Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.


Messages - bitcrab

Pages: 1 ... 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 [30] 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 ... 129
436
Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Proxy: bitcrab - make the ecosystem grow
« on: August 15, 2019, 03:18:49 pm »
I tried a lot to lobby the community to support to change USD MCR to 1.5, I beg you, I beg OL, I beg BEOS... but everyone rejected to support.
So sad, liquidity makes the difference, but not MCR of 1.6/1.5.

it's relevant, definitely, just as Federal Reserve can adjust the interest rate to influence the USD liquidity.

437
General Discussion / suggestion on new OMO fund
« on: August 15, 2019, 11:11:59 am »
More than 1 year ago, I have suggest a open market operation worker proposal and get it voted up, a fund get BTS from worker proposals has been built and operated for months, unfortunately, in the great bear market the fund experienced big failure, big amount of BTS were sold in low prices comparing to bought price due to margin call, the OMO failed to play the role of market stabilizer.

In early this year, I also have suggested to restart the OMO fund but get little support, However, currently, I feel even more necessary to restart the OMO operation, I understand that the failure in previous OMO will make me difficult to get sufficient support on doing so, anyway, I'd like to start a serious discussion on the possibility of restarting the OMO fund and reach consensus on the key setting of the new OMO fund, it's OK for me to be excluded out of the operation team. the important thing is to make the new OMO work well and can really help the ecosystem to grow.

why we need the New OMO fund? what's the mission of the New OMO fund?

In China in the past months, we can feel that investors kept on leaving BTS, as BTS behaved bad in market.

China community has suggested to repurchase and burn BTS, this process is ongoing, this reflected how eager the community want BTS price to go up, however, I don't think it's a good idea to burn the bought BTS, why don't we manage a debt position with the bought BTS and supply more smartcoin to the market?

Why don't we show to public that it's possible to manage a debt position well, especially with continuous income?

Recently cn-vote took an action to vote refund400k, this action make several big workers voted down and lose the income, either this action is good or bad, I understand why there is always high voice in China community to cancel some workers, BTS ecosystem is so weak at this moment and the selling pressure from workers always play a big role in pressing down the BTS price, we need to find ways to make BTS ecosystem more robust. 

Comparing to burning BTS, another way to support the ecosystem is to put more BTS into debt position and release more smartcoins to the public.


what shall we learn from previous OMO fund?

I admit that as the key organizer of the previous OMO fund I have some unfeasible idea at that moment, I have hoped that OMO can provide a strong sustain to BTS price, but the market told that no one can counter with extreme market trend, even you have hundreds of millions of BTS.

another key factor is that, at that moment, smartcoin rules is not robust enough to resist shorting attack. that's why I tried my best to push GS protection and MSSR&MCR reduction after the disaster.

now smartcoin is more rubust than before to resist shorting attack, although the GS protection still depend on witnesses' work.

what a strategy is suitable?

the fund will manage debt positions and focus on BTS/smartcoin trading.

at this moment, the fund need to focus on BTS/bitUSD trading.

two price are defined to differenciate the current market status.

price A: BTS is underestimated if price<A
price B: BTS is overestimated   if price>B

1.the debt position margin call price should be always less than GS price, otherwise, the incoming fund can only be used to increase the CR.
2.margin call price should always < A.
3.while price < A, it's not allowed to sell BTS.
4.while price > B, it's not allowed to buy BTS.

to get A & B at this moment.

first suppose that 0.2175CNY is the long term bottom price.

for underestimated price I'd like to define like this:

0.2175*MCR = 0.348 CNY.
in USD, it should be 0.0455USD

which means, if the price is underestimated, if you borrow with setting your margin call price < GS price, you have no worry for margin calling.

top price in the last 9 months is 0.5377CNY

overestimated price = 0.5377/1.05 = 0.512CNY, or 0.073USD.

A=0.0455USD, B=0.073USD

A&B can be adjusted in long run.

how to organize the operation team? will the operation team be paid?

I suggest to operate with a 2/3 or 3/5 multisig account, the members should be the ones who are trusted by the committee.

every quarter the fund will be calculated net worth based on BTS. 50% of the profit will be paid to the operation team.


threads of previous OMO fund:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=26072.0
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=26107.0
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=27790.0

relevant threads:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=27835.0
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28706.0

438
General Discussion / Re: Thoughts on new OMO fund
« on: August 15, 2019, 06:50:57 am »
Where does the initial fund come from?

I feel the accumulated BTS and accumulated smartcoin fee in committee-account can be used.

I don't think it's good to get BTS via worker proposal, but I feel we can keep the possibility open, to get BTS via a worker proposal need another independent voting.

how to organize the operation team? will the operators be paid? and how?

A mulitsig account will be built to operate the fund, either 2/3 or 3/5 multisig is OK.

members who want to do this job and are also trusted by the community can join.

the fund will be calculated BTS based net value every quarter, if net value increase >0, then 50% of the net value will be paid to the operation team, otherwise there will be no payment.






439
Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Proxy: bitcrab - make the ecosystem grow
« on: August 15, 2019, 02:46:18 am »
@xeroc
Our reserve pool is limited, inflation needs to be around 0%.
We had that between 2015 and 2017, look where it brought us ..
Look what changed after voters started spending money for good.

I don't necessarily say we should through out money easily, but a 3% inflation rate is really really low compared to other cryptocurrencies which even raised millions through an ICO.
If you can find devs that work for free, great, bring them on!

In China investors keep on leaving BTS.

I even received death threat before the DEVCON in Shanghai, because someone invested a lot in BTS after one of my public speech but lost so much.

I am not saying this threat is reasonable or I fear of that, but we need to care the investors' experience.

generally speaking, our people care too much on getting money via worker proposal, but care so little on how to make the ecosystem healthy and sustain the BTS price.

one reason of the bad BTS price is the bad bitUSD status, in current status, bitUSD holders can just wait and buy as much BTS as they want after a big falling down of price.

we need to incentivize bitUSD minting and make the margin call orders disappear ASAP.

I tried a lot to lobby the community to support to change USD MCR to 1.5, I beg you, I beg OL, I beg BEOS... but everyone rejected to support.

Why? Why? Why? you guys do not want to see a healthy bitUSD? you guys just enjoy selling BTS from worker proposals without caring how can we make the BTS price sustainable?

if BTS price fall to 0, no worker will make sense.

440
Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Proxy: bitcrab - make the ecosystem grow
« on: August 15, 2019, 02:18:39 am »
From my side this is not a permanent action, perhaps it will last at least several weeks.

Without certainty regarding funding for the 201907-uccs-research-project worker, I will soon be forced to move the PhD student to a different project and cease our development of simulations and analysis for BitShares. It costs approximately $37k-$40k to support the student for one year (this does not include travel funding and any funds for myself), but the worker so far has only collected about $15k.

What are your requirements for reversing your votes for the research project and the refund worker? I'd be very happy to provide more information about my research project to help change your mind (and the minds of the cn-vote team).

I voted this worker, but I am not sure cn-vote can support it, BTS just experienced a price falling down, which make things even worse.

441
Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Proxy: bitcrab - make the ecosystem grow
« on: August 13, 2019, 02:33:31 pm »
it's time to control the inflation of BTS.
Do you guys actually know the inflation (percentage wise) of BitShares?
anything hard to understand?

442
General Discussion / Re: Thoughts on new OMO fund
« on: August 13, 2019, 07:40:41 am »
Quote
While BTS price is underevaluated, borrow smartcoin and buy more BTS.
While BTS price is overevaluated, sell BTS to close the debt positions.
Could you define that please what exectly eans undervaluated and overevaluated ?

first suppose that 0.2175CNY is the long term bottom price.

for undervaluated price I'd like to define like this:

0.2175*MCR = 0.348 CNY, or 0.05 USD

which means, if the price is undervaluted, if you borrow with setting your margin call price < GS price, you have no worry for margin calling.

top price in the last 9 months is 0.5377CNY

overvaluated price = 0.5377/1.05 = 0.512CNY, or 0.073USD.


443
Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Proxy: bitcrab - make the ecosystem grow
« on: August 13, 2019, 06:20:52 am »
bitshares.org will be voted up one hour later.

444
Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Proxy: bitcrab - make the ecosystem grow
« on: August 13, 2019, 06:09:16 am »
From my side this is not a permanent action, perhaps it will last at least several weeks.

I'd like to support good projects, but actually we need to review the workers and control the budget, especially in bear market, for long time the inflation from workers is too high and out of control, if we continue to let things be like this, I don't think BTS has a good future.

another point is that the action is mainly done by cn-vote, which is a multisig proxy in China community, all the votings  are decided by themselves.

sorry for the inconvenience.

445
Stakeholder Proposals / Re: New BSIP - Margin call fee
« on: August 12, 2019, 11:08:43 am »
not reducing MSSR, you should increase MSSR by 0.1%, which means the seller will sell BTS 0.1% cheaper than should be.

just like setting MSSR = 1.1, then charge 9% to margin call order buyers, you can also say you do not charge the seller, but you make the market very different with MSSR=1.01 and no fees.

446
Stakeholder Proposals / Re: New BSIP - Margin call fee
« on: August 12, 2019, 10:56:50 am »
I agree that margin call trading charge the same market fee(with also market fee sharing) as usual trading, disagree to charge additional "penalty fee" to shorters.

If we charge 0.2% margin call fee and reduce MSSR by 0.1% the effective fee is still 0.1%, like the normal market fee. No additional penalty.
I don't see a reason to give the LTM a advantage on the margin call fee and reduce the income on the reserve pool.

difference, your 0.2% solution means the seller paid additional 0.1% fee to issuer.

447
Stakeholder Proposals / Re: New BSIP - Margin call fee
« on: August 12, 2019, 10:33:46 am »
I agree that margin call trading charge the same market fee(with also market fee sharing) as usual trading, disagree to charge additional "penalty fee" to shorters.

448
Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Proxy: bitcrab - make the ecosystem grow
« on: August 12, 2019, 09:15:02 am »
voted refund400K.

it's time to control the inflation of BTS.

449
Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Poll] BSIP59:Reduce MCR of bitUSD to 1.5
« on: August 11, 2019, 09:37:05 am »
What will happen if USD MCR is 1.5?

first, all the below margin called orders will disappear, which will reduce the sell pressure of BTS greatly.





second, as the cost to mint bitUSD is obvious lower than to mint bitCNY, more borrowers will switch from CNY market to USD market, which will activate the USD market.

there is only one question to ask -  is 1.5 safe enough for MCR?

sure, we can see

DAI already adopted a 1.5 MCR for long time.

we already implemented GS protection for bitUSD, and it works well. 

450
General Discussion / Re: Thoughts on new OMO fund
« on: August 11, 2019, 09:17:54 am »
what's the mission of the New OMO fund?

There are proposals to burn BTS in committee-account, that is one action for the community to push up the price of BTS.

But that proposals is not supported by committee members, in my view to burn BTS make little sense, more than 200K BTS are released every day via worker proposals, comparing to this amount the BTS to burn is too few.

Comparing to just burn the accumulated BTS in committee-account, I believe it's better to put the BTS into the so called New OMO fund.

A debt position will be managed under this fund.

While BTS price is underevaluated, borrow smartcoin and buy more BTS.
While BTS price is overevaluated, sell BTS to close the debt positions.

The fund will show that it's possible to manage a debt position well, especially with continuous income.

Pages: 1 ... 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 [30] 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 ... 129