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Re: Check your expected LottoShares balance for AGS
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2014, 02:02:15 am »
btw, will lottoshares use private key to claim the shares?will FreeTrade consider using the private key signature or other approach?

Check FreeTrade's comment below.

Only thing that hurdles me is that the user needs to create 3 files. Much like signing offline txs with bitcoin using Armory :-)
But ... secure!

Yes, very similar.

Also the process could alternately be handled on a webpage similar to brainwallet so that no software need be installed -

Steps:

1. Enter public key(s) / upload file of public keys to web form
2. Generate unsigned transaction
3. copy/paste unsigned transaction into trusted client (eg PTS client)
4. copy/paste signed transaction back into web form

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Re: Check your expected LottoShares balance for AGS
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2014, 11:20:46 am »
Both the BTC and PTS addresses I checked were fine.

Not a keyhotee  founder, so I do not know about those.

Can we already check if our BTC and DOGE  addresses were among the lucky ones? If ‘yes’ where?
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Re: Check your expected LottoShares balance for AGS
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2014, 07:58:15 pm »
This one looks wrong:

14fXr2UTa17CadcZ911N7TBFqMLpqsfNae:2705.0254332885834

It should be 2708.822177894737 based on information from AngelShares Explorer (had to subtract 154.79850924 AGS donated on June 1st to get 411.74097104 AGS total)

The error is small, but other addresses I checked didn't have discrepancies like this.

The difference is small enough to be ignored, but perhaps whatever caused the error could be significant in another way?

I'm really curious to know how this could happen (I hope I've not worked it out incorrectly).


P.S. As CalabiYau pointed out earlier, the title in Pastebin is, "AGS distribution 31st May 2004" - should be 2014
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Re: Check your expected LottoShares balance for AGS
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2014, 12:03:37 am »
Looking through AGS explorer

I can't find the below addresses:

1BpMQkVhDbeHtxU4oqcdLo3YTPu5GDfEY1

PjsTZ8eijcy9rj87u1KnrQHiBui9cGibkw

PmvbDZAVXtDm7ZWScVPJUpVTUj6q7faJtE

PnYfVMnyGf9RvS8fceoVbmjsVuveNQyR4e

PoK4FrCqQhPv3khU4JJWDgHsFva7Eykcsb

Pq9KxEu5tndeRdzmgAh5MNs3ZSsDAbMeCX

PqBXB5HeZD6RMz5ak4jAuXYN1beQTgRWtd

PqBXB5HeZD6RMz5ak4jAuXYN1beQTgRWtd

PZywDVgBTH4wuWMCJTynFXTigH4aG88PyF

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Re: Check your expected LottoShares balance for AGS
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2014, 12:32:03 am »
Looking through AGS explorer

I can't find the below addresses:



1BpMQkVhDbeHtxU4oqcdLo3YTPu5GDfEY1

This one is only a "related address"  Note http://www1.agsexplorer.com/balances/1BpMQkVhDbeHtxU4oqcdLo3YTPu5GDfEY1  indicates that the ags and bts are for a different address:18naJqEVwSjnY3ojh3WAhLpQkJxDkPqPHc


PjsTZ8eijcy9rj87u1KnrQHiBui9cGibkw
This one was made after the lottoshares snapshot, and so doesn't qualify.

I didn't check the rest as I'd bet they are similar cases. 

I don't like the way AgsExplorer displays these as I was confused by this as well.


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The rest are all in there : http://pastebin.com/u9WKpcAb

PmvbDZAVXtDm7ZWScVPJUpVTUj6q7faJtE
PnYfVMnyGf9RvS8fceoVbmjsVuveNQyR4e
PoK4FrCqQhPv3khU4JJWDgHsFva7Eykcsb
Pq9KxEu5tndeRdzmgAh5MNs3ZSsDAbMeCX
PqBXB5HeZD6RMz5ak4jAuXYN1beQTgRWtd


PZywDVgBTH4wuWMCJTynFXTigH4aG88PyF  is another "related address" where PoYMdd4KUuuZdsuPp8eUGZPTLHM6vLsDrP is the actual qualifying address.
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Re: Check your expected LottoShares balance for AGS
« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2014, 01:36:21 am »
hhhhmmmm...... looking again at all the addresses everything is fine. I don't know what I was looking... ::)

Thanks!!

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Re: Check your expected LottoShares balance for AGS
« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2014, 02:04:22 am »
hhhhmmmm...... looking again at all the addresses everything is fine. I don't know what I was looking... ::)

Thanks!!

Perhaps a lottoshare wallet that your assets are being liquid maybe. :)

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Re: Check your expected LottoShares balance for AGS
« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2014, 03:37:34 pm »
i'm okay with it
Pmp2K9S5t15hTEkrrFk1cfieb2Y2eVR6YG

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Re: Check your expected LottoShares balance for AGS
« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2014, 05:02:27 pm »
I was hoping for a comment on my Reply #17 regarding address 14fXr2UTa17CadcZ911N7TBFqMLpqsfNae
How was the http://pastebin.com/u9WKpcAb created?

I'm just curious as to how the discrepancy could have arisen, and whether there are any ramifications...
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Re: Check your expected LottoShares balance for AGS
« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2014, 05:54:01 pm »
I was hoping for a comment on my Reply #17 regarding address 14fXr2UTa17CadcZ911N7TBFqMLpqsfNae
How was the http://pastebin.com/u9WKpcAb created?

I'm just curious as to how the discrepancy could have arisen, and whether there are any ramifications...

Generated using:
http://bitshares.org/resources/genesis-blocks/

Maybe you can see if the difference is in the generator or postprocessing on freetrade's side.

That discrepancy is very curious indeed, I would expect it to either be totally off or be right on target.

We will definitely be much more rigorous with AGS before any later snapshot. FreeTrade sort of caught us off guard and neither he nor we have time to write a whole new parser for auditing. IMO him honoring AGS at all is "good enough" for now. Bummer you're 3 lottoshares short though =\
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Re: Check your expected LottoShares balance for AGS
« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2014, 08:19:44 pm »
I was hoping for a comment on my Reply #17 regarding address 14fXr2UTa17CadcZ911N7TBFqMLpqsfNae
How was the http://pastebin.com/u9WKpcAb created?

I'm just curious as to how the discrepancy could have arisen, and whether there are any ramifications...

Generated using:
http://bitshares.org/resources/genesis-blocks/

Maybe you can see if the difference is in the generator or postprocessing on freetrade's side.

That discrepancy is very curious indeed, I would expect it to either be totally off or be right on target.

We will definitely be much more rigorous with AGS before any later snapshot. FreeTrade sort of caught us off guard and neither he nor we have time to write a whole new parser for auditing. IMO him honoring AGS at all is "good enough" for now. Bummer you're 3 lottoshares short though =\

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Thanks for your time toast.
The figure produced by the generator differs from the figure I calculated from AGS Explorer (subtracting AGS donation from 1st June).

Assuming I've worked it out right (?) I'm baffled - is there a problem with the generator?

Is this genesis block generator to be used for Bitshares X, does anyone know?

I'm not expecting FreeTrade to spend time on this for LottoShares, but am concerned about a potential flaw somewhere which could affect BitShares stuff going forward.

Does anyone think this is worth looking into (sorry, I wouldn't know where to begin)?
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Re: Check your expected LottoShares balance for AGS
« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2014, 08:29:05 pm »
I was hoping for a comment on my Reply #17 regarding address 14fXr2UTa17CadcZ911N7TBFqMLpqsfNae
How was the http://pastebin.com/u9WKpcAb created?

I'm just curious as to how the discrepancy could have arisen, and whether there are any ramifications...

Generated using:
http://bitshares.org/resources/genesis-blocks/

Maybe you can see if the difference is in the generator or postprocessing on freetrade's side.

That discrepancy is very curious indeed, I would expect it to either be totally off or be right on target.

We will definitely be much more rigorous with AGS before any later snapshot. FreeTrade sort of caught us off guard and neither he nor we have time to write a whole new parser for auditing. IMO him honoring AGS at all is "good enough" for now. Bummer you're 3 lottoshares short though =\

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Thanks for your time toast.
The figure produced by the generator differs from the figure I calculated from AGS Explorer (subtracting AGS donation from 1st June).

Assuming I've worked it out right (?) I'm baffled - is there a problem with the generator?

Is this genesis block generator to be used for Bitshares X, does anyone know?

I'm not expecting FreeTrade to spend time on this for LottoShares, but am concerned about a potential floor somewhere which could affect BitShares stuff going forward.

Does anyone think this is worth looking into (sorry, I wouldn't know where to begin)?

For the X snapshot we checked two independent implementations (I believe they are the ones used for the AGS explorer and the generator) and they matched. So I guess they diverged at some point after.

Obviously we will need a thorough audit of our generation process before we make any more snapshots.
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Re: Check your expected LottoShares balance for AGS
« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2014, 10:25:52 pm »
I was in the midst of donating on May 31 and I think it caught part of that, so the number for my addresses looked odd, but I think only because not all of my donation had gone through yet. I'll call it accurate.

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Re: Check your expected LottoShares balance for AGS
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2014, 01:45:20 pm »
Some clarification please...

If you own PTS when snapshot was made for lotto, that means you will have shares in lotto?  If so, how does one check those shares?

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Re: Check your expected LottoShares balance for AGS
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2014, 01:53:07 pm »
Some clarification please...

If you own PTS when snapshot was made for lotto, that means you will have shares in lotto?  If so, how does one check those shares?

1. Yes.

2. You can start LottoShares client with your ProtoShares wallet.dat in place in the LottoShares directory, and it should import your balances - and it will tell you which random block they mature on.

This random block will change when LottoShares is launched.

If you have a large balance, tranches of 10,000 will mature at different random times, so that they don't all mature on the same block.

Also, you can view balanced to be included here -

https://github.com/FreeTrade/lottoshares/tree/master/release
 

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