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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Four new delegates just appeared in the TOP10
« on: October 29, 2014, 10:29:55 am »
It seems that a large stakeholder (probably a set of several stakeholders) decided to put some delegates in the active list



That party seems to have access to roughly 15% of the BTSX stake.

I'd kindly ask for the new delegates to introduce themselves!
Further, I'd recommend to publish feeds for the assets also!

Personally, I hope this is not one of the major exchanges as (IMHO) they are not supposed to vote for anybody using costumers funds!

About your question of whether exchanges are voting, I believe the answer is yes. They definitely have approved several delegates, but I can't say whether they are actively voting, though I suspect yes. Here's an example of a transfer from BTER to my account that shows 11 delegates have been chosen:

http://bitsharesblocks.com/blocks/block?id=602596

I agree. Exchanges should not be voting.  These fund belongs to their customers.   We should make it known to them.

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I'd like to go with a bit stronger commitment towards maintaining PTS neutral. Something like no dilution, no politics, delegates just sign blocks and no other changes unless significant shareholders approval. What III is obliged to do with their stake shouldn't be an issue at that point. We should just have a policy that delegates run vanilla client with no modifications. PTS should be as pure as possible even in DPOS. It should be closer to a currency than to a DAC.

Just my opinion.
I agree .. For me PTS has always been a "investment vehicle" .. not even a currency ..
Personally I don't need DPOS with 10 secs block interval .. I would be satisfied with any POS scheme .. even with 10minutes block time

Many btsx stakeholders would be concerned with this proposal. And understandably so.  Many see PTS as a"investment vehicle" to get into more DACs. And they have already benefited from BTS, Vote, DNS (to be merged into superDac) and MUSIC DAC.  To view PTS as a new currency is going to be a paradigm shift for many.  How would a new PTS currency benefit them?   Why should I3 divest its PTS holding?  How would this benefit or affect the bstx stakeholders?  What is in it for them?

IMHO, without satisfying their needs, it would be a tall order to get their support.

My 0.02 BTS.

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Good question. Traditionally, I measure marketing performance by revenue minus how much I spend on advertising. It's really easy when you can track everything that's going in and out of a funnel... It won't be possible to objectively measure any delegate position. If you're a developer you could have someone like bytemaster determine the code quality and we can all see commits being made on github. Marketing will be considerably more subjective since there is no way to track how much a marketing campaign adds to market cap.

Similarly to seeing a developer post commits, you can see the ad campaigns I launch. I can post the results of any A/B tests I conduct so ALL marketing efforts can benefit from a scientifically provable marketing message.

I agree with this stand.  Most of the marketing activities can be tracked. But at the end of it, it is a mostly subjective decision.  MeTHoDx has consistently shown he has a flair for effective marketing ideas.  You have my support. :)

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我在此呼吁志愿者采取行动,帮助升级和把PTS变成个货币DAC和做为股下降的仪器.

新的比特股超级DAC(BTS)会在某些方面更改,使其更适合于采纳为利基应用 (用户发出的资产交换)
不适合被采用为一项全球性的货币.

超级DAC有以下用不理想作为货币性能:

* 通货膨胀的门槛太低. 通过允许通货膨胀的高达8%永久的协议, 你最终面临的情况是大股东可以“写自己的薪水”. 超级DAC最大的股东是I3.他们将设置自己的工资.这将需要几乎是不可能的金额来完全把投他们出去.任何货币(即使是比特币)可以修改通货膨胀. 所不同的是通货膨胀没有烘入协议中.这将需要一个更大的股权来实现(用硬'fork').

BTS忽视了社区的主要原则之一.这就是稀缺性应该是(几乎)不可被侵犯.

* 超级DAC的第二个弱点是分配.AGS分布已经疏远了一些较比特币纯粹主义者.他们是坚决反对“首次公开募股币”.
我不一定与他们的理念认同.但有多数用户只会投资于那些没有任何开募股, 没有预先矿, 而只有POW分布的币. POW有它的缺陷.我认为POW分布有一个大优势 - 它是"不需要信任","可证明".该开发者并没有“捐献”任何币给为自己.

* 超级DAC的最后弱点是一个合乎"DAC比喻"逻辑的延伸.杀手级应用一直是,永远是货币.

运行DAC就像一个业务会导致更灵活,适应性令牌. 这些好处是以货币的"稳定的类型"换来的.换句话说, 一个成为胜出又普遍的货币将有巨大不同于“数字企业”的属性.

为了打造一个成功的货币DAC ,我们运行我们的“生意”时该把自己目标定位于最好的货币和价值储藏(杀手级应用). 要有好价值储藏,任何币在协议层维护神圣的"货源稀少",将有猛进竞争的优势.
加密空间正在寻找一个有非常适用属性的令牌.BTS应该有一匹马在这场比赛.

未来
那么,价值的分布可能在顶级竞争会导致类似今天的信用卡.有几个币在市场份额得到大部分.
有一长龙的竞争对手对准越来越多的利基应用.币利润这场战斗很可能不会被比特币 (这主要是由于POW的陷阱),
也不会是先进功能的币(NXT). 任何币如要变成个全球的货币,它必须能够吸引政府和严肃的投资者,也必须被视为是
(一)公平分配,(二)缺乏(无通胀), (三)有效 (DPOS)及(四)安全.

如要在这币之上建立任何功能, 千万不可牺牲这四様东西。

为什么建立比特股 Bitshares PTS?

* PTS是现有比特股产品而拥有广泛的支持网络
* 尽管它的所有缺点, POW的方法是当前可用的公平分布.PTS已经有一年以上的100%POW分布.
* DPOS是最好的一致性算法. 它可以在一个纯粹的和不可知论的令牌来尝试.它具有较强的稀缺性和公平分配.
* 我们可以捎带上I3的开发工作.不需要被束缚于企业战略勋的潜在陷阱.
* PTS分布的纯度.其他DAC可用为份额跌落的理想候选.

现在做什么?

* 我们正在组装的技术团队。如果你想参加 (受托人,试验,等).请联系我.
* 品牌甲板,网站和营销材料正在进行。
* 我们需要联系主要交易所和协调一致的努力,以促进我们的信息

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原作者: alphaBar

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General Discussion / Re: Announcement
« on: October 28, 2014, 08:49:35 am »
so effectively you are saying that it could be possible for btsx to live...  and the merge not to happen ? Or letting all dacs in existence? or what ever...  depended of the "elections" ?

Sent from my ALCATEL ONE TOUCH 997D

The announcement is aiming for the effective communication for future events.

The statement says 'btsx'.  Could it be referring to 'bts' (the future DACOS)?

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General Discussion / Re: BitShares the Platform
« on: October 27, 2014, 12:35:48 pm »
http://bitshares.org/bitshares-the-platform/

Cool!  We are the DacOS (borg).  We are the collective.  You will be assimilated.  Resistance is futile.   8)


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KeyID / Re: Lets keep it alive!!!
« on: October 27, 2014, 11:57:01 am »
I was talking to bitcoinerS and I am excited by the progress he made.  KeyID testnet 206 will be available for testing soon.   :)

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KeyID / Re: KeyID end-of-live. What happens to the KeyID accounts?
« on: October 27, 2014, 11:54:34 am »
This clears up.

I suppose a BTS account can claim from multiple owned ex-keyid accounts?

For PTS/AGS:
you will need to import private keys that held funds during snapshot into a regular account .. as it was done in BTSX originally .. nothing special

For DNS:
you will probably need to import all your *account* keys as *account* keys in BTS as well to redeem the funds .. importing as it was done in PTS will not work due to TITAN.

1) export you account priv key from DNS with "wallet_dump_private_keys accountname"
2) import into BTS while also creating a temporary local account:
   wallet_import_private_key KEY localaccontnameFoobar true

The latter "true" is important here as it creates a new local account with with the corresponding private/pub key as ACCOUNT key! Thus allowing access to TITAN funds :)

Maybe the devs come up with something much simpler as "importing the DNS backup file" ... or so

Thanks for the explanation.  As suggested, I hope the simpler way would be available. 

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我觉得他的英文是好的。他已清楚表达了他的意见。 或者我的英文很差?

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BitShares PTS / Re: no receiving message in PTS wallet
« on: October 27, 2014, 11:15:13 am »
I withdrawed 300 PTS from BTC 38 on 10-24-2014,  it didn't show up  in my receiving PTS wallet,  but after that,  I withdrawed another 100 PTS, it immediately appeared in my PTS wallet with 0 confirmation.
I understand PTS comfirmation is very slow these days. But is it normal  there is no receiving message in my wallet after BTC38 sent PTS to me?
Is there any  reason can cause this kind of situation?

Yes it is extremely slow.  The network difficulty is very high but the number of miners is very small ie network hash is low.  It is expensive to maintain PTS as it is.  I suppose this is one of the reasons why I3 decided to pull the plug.

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KeyID / Re: KeyID end-of-live. What happens to the KeyID accounts?
« on: October 27, 2014, 08:52:53 am »
There will be no merge. Only an airdrop wich results in a greater overall supply for BTS(X).
You will be able to claim your stake but I do not believe you can import your DNS accountnames.
I think so too ..
This will require some certain steps to redeem your airdropped funds ... and we should probably come up with an ELI5 tutorial on how to redeem them ..

This clears up.

I suppose a BTS account can claim from multiple owned ex-keyid accounts?

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KeyID / Re: KeyID end-of-live. What happens to the KeyID accounts?
« on: October 27, 2014, 08:50:46 am »
I'd like to put the key graph onto BTS. There you will have a "keyID" but they will not be actual accounts, just named keys. I could import names from keyID at the snapshot date.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

That would be nice.  +5%

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General Discussion / Re: Marketing Direction - Why not How or What...
« on: October 27, 2014, 08:22:33 am »
Thanks for sharing your vision for bitshares.  I am seeing 'life' in bitshares.  +5%

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General Discussion / Re: I think we need some roadmap
« on: October 27, 2014, 08:04:00 am »
If you haven't found it already:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10608.msg139422#msg139422

Hmm.. that is a rebranding exercise.  A roadmap has specific milestones...

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@Bytemaster, Are you guys just going to hardfork the current BTSX blockchain or launch a brand new BTS genesis blockchain off the snapshot essentially leaving all BTSX worthless after the snapshot?

for BTSX users there will just be a client update .. renaming BTSX to BTS .. all trades .. all bitUSD will just continue to be there .. no major change ..
it's not really a hard "fork" .. more a hard "upgrade"
So the shorts need not be covered, sure? It is very important!
If every short has to be covered before the "airdrop" .. would result in the need for ALL bitUSD to be destroyed .. effectively killing the market ..

conclusion: Having the need to cover shorts will kill bitUSD in short term .. make investors angry and people lose money ..

conclusion2: There will surely be no need to cover your short position!! (due to the "merger"/ transition to the superDAC!)

further supportive indications: BTS will be just a software update to BTSX .. nothing more!
all bitAsset balances will be preseverd .. all open orders will be preserved .. no changes will be made to the market engine (unless bugfixes)

From what you are saying, I presume it is a name change 'btsx' to 'bts'. Is that right?

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