。
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三观正直的人,那也请你给中国社区这次机会,帮助提案顺利完成。不胜感激!

如此明显的恶意是可耻的。 使用“华人社区”一词来推广您的计划,您应该为自己感到羞耻。 这表明绝对没有荣誉将“华人社区”一词与您的明显恶意联系起来。 这是一种针对自身利益的简单明了的骗局。 不要将您的同伴与之联系在一起。

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@alt 猴哥,希望请给BTS 个机会。gbac和公会真的在努力为推动BTS做事,上线抹茶对bts宣传引流效果不言而喻,并不只是开发才是高尚的正确的,bts需要更多的关注,而此时抹茶交易所能够完成这样的任务。60万BTS的活动费用比起以前动不动几百万上千万BTS的worker提案来说,真的性价比到了极致。电报和论坛上,中文用户是弱势群体,但是你不能片面的相信thule等人的一面之词,抹茶交易所和中国社区不该被如此的妖魔化。猴哥,从你微博内容看,你是很明事理,三观正直的人,那也请你给中国社区这次机会,帮助提案顺利完成。不胜感激!

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According to Caijing, a financial news site:

“53% of MXC’s token projects reached their highest valuation on the first day of trading.

Indeed, more than 53% of the projects lost over 90% of that peak value
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Only very lucky investors—or, perhaps, people who were privy to the dumping schedule—made money.”

https://www.asktraders.com/news/bitcoin-may-have-gained-from-chinas-crackdown-on-fraudulent-exchanges/

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Binance Top Referrers:

coinmarketcap... bittrex... hitbtc... coingecko... hmmm all top crypto industry sites!



MXC Top Referrers... hmmm never heard of them:



...but very interesting that the traffic is perfectly evenly split as if using a:
假网站流量生成器


lets go check out their top referrer and see if we would delete their post from our telegram community channels:



looks like clickbait scams to me... maybe you can try typing some of those other links into  your browser and see where you end up.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2020, 03:20:48 pm by litepresence »

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https://www.leaprate.com/cryptocurrency/blockchain/china-crackdown-on-crypto-exchanges-more-directed-than-reports-revealed/

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It’s pretty well known in the west that China has been hammering crypto exchanges, again, in the worst crackdown since 2017. According to government mouthpiece Xinhua, more than 500 people have been arrested, and more than 300 crypto influencers’ social media accounts have been shuttered.

Sounds as if the government meant business, but the part of the news that never left the mainland was that government officials were not at war with “all” crypto exchanges. Many exchanges were actually immune from attack and have now benefited by the recent crackdown. Exchanges like Huobi, Okex, and even “unassociated” remnants of Binance that had left the country in 2017 were left unscathed.

What then was the Government trying to accomplish? It helps to acknowledge the inference behind

a favorite quote within crypto circles in China:
中国加密界最喜欢的报价:


You are not running
a good ponzi business
if you are not on MXC

你没跑
一个好的庞氏生意
如果您不在MXC上




hmm...

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“the world’s leading assets trading platform.” Though the site is available in different languages and claims to be used by investors in 70 countries, it was believed to be especially popular with Chinese retail investors in the third- and fourth-tier cities, where investors are relatively unsophisticated.

This one exchange has also marketed what have been called “air tokens”, a hint at the true value of what the exchange was selling to its loyal fan base. In several “pump-and-dump” schemes, a series of tokens were heavily touted and sold to a public that gave its trust without even the slightest of due diligence. In one notorious case, the value of the VDS token skyrocketed 5,137% in two months, before crashing to near zero at its peak, when promoters withdrew their support and closed positions for enormous gains.

The press covered this and several other such fraudulent practices, where the exchange deliberately hyped a product, created FOMO, and then dropped the hammer:

"World Leading Crypto Exchange MXC distribution of users"


"Binance distribution of users"
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不过 GBAC 办事有点马虎,我是不太爽的。

比如上个月上线 XT 群交易,教程写的不明不白,10万BTS怎么花掉的也不清楚,只知道花了。

钱花出去有没有响动呢?肯定有。花那么多值不值呢?不好说。
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But how can you prove it's famous and there are much more users?
I saw very few reply in their weibo account, seems not worth 600K BTS.


That's very simple, most of CEX users(especially china) know MXC, but less know BTS DEX, only the old traders know BTS DEX. MXC=17年jubi8.com/yunbi.com大赌场.

Maybe worth 600K BTS or not.
说白了,那里有新韭菜。而很多新韭菜都不知道 BTS 。所以这种宣传是有一定价值的。

话糙理不糙,就是这个理,上不上不不是主要目的,这波宣传与活动是主要目的,当然主要看这波宣传的价值值不值。

抹茶确切说是去年小牛市冒出来头来的交易所, 以上币切合热点敢拉盘而闻名, 从而得以快速发展扩张.
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But how can you prove it's famous and there are much more users?
I saw very few reply in their weibo account, seems not worth 600K BTS.


That's very simple, most of CEX users(especially china) know MXC, but less know BTS DEX, only the old traders know BTS DEX. MXC=17年jubi8.com/yunbi.com大赌场.

Maybe worth 600K BTS or not.
说白了,那里有新韭菜。而很多新韭菜都不知道 BTS 。所以这种宣传是有一定价值的。
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不管怎么说,这个交易所绝对不是默默无闻的,反而在币圈非常高调。

在Google搜“抹茶交易所”能看到2百万条结果(更新一下,带引号搜的话是10万条结果)。当然,不少负面的,比如垃圾币传销盘之类。
顺便说下,搜“比特股”只有45万条结果。

关于抹茶历史,这篇文章可以看看,虽然大概率是软文。
https://www.chainnews.com/articles/561129340285.htm
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But how can you prove it's famous and there are much more users?
I saw very few reply in their weibo account, seems not worth 600K BTS.


That's very simple, most of CEX users(especially china) know MXC, but less know BTS DEX, only the old traders know BTS DEX. MXC=17年jubi8.com/yunbi.com大赌场.

Maybe worth 600K BTS or not, but it looks we didn't much choices of CEX list...
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But how can you prove it's famous and there are much more users?
I saw very few reply in their weibo account, seems not worth 600K BTS.
 
As i said this is just another form of marketing, list or not list in MXC is not important. As the famous and users of MXC is much more than BTS, we did the Market making in BTS DEX, just grow a little users.
I don't mean I need trust MXC, I never trust any CEX sure.
I just want to get more information about it's background, if it worth the payment.
A CEX with a boss of nobody and fake volume and few reply articles seems worthless to me.
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This is not important thing.

Mt.Gox have the boss and the office.

QuadrigaCX have the boss and the office too.

So...

HUOBI,OKEX,Binance didn't have offce.
Gate didn't have office, even you know its boss, can you believe it?
CoinEgg didn't have the office, even didn't know who is its boss.
ZB didn't have office, 徐子敬 is one of its boss, can you believe it?
Poloniex have the office,孙宇晨 is its boss, can you believe it?
So?
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You can't get listed on coinbase or kraken for BTS, because they are not interested in getting paid for listing. They have a legit business, not like this scam.

As some of you said, BTS shouldn't list any CEX except coinbase or kraken, the CEX which list BTS now all have fake volume. and why you so sure coinbase or kraken are not interested in getting paid for listing? how prove it?



This is just a form of rapping the reserve pool to benefit a few insiders. Important BSIPs for development are blocked or ignored.

Who, can you point out clearly?

Rapping the reserve pool? as i said before, burn the reserve pool, no one can rapping the reserve pool anymore.

BTS has six years old, not a baby, its annual revenue should cover its annual expenditure, the reserve pool just like crutches, make bts can't walk normal with two legs.

Everybody thinks their BSIPs were important, just vote can decide.

even nobody knows who is the boss of MXC, where is the office

This is not important thing.

Mt.Gox have the boss and the office.

QuadrigaCX have the boss and the office too.

So...

HUOBI,OKEX,Binance didn't have offce.
Gate didn't have office, even you know its boss, can you believe it?
CoinEgg didn't have the office, even didn't know who is its boss.
ZB didn't have office, 徐子敬 is one of its boss, can you believe it?
Poloniex have the office,孙宇晨 is its boss, can you believe it?

So?

As i said this is just another form of marketing, list or not list in MXC is not important. As the famous and users of MXC is much more than BTS, we did the Market making in BTS DEX, just grow a little users.


Besides, i didn't care about the list of MXC.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2020, 06:37:17 am by binggo »

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You can list BTS in CEX like coinbase what you think no fake or you can do what you think is right to growth the new users.
You can't get listed on coinbase or kraken for BTS, because they are not interested in getting paid for listing. They have a legit business, not like this scam.

This is just another form of marketing, fake or real volume doesn't matter.

This is just a form of rapping the reserve pool to benefit a few insiders. Important BSIPs for development are blocked or ignored.

I will unvote this work tomorrow if there is no more enough reason.

Thank you for reconsider your voting. Other honest proxies can follow.
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Thanks for the infomation.
I did some researches by google/weibo, seems  this exchange is very abnormal, even nobody knows who is the boss of MXC, where is the office.
I will unvote this work tomorrow if there is no more enough reason.

每次出现重大价格变动:
在实际交易中,这会导致音量峰值。

让我们来看看:

Binance音量vs MCX音量

2019年中

真实音量
Binance BTC:USDT
绿色排行榜


假货量
MCX BTC:USDT
底部图表为红色


为什么在MCX的价格变动期间没有交易量激增?

欺诈!


Each time there is a major price movement,
at a REAL exchange... this results in a volume spike.

Lets take a look at Binance Volume vs MCX volume mid 2019

REAL VOLUME
Binance BTC:USDT  top in green


FAKE VOLUME
MCX BTC:USDT bottom in red




also, note the 20 day period in the middle, with nil volume, when their fake-volume wash-trading machine was apparently malfunctioning


I'm not an expert though.

I'm not an expert on coding blockchains, deciphering C++, or even properly versioning my github; there I humbly yield to individuals like yourself.   

When it comes to trading crypto on centralized exchanges however, I do consider myself very well versed... I've been here since mtgox days; I've had my money on dozens of different exchanges since then.  I've learned the hard way by personally losing 10's of thousands of dollars many times over due to various instances of exchange implosion, theft, and scam.  Before then, I had been trading for at least a decade in regulated stock and forex markets.  I also have an educational background in finance and mathematics.  I know price charts very well.

What I see in the image above, and what I hope my purple dots make clear to all others, is most certainly FRAUD.

我在上图中看到的并希望我的紫色圆点清晰可见的,无疑是欺诈。

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@litepresence

What you give is meanless.

You can list BTS in CEX like coinbase what you think no fake or you can do what you think is right to growth the new users.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2020, 02:36:35 am by binggo »

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I've stated in my first reply of this thread that MXC's volume is very fake.

Yes, we know it.

So what?



Dear BitShares Community
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divide 300,000 BTS and 20,000 MX

according to the proportion of trading volume.
according to the proportion of trading volume.
according to the proportion of trading volume.
according to the proportion of trading volume.
according to the proportion of trading volume.
according to the proportion of trading volume.
according to the proportion of trading volume.



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Because the liquidity and real executed trades there are less users than on DEX.
Secondly 300k of BTS is being distributed to fake volume
Third we promote with that money a CEX and not DEX even we have so many demand for these funds for the DEX.

What real volume do you belive BTS will have on MXC after the promotion which would justify a $20k investment ?

A Cost Use Bill


Workers have been closed on bitshares with the argument they are ineffective.
I doubt this one will be more effective

After the promotion, the real volume of BTS in the MXC is not important, we just use the MXC to let the BTS have more exposure and more people know bts in this promotion, if other CEX or platform have the ability, i think we should welcome.

Otherwise, the users of MXC are more than DEX, we didn't have much users now, it is very reality and cruel.
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Because the liquidity and real executed trades there are less users than on DEX.
Secondly 300k of BTS is being distributed to fake volume
Third we promote with that money a CEX and not DEX even we have so many demand for these funds for the DEX.

What real volume do you belive BTS will have on MXC after the promotion which would justify a $20k investment ?

A Cost Use Bill


Workers have been closed on bitshares with the argument they are ineffective.
I doubt this one will be more effective

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This is just another form of marketing, fake or real volume doesn't matter.

Everyone know the volume of MXC Exchange is fake, but MXC Exchange still have more users than DEX and most of CEX, maybe most of you didn't know it but it is more famous than most of CEX in china Area.

Why focus on the the volume is fake or real, it is not the key point, if the CEX is famous enough in some area, list is better than not list.
We should encourage to list more regional exchanges like Southeast Asia, India, the Middle East, Africa...let more people know,trade and know bts, then guide them to use the wallet of bts and come into the world of bts subconsciously.
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Can you please provide a bit more detail for this worker how and when exactly the funds will be used?

they told you right here... maybe I can help translate:

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After activating deposit function, users who deposit 1,000 BTS or above can divide 300,000 BTS and 20,000 MX according to the proportion of net deposition.

translated means:

Since nobody cares about or uses our shitcoin exchange... we'll just make sure that our buddies have the most BTS deposited on day of the 300,000 BTS air drop.   On that day, we'll give away all the worker BTS to our friends.

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After activating trading function, users whose trading volume is 1,000 USDT or above can divide 300,000 BTS and 20,000 MX according to the proportion of trading volume.

translated means:

Our exchange volume is fake, as everyone knows.   Our cronies use bots to fake huge amounts of volume.  No real trader could compete because we grant our close friends zero fee trading for using bots to boost our fake volume.   On the day you give us worker BTS we'll be sure to tell our friends to turn their fake-volume zero-fee bots on overdrive to ensure all the funds are siphoned directly to our cronies.

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fully agree. I think the money will only be used to wash trade BTS and it will probably land in the wallet of OP and this garbage exchange. This is another piggybank attempt

Complaining about CEX volume with wash trading, but financing this with our reserve pool only benefits a few people.
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I've stated in my first reply of this thread that MXC's volume is very fake.

Yes, we know it.

So what?

Since it's not a perfect exchange, we refuse to be listed? Send out lawyers to ask them to stop working on listing BTS?

To be clear, they didn't ask for money to list BTS.

The worker is a joint community effort to promote BitShares to users of that exchange, to let them know us. Although it's not a top exchange, it does have lots of users, especially in China, a small percentage of the population is a lot of people, much more than total population of some countries.

That being said, I don't know how much money is the best for such promotion. I'm not an expert in this. But it doesn't mean it worth nothing. Anyone who have experience please voice.

The total cost of this worker is somewhat affordable. 600K BTS is peanuts in comparison to the huge workers appeared in recent years. We spend 900K every month for block production. Even for the MM contest we've already spent 3M BTS.

IMO anyone working for the platform is good news for us. If you want the top exchanges to list us, please work towards it.

Very well said.

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Biased info is less valuable.

You have 4 institutions in the cryptospace who's claim to fame is the fact that they audit exchange volume... they do this for all exchanges globally... American, Chinese, Russian and all in between.  Its not a matter of racism against chinese companies, its a matter of quantifying raw data.

nomics, comaps, coingecko, and coinmarketcap's liquidity rankings are all in alignment for the most part on the true volume reported by top global exchanges.  Some of these are Chinese, some are US, some otherwise.   MXC is not among the top contenders by a long shot. 

mxc is not in the top 120 at nomics trust ranking
mxc is not in the top 120 at comaps trust ranking
mxc is not in the top 50 at coinmarketcap's liquidity; the bottom of which is less than 200k daily volume
mxc is not in the top 100 at coingecko's trust ranking
mxc is not even considered at hacken.io cyber security ranking

how many independent un-associated auditors does it take to make it clear that fake is fake?

if we're going expend resources on getting listed at exchanges we should be focusing on exchanges who's orderbooks have been AUDITED by sites who's stated purpose is to audit.

We should not be looking at rankings based on "internally reported volume" nor rankings based on "pay to be listed in rankings".

focus on the sites that matter... the one's with real volume:

binance, bittrex, bitfinex, poloniex, kraken, huobi, upbit, hitbtc, coinbase, bitflyer, bithumb, okex, bitstamp, gate.io, kucoin, bitmex, gemini

these, maybe a few others are the only sites matter ^

Almost every other exchange in cryptospace are various shades of bullshit.

All these other bottom tier junk exchanges are just a waste of resources.  They encourage BTS holders to involve themselves with shady institutions.  These shady exchanges ultimately turn out to be scams or go broke, get hacked, and leave BTS holders with nothing to show for their investments.

Under no circumstances should community worker funding go towards exchange listing at an exchange that is not in the top 40 at nomics, coingecko, comaps, and coinmarketcap liquidity rankings.

fully agree. I think the money will only be used to wash trade BTS and it will probably land in the wallet of OP and this garbage exchange. This is another piggybank attempt

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Are there any other offers right now? Doing something is better than doing nothing.
Funding our developers and exchange, instead of getting listed on yet another shitty exchange!

https://mxc-exchange.zendesk.com/hc/en-001/articles/360039230372
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Lot's of users which don't even bring liquidity to their main pairs ?

The result will be the same as biki


Spending $20k for mirrored offers which has no real volume.


What real daily volume do you expect to achieve on mxc for bitshares that would justify to spend $20k on promotion ?

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As I've said, worst case, we're paying some money for promotion. Hard for me to tell whether it worth doing.

Worst case you are spending $20k to promote not our exchange.
Are there any other offers right now? Doing something is better than doing nothing.

That's a crap answer and a farce for everyone who voted for refund400k  or which worker have been closed because of refund400k.

What was the main argument ?Being ineffective ?

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Lot's of users which don't even bring liquidity to their main pairs ?

The result will be the same as biki


Spending $20k for mirrored offers which has no real volume.


What real daily volume do you expect to achieve on mxc for bitshares that would justify to spend $20k on promotion ?

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As I've said, worst case, we're paying some money for promotion. Hard for me to tell whether it worth doing.

Worst case you are spending $20k to promote not our exchange.
Are there any other offers right now? Doing something is better than doing nothing.

That's a crap answer and a farce for everyone who voted for refund400k  or which worker have been closed because of refund400k.

What was the main argument ?Being ineffective ?

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Lot's of users which don't even bring liquidity to their main pairs ?

The result will be the same as biki


Spending $20k for mirrored offers which has no real volume.


What real daily volume do you expect to achieve on mxc for bitshares that would justify to spend $20k on promotion ?

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As I've said, worst case, we're paying some money for promotion. Hard for me to tell whether it worth doing.

Worst case you are spending $20k to promote not our exchange.
Are there any other offers right now? Doing something is better than doing nothing.
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Lot's of users which don't even bring liquidity to their main pairs ?

The result will be the same as biki


Spending $20k for mirrored offers which has no real volume.


What real daily volume do you expect to achieve on mxc for bitshares that would justify to spend $20k on promotion ?

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As I've said, worst case, we're paying some money for promotion. Hard for me to tell whether it worth doing.

Worst case you are spending $20k to promote not our exchange.
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I've stated in my first reply of this thread that MXC's volume is very fake.

Yes, we know it.

So what?

Since it's not a perfect exchange, we refuse to be listed? Send out lawyers to ask them to stop working on listing BTS?

To be clear, they didn't ask for money to list BTS.

The worker is a joint community effort to promote BitShares to users of that exchange, to let them know us. Although it's not a top exchange, it does have lots of users, especially in China, a small percentage of the population is a lot of people, much more than total population of some countries.

That being said, I don't know how much money is the best for such promotion. I'm not an expert in this. But it doesn't mean it worth nothing. Anyone who have experience please voice.

The total cost of this worker is somewhat affordable. 600K BTS is peanuts in comparison to the huge workers appeared in recent years. We spend 900K every month for block production. Even for the MM contest we've already spent 3M BTS.

IMO anyone working for the platform is good news for us. If you want the top exchanges to list us, please work towards it.
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每次出现重大价格变动:
在实际交易中,这会导致音量峰值。

让我们来看看:

Binance音量vs MCX音量

2019年中

真实音量
Binance BTC:USDT
绿色排行榜


假货量
MCX BTC:USDT
底部图表为红色


为什么在MCX的价格变动期间没有交易量激增?

欺诈!


Each time there is a major price movement,
at a REAL exchange... this results in a volume spike.

Lets take a look at Binance Volume vs MCX volume mid 2019

REAL VOLUME
Binance BTC:USDT  top in green


FAKE VOLUME
MCX BTC:USDT bottom in red




also, note the 20 day period in the middle, with nil volume, when their fake-volume wash-trading machine was apparently malfunctioning


I'm not an expert though.

I'm not an expert on coding blockchains, deciphering C++, or even properly versioning my github; there I humbly yield to individuals like yourself.   

When it comes to trading crypto on centralized exchanges however, I do consider myself very well versed... I've been here since mtgox days; I've had my money on dozens of different exchanges since then.  I've learned the hard way by personally losing 10's of thousands of dollars many times over due to various instances of exchange implosion, theft, and scam.  Before then, I had been trading for at least a decade in regulated stock and forex markets.  I also have an educational background in finance and mathematics.  I know price charts very well.

What I see in the image above, and what I hope my purple dots make clear to all others, is most certainly FRAUD.

我在上图中看到的并希望我的紫色圆点清晰可见的,无疑是欺诈。
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Biased info is less valuable.

You have 4 institutions in the cryptospace who's claim to fame is the fact that they audit exchange volume... they do this for all exchanges globally... American, Chinese, Russian and all in between.  Its not a matter of racism against chinese companies, its a matter of quantifying raw data.

nomics, comaps, coingecko, and coinmarketcap's liquidity rankings are all in alignment for the most part on the true volume reported by top global exchanges.  Some of these are Chinese, some are US, some otherwise.   MXC is not among the top contenders by a long shot. 

mxc is not in the top 120 at nomics trust ranking
mxc is not in the top 120 at comaps trust ranking
mxc is not in the top 50 at coinmarketcap's liquidity; the bottom of which is less than 200k daily volume
mxc is not in the top 100 at coingecko's trust ranking
mxc is not even considered at hacken.io cyber security ranking

how many independent un-associated auditors does it take to make it clear that fake is fake?

if we're going expend resources on getting listed at exchanges we should be focusing on exchanges who's orderbooks have been AUDITED by sites who's stated purpose is to audit.

We should not be looking at rankings based on "internally reported volume" nor rankings based on "pay to be listed in rankings".

focus on the sites that matter... the one's with real volume:

binance, bittrex, bitfinex, poloniex, kraken, huobi, upbit, hitbtc, coinbase, bitflyer, bithumb, okex, bitstamp, gate.io, kucoin, bitmex, gemini

these, maybe a few others are the only sites matter ^

Almost every other exchange in cryptospace are various shades of bullshit.

All these other bottom tier junk exchanges are just a waste of resources.  They encourage BTS holders to involve themselves with shady institutions.  These shady exchanges ultimately turn out to be scams or go broke, get hacked, and leave BTS holders with nothing to show for their investments.

Under no circumstances should community worker funding go towards exchange listing at an exchange that is not in the top 40 at nomics, coingecko, comaps, and coinmarketcap liquidity rankings.
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Biki is well-known too. I agree it's another shit exchange though. Let's blame Jademont for getting rewarded for that, as well as the people who decided to reward him.

IMHO our marketing activities around centralized exchanges should be well organized. Being listed is only the first step. Ideally more actions are required after that. I'm not an expert though.

As I've said, worst case, we're paying some money for promotion. Hard for me to tell whether it worth doing.
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Biased info is less valuable.

A fact is, foreign people usually don't know Chinese market or business.

When people saying you have a poor Alexa rank, they don't know Alexa toolbar/plugin doesn't have a good market share in Chinese, so its rank is not that reliable. Comparison between 2 websites in China make some sense though.

An average Chinese traders may don't know coingecko, but may use feixiaohao.com daily.

Average Chinese people don't use Google, Facebook, Twitter, they have Baidu, Wechat, Weibo.

Etc.


Based on feixiaohao.com mxc can be compared to biki.
How much real volume has biki for bitshares ?
Something arround zero ?


On a side note has anybody seen the liquidity of bitcny on biki for which we paid a nice amount of money ?
https://www.biki.com/en_US/trade/BITCNY_USDT

Spending $20k for something like that ?

@abit mxc is more known than rightbtc because rightbtc wasn't created for chinese trader but from middle east.

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Biased info is less valuable.

A fact is, foreign people usually don't know Chinese market or business.

When people saying you have a poor Alexa rank, they don't know Alexa toolbar/plugin doesn't have a good market share in Chinese, so its rank is not that reliable. Comparison between 2 websites in China make some sense though.

An average Chinese traders may don't know coingecko, but may use feixiaohao.com daily.

Average Chinese people don't use Google, Facebook, Twitter, they have Baidu, Wechat, Weibo.

Etc.
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should be noted this is a shitcoin exchange

it is not listed in the coinmarketcap legitmate liquidity rankings here:

https://coinmarketcap.com/rankings/exchanges/liquidity/

not in hacken.io top 100 cyber security ranking; lowest rank is 4.3/10

https://hacken.io/research/researches-and-investigations/top-100-crypto-exchanges-according-to-the-cer-cyber-security-score-css/

ranked 129 in coingecko w/ trust level 3/10

https://www.coingecko.com/en/exchanges?page=2

D trust rating at comaps

https://www.comaps.io/exchange/mxc

Their reported daily volume is 1.8 BILLION USD.  Comaps says real volume is only 6 MILLION USD.

also its being promoted in telegram with this image



which is a clone of the coingecko rankings with the sole exception of MXC being magically ranked 10th instead of 129th.
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Based on my research i'm not going to support it.

There are many red flags like domain was for sale 2 years ago.
https://flippa.com/9365713-mxc-io
Mainly wash trading and no real liquidity
Alexa showing that this website had just a month ago a rank under 900k which is very very bad.Right BTC had already 450k and we all know what bitshares is getting from rightbtc .

In my honest opinion this exchange brings completly no value to bitshares and thats why i won't vote for it.
To be fair, this exchanges does bring some value, since MXC does have some users and is a bit well-known in China, much better than rightbtc.

To compare, there was another similar worker in 2017 to support a contest on Lbank. Nobody traded BTS during most time of the contest, but in the last hours there occurred a wash-trading with 400M or so volume and the money was taken, no follow-up report. Easy money.

By the way, cn-vote has no weight in the authorities of the worker account, I wonder what they can do with the worker funds.

150K BTS each day is also a bit crazy.
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Note:MXC will offer 40,000 MX for BTS listing activity
40k MX coins can be used to buy back BTS for reserve pool ?
Actually the 40k MX will be release by the MXC exchange to traders along with the BTS applied in this worker.
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Based on my research i'm not going to support it.

There are many red flags like domain was for sale 2 years ago.
https://flippa.com/9365713-mxc-io
Mainly wash trading and no real liquidity
Alexa showing that this website had just a month ago a rank under 900k which is very very bad.Right BTC had already 450k and we all know what bitshares is getting from rightbtc .
User experience based on feixiaohao.com very bad.
In my honest opinion this exchange brings completly no value to bitshares and thats why i won't vote for it.

Coingecko and compas also call this exchange a very bad exchange.

I can't justify $20k for a listing which will bring even less result than biki
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This worker has passed, BTS is expected to be listed on the MXC exchange on February 14th, and there will be top-up rewards and trading reward activities!  Thank the community for their joint efforts!  Make BTS great again!  !!

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提案已经通过,中外社区达到空前的团结一致,从明天开始将拨付上线活动经费,2月14日拨付完毕即与抹茶交易所上线活动!让BTS再次伟大!


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Note:MXC will offer 40,000 MX for BTS listing activity
40k MX coins can be used to buy back BTS for reserve pool ?
Be part of the change and vote for the bitshares-vision proxy!

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工会会全程跟踪活动情况

我对公会监管不报任何信心。

btspp 的 worker 的监管报告先来一个?

全凭几个人看到点皮毛信息,然后群里起个哄,就下结论然后放款?
这种做事方式,要是自己开公司,公司早晚倒闭。
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             这种事情,是好事情。给多少钱合适,应该和结果挂钩。比如,60万,可以先给30万,如果后期拉盘明显,价格涨到3毛,那么我可以给你120万!但是如果后期价格没有任何变化,那么我最多只给你30万辛苦费了。

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比特股是最早走上社区治理的区块链项目​。GBAC是从中走出的优秀团队​。

社区项目,生存瓶颈在于:做事能否做全套​。很多人觉得我做事了,其他人服不服无所谓​。事实是,别人​喷出的口水,很快就把做事者淹死了。所以,做事要做全套,不仅自己做,还要邀请监督人​做好监管。

我们希望及早看到Cn-Vote提交的审计报告。​
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别那么急着叫好。

GBAC 搞的上线 XT 群交易花的 10 万值不值还没有定论。钱拿走了,投了个票,教程都没写全,有没人去交易也不知道。

MXC 的交易量作假十分明显。看交易量最大的 BTC/USDT 交易对就可以看出来,我刚才看了几分钟,盘面挂单 买一 9741 卖一 9748 基本不动,成交单不停在刷 9744 。

话说回来,交易所刷量在业内很普遍, MXC 也算是业内知名交易所了,至少 BTC/USDT 盘面深度还可以,花点钱打打广告是可以的,花多少值得斟酌下。

他们拿出4万MX,按市价8毛一个,一共 32000 人民币。我们拿60万BTS,按市价2毛2,约13万?

有人主动做事(比如GBAC)当然是好事,应该支持。做事拿钱也合理。但拿钱还是要理由充分。
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gbac非常了不起,花费了很少的资金就能完成对Bitshares非常有利的工作。你们的工作太棒了,让我想起了希腊会议话费的几百万BTS,那个会议简直就是在浪费和挥霍资金!
gbac is very amazing, it costs very little money to complete the work that is very beneficial to Bitshares. Your work is fantastic, reminding me of the millions of BTS in Greek conference call costs, that conference was a waste of money!

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非常棒的好消息!CN-VOTE将全力支持BTS上线MX交易所,并监督GBAC团队的资金使用和媒体宣传工作!
Great news! CN-VOTE will fully support BTS's launch of the MX Exchange, and supervise the use of funds and media promotion of the GBAC team!

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Budget
600,000 BTS
used as airdrop and other necessary activities to cooperate with market promotion

Can you please provide a bit more detail for this worker how and when exactly the funds will be used?

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Dear BitShares Community

Please vote for us.
Proposal: MXC exchange list BTS/抹茶交易所上线BTS
ID: 1.14.247


MXC will list BTS on 14th Feb.

MXC Will List BitShares (BTS) and Hold Deposit and Trading Competition
https://mxc-exchange.zendesk.com/hc/en-001/articles/360039756691

MXC平台上线BitShares(BTS)并举行充值&交易大赛的公告
https://mxc-exchange.zendesk.com/hc/zh-cn/articles/360039754751


Overview
Recently, the rising of BTS price has attracted many cryptocurrency holders’ attention.  In recent days, MXC, the World’s Leading Digital Assets Trading Platform, got in touch with us and hoped to list BTS in their platform.
Welcome discussion about both MXC listing BTS and budget.


Introduction of MXC Exchange:
MXC Exchange, headquartered in Singapore, is one of the world’s leading digital-asset trading platform. It consists team members from famous fin-tech companies in the world. It is dedicated to exploring blockchain technology and establishing user-oriented communities.
 
MXC Exchange now offers users with spot, margin and futures trading, as well as PoS services, aiming to build a one-stop platform for digital-asset traders all around the globe. It not only has a talented security team, but also established strategic partnership with the top-notch security companies, like KNOWNSEC.COM, SlowMist, to ensure the safety of user’s asset. Besides, it has set up “MXC Investor Protection Fund” to fully protect user’s asset safety.
 
MXC Exchange gained bourgeoning growth in 2019. It took 5% of the world’s digital-asset trading volume. Furthermore, it was awarded with titles of “The Most Popular Trading Platform” and “The Best Trading Platform” of the year of 2019 by the blockchain medias.

Official website:https://www.mxc.io/

Goal
Improve the brand of BitShares

Budget
Total 618,000 BTS

600,000 BTS distribution scheme(Transfer to MXC exchange as market promotion fee, airdrop for deposit and trading users)

After activating deposit function, users who deposit 1,000 BTS or above can divide 300,000 BTS and 20,000 MX according to the proportion of net deposition.

After activating trading function, users whose trading volume is 1,000 USDT or above can divide 300,000 BTS and 20,000 MX according to the proportion of trading volume.

18,000 BTS (i.e. 3% * 600000 BTS as escrow fee) distribution scheme

20% (18000 * 20% = 3600bts )  Cn-Vote, monitoring the usage of fee reward , need to release the audit report in the Forum
20% (18000 * 20% = 3600bts)  abit/xiaoxia/Wenzhe LV,  technical support reward
30% (18000 * 30% = 5400bts)  GBAC, business contact、 forum posting and worker writing reward
30% (18000 * 30% = 5400bts) GBAC, media promotion reward, need to post summary for media promotion

Note:MXC will offer 40,000 MX for BTS listing activity

概述
最近一段时间,BTS价格大幅上涨引发数字货币持有者的关注。近期,全球领先的数字货币交易平台MXC与我们取得联系,希望能在其平台上线BTS。

MXC抹茶交易所介绍:
MXC抹茶是全球领先的数字资产交易平台,2018年4月成立于新加坡,MXC抹茶核心团队成员来自知名科技企业和金融企业,深耕区块链技术社区和传统金融行业,“抹茶”即源于社区用户的昵称。

目前,MXC抹茶成功打造了数字资产一站式交易服务,能够同时向用户提供包括现货、杠杆、合约等交易在内交易服务及POS矿池服务。安全性上,MXC抹茶组建了业界顶尖的技术团队,同时与知道创宇、慢雾科技等多家业内顶尖安全机构展开深度合作,并设立了“MXC投资者保护基金”充分保障用户资产安全。

2019年,MXC抹茶增长迅速,截至2019年底已获得全球数字资产交易市场5%份额。2019年,MXC抹茶也被专业区块链媒体评为年度“最受用户欢迎交易平台”、年度“最佳交易平台”。

官网:https://www.mxc.io/

目标

提高比特股的品牌曝光度

预算
总计61.8万BTS

60万BTS分配方案(转交给MXC交易所配合市场推广对充值和交易BTS的用户进行空投):
开通充值后,充值大于1000BTS的用户,可根据净充值量占比瓜分30万BTS和20000枚MX;
开通交易后,交易额大于1000USDT的用户,可根据交易额占比瓜分30万BTS和20000枚MX。

1.8万BTS(即3%*60万BTS 作为托管费)分配方案
20%(18000*20%=3600BTS) Cn-Vote监督费用使用情况奖励,并在论坛回复审计报告
20%(18000*20%=3600BTS)abit/小夏/吕文哲 技术支持奖励
30%( 18000*30%=5400BTS) GBAC 商务接洽、论坛发帖以及worker撰写奖励
30%( 18000*30%=5400BTS) GBAC 媒体宣传奖励,需提交媒体宣传总结报告

备注:MXC将拿出4万枚MX配合BTS上线活动
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