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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares would benefit from Tawk.to
« on: November 01, 2015, 09:49:15 pm »
Thanks for the hint   +5%

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General Discussion / Re: If you are a Brownie holder
« on: November 01, 2015, 09:03:56 pm »
anyway

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Tokenly Merchant Ecosystem Worker Proposal
« on: November 01, 2015, 05:55:30 pm »
@ Adam, is it correct that this would bring new users to Bitshares? Then you can make a pofit doing so (bringing new users onto the Bitshares blockchain) with the referral system, see https://bitshares.org/technology/referral-rewards-program/

The referral system has been created in order to make more intellegent marketing decisions. Entrepreneurs that are confident that their service is valuable to customers and brings new users to Bitshares profit big time. It's capitalism: The entrepreneur has to risk his/her own money (invest it).

Voting on worker proposals comes with the difficulty that BTS holders have to asses the profitability of the proposals for BTS so only things that can not be funded via the referral system should be funded with worker proposals. Worker proposal funding is like state or corporatism funding - people risk other people's money - this should be reserved for basic infrastructure that can not be funded via the referrral system.
This one, as I see it would be ideal to be funded via the referral system.

We're not interested in picking sides of what token will or will not be successful, the goal of this integration would be to add Bitshares derived tokens as a compatible option within our commerce systems that already include counterparty.  Our purpose is to pioneer new redeemable and access token based business models and opportunities, which does not require capabilities beyond what we already have.

I personally would like to be able to offer our users a choice of creating and using an expensive/fast token or a cheap/slow token within our wallet and ecosystem. That's what I see with bitshares and counterparty. Right now we just have the slow/cheap model which means we can't go after some use-cases but that's fine because we just picked ones that don't require less than 30 minutes between token ordering and delivery.

I understand what you're saying about that being the purpose of the referral system, but the reality is that if the bitshares blockchain can't provide for this through a worker or a volunteer doesn't decide to implement this themselves it's not going to happen in the near future.   If it's not a fit no worries.
Makes sense what you say. And I am happy to see you being understanding.

The above is just my opinion. I am sure there are others too.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Tokenly Merchant Ecosystem Worker Proposal
« on: November 01, 2015, 05:30:33 pm »
@ Adam, is it correct that this would bring new users to Bitshares? Then you can make a pofit doing so (bringing new users onto the Bitshares blockchain) with the referral system, see https://bitshares.org/technology/referral-rewards-program/

The referral system has been created in order to make more intellegent marketing decisions. Entrepreneurs that are confident that their service is valuable to customers and brings new users to Bitshares profit big time. It's capitalism: The entrepreneur has to risk his/her own money (invest it).

Voting on worker proposals comes with the difficulty that BTS holders have to asses the profitability of the proposals for BTS so only things that can not be funded via the referral system should be funded with worker proposals. Worker proposal funding is like state or corporatism funding - people risk other people's money - this should be reserved for basic infrastructure that can not be funded via the referrral system.

This one, as I see it would be ideal to be funded via the referral system.

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Like the idea  +5%

Imagine the headline: Fastest C++ coder discovered in little Virgina town ;)

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General Discussion / Quantum computing and Bitshares
« on: October 31, 2015, 05:24:20 pm »
This https://medium.com/quantum-bits/how-secure-will-our-data-be-in-the-post-quantum-era-6a7f444ce7d5#.dp6gjc95i and the IOTA brains (http://cointelegraph.com/news/115508/iota-a-blockchain-less-gasp-token-for-the-internet-of-things) say: " Every piece required for a quantum computer to exist has been experimentally demonstrated. It’s now an engineering challenge" (medium blog).

Would we simply replace all quantum cryptography in graphene as soon as evidence shows that the dawn of the quantum computer has arrived? Another guess (tell me please if that is correct): CNX has decided to go the simple and historically prven way of known cryptography and thinks that bigger targets would be hit first giving us time to upgrade.

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IOTA/Tangle is slightly similar, but it builds a single transaction tree in which transactions are confirmed more quickly when they increase convergence between the most significant branches.  Each transaction references at least 2 existing transactions, similar to TAPOS.

IOTA has a token. Also, its POW, and not much like TAPOS at all, since TAPOS references a block not a transaction, and is POS not POW :)

I like IOTA for many reasons, it just needs some refinements :)
How does it compare to all the other micro transaction protocols mentioned in this thread?

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General Discussion / Re: Beyond Bitcoin Worker Proposal Funding (Poll)
« on: October 30, 2015, 03:51:39 pm »
There are endlessly many services that could be build with a worker. The only way to bring intellegent decision making on whether one of these services actually brings value (new customer) to BTS is to fund them via the referral system.
So could this be funded via the referral system too?

Anyway if it is funded via a worker which I wouldnt prefer all profits from that app need to go to BTS holders.

Edit: Even if it couldnt directly be funded with the referral system it could be the basis for something that is.

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General Discussion / Re: BitShares Whitepaper(s)
« on: October 29, 2015, 05:14:11 pm »
Page 6
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The primary risk is individuals are responsible for protecting the cryptographic private keys that sign transactions proving ownership of assets.
The primary risk lies in individuals being responsible for protecting the cryptographic private keys that sign transactions proving ownership of assets.


lies WITH
...if I am not mistaken.
lol three non english natives :)

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I am looking for any and all protocols that do not have a core token.  Any help doing this research would be appreciated.

So far I have Hyperledger and Interledger and perhaps Tao chain.
Here is an overview (page 38): http://www.ofnumbers.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Permissioned-distributed-ledgers.pdf

A more detailed description of the different projects that are part of the oerview: Beginning page 29 of the doc above.

Not mentioned in the overview but has no token as far as I know: http://www.multichain.com/ ;

Projects that may have no token (found nothing about whether tokenless or not)  and are blockchains / distr. ledgers (whereever that boundary is):
chain.com
peernova.com
linq: http://insidebitcoins.com/news/linq-the-new-nasdaq-blockchain-powered-trading-platform/35526
Setl.io

Not directly to your question but possibly helpful too, an article about the value of tokenless blockchains: http://www.multichain.com/blog/2015/07/bitcoin-vs-blockchain-debate/

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Haha this is great! I pm ed you a few google docs you can make use of to craft a presentation...

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General Discussion / Re: IOTA + Bitshares
« on: October 28, 2015, 12:10:27 pm »
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It can strengthen these blockchains' security by providing checkpoints and also act as an oracle for smart contracts.
(quote from your iota website)
This sounds interesting and could be a revenue stream for you because all (I guess) that is needed for launcing betting /prediciton markets and private bitassets (stable crypto currencies) is a price / data feed.
Could you explain how IOTA would work as an oracle?

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General Discussion / Re: Fee Adjustments
« on: October 26, 2015, 10:30:00 am »
An idea:

Higher fees for anonymous (stealth and blinded) transactions.
Reason: It is a "cost" for the network because voting isnt possible when using these tx types.

Thoughts?

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Technical Support / Re: Very Simplified Guidebook(URGENT)
« on: October 22, 2015, 02:34:22 pm »
There is this https://bitshares.org/technology/
What kind of information apart from that would you need?

More technical:  https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,19346.0/topicseen.html

More practical (how to trade in the gui etc): Needs to be done mostly. Be we can collect what is there already here.

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General Discussion / Re: Let's Lower Trading Fee
« on: October 22, 2015, 01:50:37 pm »
The trading fe is about 5 US cents atm which NO trader cares about! Traders have 0.1 % upwards on the volume of their trades (roughly) on centralized exchanges. On the other side these fees can be a substantial income stream to fund development.

Do you pay the fee on centralised exchanges like BTC38/Polo even if your order isn't filled?
I haven't paid attention.
I didnt know that.
Then the question is whether some fee is necessary for any operation to prevent spam.
In total traders still pay a lot less than on centralized exchanges, especially the big volume traders which are most valuable to attract.

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